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Skopje has Confair.
Nope, Italy not available atm. |
correct, I just missed Chisinau
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Do they still have a no return policy for ex employees?
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yes... but why would you want to come back?
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last pilots rejoin WIZZ were not even offered the option of local contracts. local contract is only offered in Tirana, Skopje, UK and Italy just missed Chisinau |
Nikker
You mean, for instance, an Italian can expect an italian base directly? |
no he means that if they choose to base you in Italy which is highly unlikely they’ll give you a local contract not Confair
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Any news regarding opening in AUH base ?
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I believe anyone based in Italy have local contracts, not only italians.
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Anybody who is at wizz or is well informed please explain the general differences between CONFAIR and local contract. Also what bases are currently on offer and likely to be on offer in the next few months, any chances of a U.K. base?
thanks in advance. |
Sim assessment
Anyone recently in the simulator assessment for captains could give a feedback on what to expect ?
and also who passed the assessment, what are the expected bases for captains ? |
Hi guys,
is Wizz Air still calling for interviews? What about non type rated captains? Thank You! |
Type rating costs
Hello everyone,
Any idea for NTR FOs if you are bonded for a certain amount of years or they request the TR sum in advance like Ryanair? Thank you in advance! |
Is it true now that after the simulator, you have to undergo a very long computer based aptitude test (the likes of which most other companies do BEFORE)?
Second question, are the FO recruitment days completely separate from Captain recruitment days? Thank you |
The aptitude test is indeed in the final stage. People who have recently attended say that it's like 2-3 hours long. Indeed, I wonder why it's not in the beginning, like in most other companies. Aptitude and theory tests usually serve to reduce the number of candidates going to the interview - the part requiring the highest number of man-hours on part of the recruitment team.
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What aptitute test is it? cut-E or something fancier?
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Because these two do not have corporate-grade like HR departments that are too busy showing the rest of the company how invaluable their work is. Keeping busy makes you busy.
Instead, small operators are looking for pilots who arrive on time as much as practicable with a reusable aeroplane and without spreading dangerous habits among the pilot pool. For this, you need a SIM session and an assessor pilot who's seen a bit of the dark side - and done. Makes you wonder what else is there actually to the job that other companies are so keen to discover. The whole of DLR could not prevent the GW tragedy. BTW: a fresh rumour is going around, about WZZ calling the people who turned them down the last autumn and in spring time (say again: pilots refused to join the pink T&Cs), but now offering the original salary packages on a flexible contract. After the second finger is shown some threats are issued (blacklist) but ulitmately another call follows a couple of days later with the contract attached for the standard duty pattern on pre-covid terms. This smells a bit like normality is coming, at last. |
Just so we are on the same page: people are being offered contracts that every single pilot in Wizz has? If so, what's so special about the rumor?
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Oh, perhaps I wasn't. So that we are: Are the new-(re)joiners being all offered pre-COVID pay and duty rosters already?
---- below the line ---- Given the fresh post in the AvEx thread, perhaps I to clarify a bit: The absence of overbearing HR does not automatically make for a nice company. |
FlightDetent
Just like it was mentioned before in this thread. Pre-covid salary since early August, not sure about the rosters. |
Nope. Pre-covid salary back starting next month.
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@Nikker
It was a three-stepped message: i) recall on pandemic pay ii) recall on pre-covid pay but flexi contract (non-commutable, like 3 fixed off days / month) iii) recall on pre-covid pay and standard-pattern contract (commutable), full pre-covid style. I shared a flightdeck once with the person who made it to the third stage by standing his ground (well, simply by counting the chicken himself). Not sure if it is old or recent news, but it is a good one. Not only it means people already have opportunities to decline a bad offer, moreover the company is forced to react which was not granted at all. Trying to see the glass half-full. |
Keep in mind that the roster pattern in Wizzair is not in the contract, it can be altered at any time.
Not like the rest in set in stone, since they unilaterally change whatever they want at all times at their comvenience |
By the looks of it the post-Brexit world will be begging the said workforce to return to the UK to avoid juice shortage at the fuel stations and to have lettuce on the shelves of Tesco. And using the surplus Wizz UK crews and aircraft to help out in Eastern Europe as it already happened in August. It won't work like ordering 30.000 cloned lorry drivers and 60.000 pickers to be delivered to Dover by tomorrow. Either the rules are loosened or the comedy going on now will stay for long.
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Yes, you can take the piss and it's perfectly valid but not related to the above.
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None taken (as it wasn't rocket science to predict that this will happen) but it's still a fact: either they let them back or those problems will persist. Which option you think they will choose? And if they let them back then the WUK crew can be threatened again with the (even) cheap(er) workforce.
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What position were you applying for? Were all 40 candidates one rank or a mix of Captains and FO?
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I think WIZZAIR need to understand that some of the pilots they fired are working now and need time to attend an assessment.
Also it would be nice to know what are the conditions it will be before attending the assessment so the pilot can evaluate if it would be good for him and his family to return or it would be a step back again. |
Very high selectivity now for the pilot recruitment. I guess they take advantage of the crisis to be very picky.
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While they are still wet-leasing aircraft for lack of crew. They need good apples (aka yes-men) that's why they are picky.
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The problem is not being picky, the problem is lack of training capacity to put all those people on line.
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TBSC
They don't care about yes-attitude during the interview, but if you know in detail ATPL especially Air Law. If you hesitate during the face-to-face technical interview you're out. And I don't even talk about the sim, totally random. They are picky because loads of desperate unemployed pilots are available now. Even captains ready to switch back to the right seat. That Airline has grown up too fast and now they believe they are as attractive as legacies. Whenever the former Emirates/Etihad/China/etc guys will move back to their previous Airline and Wizz will be again under lack of crew... |
They are still short of crew, wet-leased aircraft just recently again to cover flights while they still don't use 50-60 of their own aircraft. The way the selection is being done merely shows how clueless they are. That's the reason they got into this mess in the first place.
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I know a few excellent guys of all ranks who failed the WZZ assessment. Some before COVID, others recently. Why was that, I can only guess - but probably more because of the HR part than because of anything having gone sideways on the technical one.
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Any future bases in the U.K. possibly if they are planning for a lot of Wizz U.K. recruitment?
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I applied as an experienced FO, >3000 hours on type. I gave it my best, I was well prepped, perhaps got one tech question wrong in the interview but that was a misunderstanding of the question I realised afterwards. I felt I did better than all my previous assessments (more than 10 of them, having past the last 5 in a row). Yet, I didn't even make it to day 2 with Wizz Air. I know the young pilot recruitment manager guy (Hungarian) reads PPRuNe. I will say one thing to him....don't be so picky, maybe we're not all Wizz Air material but there aren't enough of us to go around. You are destined to have a difficult 2022 because of your attitude.
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They don’t want pilots , they want good apples , and the line between good / bad apples is thin , can change overnight ...
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Seems like its the main de-cider.
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Can someone tell how much they're offering the captain?
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Capt Scribble
Exactly what you can expect when you let the non-tech lot run the show in recruitment. This is not to say that non-technical skills are not important. They are absolutely vital. But there needs to be recognition that, as an airline, you need safe and competent pilots - and some different personalities can be equally safe pilots if taught correctly. The teaching resource is there. Training is of high standard and there are many instructors who have years and years in the company and probably over 10,000 hours on type, owing to the fact that they fly a lot. If being a safe and competent pilot (and you cannot be one without good CRM) is not enough of a reason for one to be employed by an airline in desperate need of pilots, then I don't know what else is. Oh, wait, maybe the results of some computer games labeled as "psychological and personality assessment"? |
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