Hi all . For anyone that has been through the recruitment process , regarding the medical . Is there a full medical conducted (similar to class 1 initial) or is it a case of a basic blood/urine test etc ?

Thank you .

Does anyone have a recommendation on a location where to prepare for the screening on 737? Or anyone looking for a SIM buddy? :)

Assessment details
 

Could you send me some assessment details please. Thank you very much.

I would be very much interested in some assessment details as well. Danke well!!

Hello PH

Sent you a PM, if you have the time. I’d very much like a chat with anyone on the inside or anyone that went through the assessment in 2025😊

I've tried messaging you too but your inbox is full. Write to me please.
If anyone else also would like to share their feedback you're also welcome to write me a DM
Thanks

Just preparing for the AMC phase and I would appreciate any suggestions where to prepare from or any insight how does it actually look. Please if you have any info DM me or answer here so everyone can benefit :)

That is kind of the gist of it. I did not really do any special prep, but I've heard others speak well of Pilot Assessments. You can google them, they have some more info on the assessment structure as well. Not free apparently, but once you have an idea of the type of tests you can probably find some free examples to practice as well.

Good luck!

Not sure if the vacancy for non Dutch speaking applicants was already open again, but it’s open now with a closing date of January 31st.

https://vacancy.klm.com/KLM/job/Schi...ot/1349508657/

the few that got in last year already left.
what a surprise....

A bit offtop.
So what’s exactly about the dutch airlines being so “racist” towards non-dutch crew. I mean what kind of negative behavior and from who? I wouldn’t expect management to hire non-dutch personnel and then treat them wrong just because of that if in the first place they hired them. On the other hand if it’s other crew members then why can’t company do anything?
I simply just don’t know and can’t imagine the situation thus asking for “TLDR”

Do they accept DEC ?

First of all, they opened to foreigners because their internal market cannot satisfy the company internal demand, this is the only reason why they hire non-dutch speaking. Not because they are open minded and welcoming people.
The discrimination starts with mandating the use of their language and customs(this is way too long to explain), I used the word "mandating" for a reason, you either comply or you become an outcast.
Discrimination and blatant racism is also during the training where they insult you on your first day by covering insults in dutch while talking in English.
Training captains have the least interest in training you, if I were not already trained on the 737(which was not a requirement to apply) I would have really struggled. They are the first to want an all dutch speaking crew, it makes their lives easier.
Your training will get delayed times and times again, because it is a highly unionized airline and there is no direct consequence in calling sick many times for the trainers, and they perfectly know you cannot survive on a training salary.
On the day to day on the line you will experience all sort of things, from direct insults to different ways to keep you out of the group like going to have a coffee before departure but you are not invited, cabin crew brings 5 pieces of chocolate and strangely you are the sixth
XD
Things happen on the line, guess whose fault is that? of course the foreign speaking pilot.
One day you stand up to the bully, you write an email to the chief pilot and explain everything and then you realize that he is part of the problem.
I never ever experienced these behaviors anywhere else, never.

Well, didn’t expect it to be THAT serious. Seems like huge moves needed to change that culture (if even possible). Good luck then with hiring to cover 85 aircraft on order, retirements, attrition and leaves especially if they already face “problems”

Funny. I spent 17 wonderful years at Transavia. I NEVER experienced anything like what you are talking about. If fact, my experience was exactly the opposite.

Would I do it again? In a heart beat.

Just note that dan.cat3c has not worked for KLM, and seems to have a bit of a chip on his shoulder with regards to Dutch people, taking any opportunity to talk **** about them. I'm sure he has had a bad experience. But so far, every time he has posted his experience, others have posted that their experience was nothing like that and more like the opposite. Maybe he should stick to commenting on Transavia threads.

It will likely still take a bit of an adjustment from both the Dutch crew and foreigners joining to all get along smoothly. Crews that have for a very long time rarely needed to speak anything but Dutch in the cockpit and on night stops will likely need to get used to speaking English every now and then. But I have no doubt it will work out from what I have experienced thus far in KLM.

Welcome back to our troll! Same guy (m/f/x) posting under multiple accounts to kickstart some drivel “discussion”

Please see other posts earlier in this thread and observe the same pattern.

I thought I wrote that I was referring specifically to my time in HV, I see that 2 sentences are missing... my trolling skills are very bad!
Not sure about now but at that time we were coming across the KLM crew at a regular basis, at security, at the gate, when flying back home after duty etc.
Listen this is my experience, you cannot erase it. I suffered a lot there, my family too.
Not everyone is made for this openness, its just a reality. There are still some nice people that are open to different nationalities, cultures and colors.
I remember when some of you said that the Dutch language helps with CRM with the crew and passengers.
Can anyone explain why than the KLM cargo first officer position requires to know/learn dutch? No pax, No crew apart from the pilots and the loadM.
I only worked few years for a cargo operator and I remember when flying out of AMS the loadcontrollers, loadmasters etc spoke perfect English.
Always the same, deny everything, make counter accusations.

Dan whilst I never worked with KLM I did fly with quite a few Dutch; my only trip request in my whole career was with a Dutch skipper and I had a couple of other good colleagues; there were more than enough mean, racist and unpleasant ones.
The last one I came across was an ex DC10 skipper in my gliding club who tried to sell me his motor glider without telling me that there was a serious engine ignition fault that could have killed me. A real user whom I did lots of favours for when he decided to move to france. I had another dutch colleague who was extremely mean - he was executed and his body dumped in a canal in Amsterdam.
I worked for the best paid European carrier..my wife left the country after a little more than two years because of the racism.
After 13 years in the company I got my command and caught a blond, blue eyed station manager thieving from the aircraft which she had delayed because of her laziness; I asked for her name after I bollocked her but didn’t put a report in- she did which was a pack of lives which my chief pilot believed. For various reasons this hampered how I could perform my job and in the end in spite of taking 20 years overall to get a command I told the chief pilot that unless he believed me I would go back into the right hand seat.
That sorted it out BUT I was constantly being downgraded on staff travel flights by her mates.
Tip of the iceberg including wife not being fed on a 14 hour flight with the CC throwing away a fillet in front of her..Layovers with all the crew bar me on Christian name terms with captain. Loosing the equivalent on fifty grand on Passover pay and a quarter of a million into my pension fund when I lost my medical.
BUT there were a lot of good people and they’ve been paying me a pension ever since.
Speaking the language helped and imho is a must although many of my foreign entry didn’t both. What was difficult was saying no to the young hostesses who wanted to try a bit of foreign because their countrymen are so boring; got very expensive so some.

Ok. I think this thread has run its course.