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MCT SET 14th December 2021 13:36

Hello guys, just a quick question for anyone who is wizz and knows the situation. Are confair or contracted pilots paid the country multiplier or is just for people with local contracts employed by wizzair directly.

jadrolinija 14th December 2021 15:28


Originally Posted by MCT SET (Post 11155868)
Hello guys, just a quick question for anyone who is wizz and knows the situation. Are confair or contracted pilots paid the country multiplier or is just for people with local contracts employed by wizzair directly.

​​​​​​It's just for local contracts. That's why it's called country multiplier...

Potatos_69 14th December 2021 16:38

one or 2 of the countries confair gets the multiplier, although those countries multi is only 1.1.... Moldova for example

TBSC 15th December 2021 16:12

Investors challenge budget airline Wizz Air over labour rights | Reuters

aviationvictim 15th December 2021 17:45

about f…g time.

Superpilot 16th December 2021 06:34

Wise investors who know and understand that a happy and committed workforce is a company's best asset. Just look to the US. Heavily unionised and still making major profit.

MCT SET 16th December 2021 12:57

My take that the management will hold off and let the investors go. It will send the stock price falling of course and doesn’t make a good start for CEO bonus which is linked to share price. But I believe they will prioritise non unionised labour over share price.

Potatos_69 16th December 2021 14:23


Originally Posted by MCT SET (Post 11156828)
My take that the management will hold off and let the investors go. It will send the stock price falling of course and doesn’t make a good start for CEO bonus which is linked to share price. But I believe they will prioritise non unionised labour over share price.

They will start to lose their workforce once things improve and other options open up...

Wizzair 500 relies on having the staff for 500 acft, pretty sure they currently have 150 something aircraft with crews for maybe 100-110 and the office infrastructure for 50.

TBSC 17th December 2021 13:46


Originally Posted by MCT SET (Post 11156828)
My take that the management will hold off and let the investors go. It will send the stock price falling of course and doesn’t make a good start for CEO bonus which is linked to share price. But I believe they will prioritise non unionised labour over share price.

Bingo .

TBSC 17th December 2021 20:10

Wizz Air says the majority of investors support the company’s strategy (airportal-hu.translate.goog)

Potatos_69 19th December 2021 12:01

a people council that does something? Oh my sides that’s rich…

booze 20th December 2021 03:44

People's Council is a joke. For those with Stockholm syndrome it's a union or so they believe.

Potatos_69 22nd December 2021 11:01

Wizz has somehow managed to get a bunch of the Norwegian slots. so expecting 5 WUK acft in gatwick in summer plus additional inbound routes from WAH.

B77F 22nd December 2021 15:57

Are they really short of pilots? What are the T&C for new FO hires? Do they still offer italian bases to nationals?

FlightDetent 22nd December 2021 22:56

Overstocked with airframes is another way to put it.

Then trying to paint that as a virtue by designing future growth targets for which the current state is a necessity.



Giuff 23rd December 2021 06:57


Originally Posted by B77F (Post 11159693)
Are they really short of pilots? What are the T&C for new FO hires? Do they still offer italian bases to nationals?

Extremely briefly:

1. yes
2. depends on the experience (rating yes/no - hours on type)
3. happened recently, with very experienced new joiners (they already left) but not initially in normal conditions

misteredin2 23rd December 2021 16:48

Hello everybody.
.
I am, like many others, waiting to be invited for an assessment (fATPL, nTR).
.
What I’m about to write here is what my friend has told me. He applied in winter last year and was contacted end of November. He was offered two dates to choose, the latest being two weeks away.
.
The assessment is divided in 4 sections, over the course of 2 days.
.
The first day you start with a theoretical assessment (60 questions in 60 minutes, ATPL general knowledge, general Math, Wizzair info like fleet size orders and so on) on which the pass mark is 70%.
.
After this he had an interview, mostly on Air Law and Operational Procedures (he made examples like “when is an Alternate airport not required”, “what is the distance between runway edge lights”, “what is the minima for a CAT II ILS”) which he found rather difficult.
.
The next day he had a sim session and a psychometric assessment, which he judged pretty easy. The sim consisted of a straight departure, some basic airwork and an approach (MXP, AMS or MAN).
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T&C’s: the type rating is fully sponsored. You have the option to pay for it upfront (14000EUR). Should you decide to not pay for your type you are deducted 400EUR/month for 4 years and they will be earning little money out of it (19200EUR). You will receive 1000EUR per month during ground training. After 4 years of employment you are entitled a Loyalty Bonus of 7000EUR.
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There seems to be a package you can buy on Latestpilotjobs.com where you can prepare for the wizzair assessment.
.
Hope this is useful to all of us.
.
Should anybody have First Hand Experience on this, welcome to add more information.

Whitemonk Returns 25th December 2021 19:04

Just seen an article on Wizzairs exciting new flight from LGW to the Greek Islands departing at 2200 and getting back at 0700.... If you are willing to operate those hours for the pay at Wizzair to be based out of London you are a fool.

Whitemonk Returns 25th December 2021 19:08


Originally Posted by misteredin2 (Post 11160162)
Hello everybody.
.
I am, like many others, waiting to be invited for an assessment (fATPL, nTR).
.
What I’m about to write here is what my friend has told me. He applied in winter last year and was contacted end of November. He was offered two dates to choose, the latest being two weeks away.
.
The assessment is divided in 4 sections, over the course of 2 days.
.
The first day you start with a theoretical assessment (60 questions in 60 minutes, ATPL general knowledge, general Math, Wizzair info like fleet size orders and so on) on which the pass mark is 70%.
.
After this he had an interview, mostly on Air Law and Operational Procedures (he made examples like “when is an Alternate airport not required”, “what is the distance between runway edge lights”, “what is the minima for a CAT II ILS”) which he found rather difficult.
.
The next day he had a sim session and a psychometric assessment, which he judged pretty easy. The sim consisted of a straight departure, some basic airwork and an approach (MXP, AMS or MAN).
.
T&C’s: the type rating is fully sponsored. You have the option to pay for it upfront (14000EUR). Should you decide to not pay for your type you are deducted 400EUR/month for 4 years and they will be earning little money out of it (19200EUR). You will receive 1000EUR per month during ground training. After 4 years of employment you are entitled a Loyalty Bonus of 7000EUR.
.
There seems to be a package you can buy on Latestpilotjobs.com where you can prepare for the wizzair assessment.
.
Hope this is useful to all of us.
.
Should anybody have First Hand Experience on this, welcome to add more information.

What the hell are you talking about they are earning little money out of your TR, 19000 for a course that costs 14000 is a return on investment of over 35%, no wonder you are applying to these idiots

Potatos_69 25th December 2021 19:24


Originally Posted by Whitemonk Returns (Post 11160843)
What the hell are you talking about they are earning little money out of your TR, 19000 for a course that costs 14000 is a return on investment of over 35%, no wonder you are applying to these idiots

I think the correct term is the type rating is a 15000 euro bond, they deduct it at approx 416e per month for 3 years. at the end of the third year you get half back before tax as a payment if you stick it out that long.

Arrowhead 28th December 2021 09:36

CM1 pay?
 
Can anyone already there tell me what the Captain pay is for UK base per month/year, either before/after tax and NICs? Thanks

Vulka 28th December 2021 13:57

Approximately 7500€ the net cost for type!

Potatos_69 28th December 2021 15:53


Originally Posted by Arrowhead (Post 11161598)
Can anyone already there tell me what the Captain pay is for UK base per month/year, either before/after tax and NICs? Thanks

the information is on ppjn

OBK! 28th December 2021 18:08


Originally Posted by Whitemonk Returns (Post 11160841)
Just seen an article on Wizzairs exciting new flight from LGW to the Greek Islands departing at 2200 and getting back at 0700.... If you are willing to operate those hours for the pay at Wizzair to be based out of London you are a fool.

Agreed. I’m waiting out on nights at Asda until I get the perfect flying job offered to me. Fools.

A320LGW 4th January 2022 13:51

I received an email early December to renew my 2021 application in preparation for 2022 hiring. I renewed it last week.

I am a UK citizen with an EASA license, type rated on a turboprop with 200hrs on type.

Any idea if/when they'll start calling people? I got overlooked last year

Banana Joe 4th January 2022 15:51

A friend applied on 30th December and received an invitation yesterday. Assessment in one month's time.

misteredin2 4th January 2022 19:20


Originally Posted by Banana Joe (Post 11165100)
A friend applied on 30th December and received an invitation yesterday. Assessment in one month's time.

what’s his experience?

A320LGW 4th January 2022 20:56

Was this for Wizz UK? I applied to them

Airone2977 5th January 2022 08:31

I've also been invited, several dates available from mid january to end of february.
Applied on december 21 as well.
NTR, but CS25 rated with couples of hundred hours on type.

A320LGW 5th January 2022 08:45

Guess I should have applied sooner :ugh:

Banana Joe 5th January 2022 09:18


Originally Posted by misteredin2 (Post 11165209)
what’s his experience?

Around 1000 hrs on CS-25 type.

apj 5th January 2022 11:31

I applied start December and just got an invite, I'm NTR with 2K hours on piston...

B77F 5th January 2022 12:29

Do they offer italian bases for NTR and low hours on CS25, if they are italian nationals?
If so, what's the average salary for SO/FO to be expected in Italy ? And how many hours per month?

Pegasus17 5th January 2022 14:13

So, given the flight hours mentioned above, it seems like most of the NTR candidates who have been invited to an Assessment Day are individuals who have probably applied for the "FO - NTR - Experienced" opening (correct me if I'm wrong).

Any news regarding the "FO - NTR - Cadet Level" candidates? (i.e. recent flight school graduates, low amount of total flight hours but within their requirements)

Originally applied in October (2021), applied again in December after receiving an email prompting us to update the application for the 2022 recruitment period, but the status still reads "we are currently reviewing all applications".

Giuff 5th January 2022 15:57


Originally Posted by B77F (Post 11165546)
Do they offer italian bases for NTR and low hours on CS25, if they are italian nationals?
If so, what's the average salary for SO/FO to be expected in Italy ? And how many hours per month?

I have replied to you on this before up here.
Anyway, bases are assigned on a random basis. Do expect an eastern Europe base at the beginning.
There are no SO in W6, only FO and SFOs.
Lots of hours in summer, less in winter.
Money varies according to the local contract.

Best of luck to those invited.


B77F 5th January 2022 16:28


Originally Posted by Giuff (Post 11165643)
I have replied to you on this before up here.
Anyway, bases are assigned on a random basis. Do expect an eastern Europe base at the beginning.
There are no SO in W6, only FO and SFOs.
Lots of hours in summer, less in winter.
Money varies according to the local contract.

Best of luck to those invited.

How do you qualify as FO? I have experience on CS25. Am I considered as SO if I am not rated? Thanks

Shugush 5th January 2022 20:35

Guys, what page you gonna use to prepare for Wizz interview?

Giuff 6th January 2022 06:53


Originally Posted by B77F (Post 11165660)
How do you qualify as FO? I have experience on CS25. Am I considered as SO if I am not rated? Thanks

You would be considered Airbus inexperienced FO.
Benchmarks are 0 to 500 to 1500 hrs on type (FO) and over 1500 hrs on type (SFO).
FO and SFO have separate payscales.

Banana Joe 6th January 2022 07:43

Is it 1500 hours on type to qualify as SFO or do previous CS-25 hours count in the grand scheme of things?
I know they factorise hours out of Wizz.

Giuff 6th January 2022 07:54

[QUOTE=Banana Joe;11165996]Is it 1500 hours on type to qualify as SFO or do previous CS-25 hours count in the grand scheme of things?
I know they factorise hours out of Wizz.[/

Total time on multi engine jet >60 tons are counted towards the assignment of the FO/SFO position.
0.8 or 0.7 depending on the type of operations.
Up to 1500 hrs Airbus fbw Company operational limitations stand.


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