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Kurt090 20th February 2022 15:48


Originally Posted by Giuff (Post 11186709)
Are you employed at the moment?

Unfortunately, No

Nikker 20th February 2022 16:10


Originally Posted by cbr58 (Post 11186550)
Anyone who might share their infos about Tirana base? Roster, salary, people, living in there? Private message will be fine too. Thanks a lot.

Extremely easy to explain : Worst salary and conditions in the network. Double taxation and one of the lowest salary multipliers. SFO in other bases get same salary as CPT in TIA. Not enough CPTs so 14/7 not always guaranteed. FOs almost always get 14/7.

frankie22 21st February 2022 05:17


Originally Posted by Kurt090 (Post 11186708)
Hi, Pilots. Is there any information about the terms and conditions for Abu-Dhabi? Commuting roster? Salary?
Wizz keep it in secret, but I don’t want to go to Budapest, just to learn that I will get 28 days of annual leave.

2nd hand info, for SFO:

3500-4500 EUR (base+average flying hours)
+ 950 EUR for housing allowance

30 day annual leave
Random roster - no commuting options.

YourFlyingDutchman 23rd February 2022 09:37

Hello everyone,

Saw this yesterday at Wizzair's website while applying.

Important information: Open Days for Flight Crew Candidates in Vilnius, Athens and Malta. Click for more info.
Join us on Open Days in:
22.02 Vilnius Air Inn Hotel 10:00 and 16:00 local time
02.03 Athens Novotel Athens 10:00 and 14:00 local time
04.02 Malta Radisson Blue 10:00 and 14:00 local time


Anybody that went to Vilnius yesterday and wants to share that experience?
Unfortunately there's no link to register, I guess you can just show up?

Thank you in advance!

Potatos_69 23rd February 2022 10:13


Originally Posted by Joe le Taxi (Post 11170096)
Basic salary is irrelevant. Different companies slice it different ways, some more in basic, some more in flying pay. I'm interested in a captains P60 gross, for let's say 800 hours. My calcs were supported by an ex colleague who seemed to have reasonable pay at wizz (albeit several years ago). But no pension? I didn't realise that. And if the fixed roster is no more, then forget it.


Oh lord basic salary matters… You get a month in Wizz doing 1 or 2 flights only and instead of getting your expected payment you will get half or less of what you were expecting…

Wizz isn’t stable roster or flight wise at the moment, come summer you don’t have to care cos you’ll fly max hours, but come another issue you’ll be down to 2-5 flights and having a massive income shift…

If you’re looking at the UK (well the whole network) pension is always at the absolute minimum legal amount required by the country you’re based in…

Depends on region, but WUK atm is a random roster that everyone hates and no one knows when it will change back to fixed. Money is enough to get by on but honestly if any other airline would open up I would imagine every guy under 55 would be looking to switch even if it’s a ‘sideways’ move…

WUK will also have huge problems with CC come summer as maybe 1/4 to 1/3 have start dates with other companies in the coming months… which will effect flight crew incomes as flights are cancelled or handed off to wet leasing companies.

There is a reason why the company has like 1.5 stars on trust pilot and I can’t think of more than a dozen crew who I would consider happy working for the company at the moment… thankful to have a job and fly yes, but ready and looking to bail at first opportunity.

FlightDetent 23rd February 2022 15:38

Just need a place to go, right?

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....23d7cbce9a.jpg


TBSC 24th February 2022 06:44

Four aircraft were on ground in Ukraine when the war started. Hope all the Ukraine-based crew members are OK.

Potatos_69 24th February 2022 13:55


Originally Posted by TBSC (Post 11189231)
Four aircraft were on ground in Ukraine when the war started. Hope all the Ukraine-based crew members are OK.

They're safe but trapped for an unknown period of time as Wizz will want to evac them using the company assets on the ground...

Safety first and this is what you get at Wizz...

SierraTangoBravo 25th February 2022 12:27


Originally Posted by Potatos_69 (Post 11189522)
They're safe but trapped for an unknown period of time as Wizz will want to evac them using the company assets on the ground...

Safety first and this is what you get at Wizz...

This is what you get having russia near your borders.

calypso 26th February 2022 06:20

Safe in a war zone? ah ok

TBSC 26th February 2022 07:50


Originally Posted by calypso (Post 11190691)
Safe in a war zone? ah ok

In fairness Kyiv was not a war zone (yet) when Potatos wrote it.

Potatos_69 27th February 2022 03:19


Originally Posted by TBSC (Post 11190731)
In fairness Kyiv was not a war zone (yet) when Potatos wrote it.

Crew on the ground were telling Management they needed to evac 3-4 hours before the invasion… Crew as usual were ignored.

Management failing employees again and not accepting responsibility.

Wizz could have had the aircraft and crews moved to Poland or Romania or Moldova and operated UKR flights after a short ferry each during this time… But money is more important than crew safety.

booze 1st March 2022 01:30

Guess what, management in BUD looking for "volunteers" to get aircraft out of Ukraine. I hope managers, base captains and JV's other cronies are first in the line to get it done...

Nikker 1st March 2022 07:36


Originally Posted by booze (Post 11192526)
Guess what, management in BUD looking for "volunteers" to get aircraft out of Ukraine. I hope managers, base captains and JV's other cronies are first in the line to get it done...

Here is the best part: they claim that 170 pilots volunteered to do it. Yep. One hundred seventy.

booze 1st March 2022 08:43

They never learn that "do-goodism" leads to nothing in this company. Just look at how many got fired in April 2020 from the volunteers doing the China cargo flights.

TBSC 1st March 2022 13:54

Why on earth would anyone risk their life to "save" a 15 years old, no sharklet, old engine, low value, vintage A320? The planet is full of stored aircraft. Wizz doesn't need the capacity either as currently there are 17 aircraft parked (which did not fly at all in the last 3 weeks per FR24) beyond the ones stuck in Ukraine. LPO/LPY/LWB/LWM/LYI/LYJ/LJA/WUKL/LTA/LTC/LXB/LXG/LXH/LXJ/LXQ/LXV/LXW.
I doubt all of them are under maintenance. Another one is being returned to the lessor, was just painted white last week (LWA). The combined value of the four aircraft is change money compared to the billions Wizz claim to have in cash. Why then? I can't see the point.

ShamrockF 2nd March 2022 09:05


Originally Posted by TBSC (Post 11192820)
Why on earth would anyone risk their life to "save" a 15 years old, no sharklet, old engine, low value, vintage A320? The planet is full of stored aircraft. Wizz doesn't need the capacity either as currently there are 17 aircraft parked (which did not fly at all in the last 3 weeks per FR24) beyond the ones stuck in Ukraine. LPO/LPY/LWB/LWM/LYI/LYJ/LJA/WUKL/LTA/LTC/LXB/LXG/LXH/LXJ/LXQ/LXV/LXW.
I doubt all of them are under maintenance. Another one is being returned to the lessor, was just painted white last week (LWA). The combined value of the four aircraft is change money compared to the billions Wizz claim to have in cash. Why then? I can't see the point.

Wizz didn't get to where they are today by being so careless with their money and resources. Four aircraft are still worth millions, even if they're 15 years old.

TBSC 2nd March 2022 09:55

Yet somehow they are the only foreign operator who have aircraft stuck in a war after weeks of continuous warnings.

TorqueStripe 2nd March 2022 11:57


Originally Posted by TBSC (Post 11193256)
Yet somehow they are the only foreign operator who have aircraft stuck in a war after weeks of continuous warnings.

To be fair though, they are the only foreign operator that had/has bases there as well.
Much easier to cancel flights than to close down bases with local staff.

TBSC 2nd March 2022 12:46


Originally Posted by TorqueStripe (Post 11193311)
To be fair though, they are the only foreign operator that had/has bases there as well.
Much easier to cancel flights than to close down bases with local staff.

It's definitely not an easy decision but there were plenty of signs. Maybe they could have flown their aircraft (or at least some of them) out for the night as they did before Donetsk airport was attacked in 2014. That was a base too and it was shut down before something hit the fan.

A321drvr 3rd March 2022 02:33

My guess would be that they simply try to avoid default on assets due to war exclusion clauses. Whatever it costs, sadly. Wzz is known for not caring about their employees.

likair 3rd March 2022 15:33


Originally Posted by YourFlyingDutchman (Post 11188639)
Hello everyone,

Saw this yesterday at Wizzair's website while applying.

Important information: Open Days for Flight Crew Candidates in Vilnius, Athens and Malta. Click for more info.
Join us on Open Days in:
22.02 Vilnius Air Inn Hotel 10:00 and 16:00 local time
02.03 Athens Novotel Athens 10:00 and 14:00 local time
04.02 Malta Radisson Blue 10:00 and 14:00 local time


Anybody that went to Vilnius yesterday and wants to share that experience?
Unfortunately there's no link to register, I guess you can just show up?

Thank you in advance!

Do you have any feedback?

FlightDetent 3rd March 2022 17:20

Air Inn at VNO,
Raddison Blu at Malta

Classic!

YourFlyingDutchman 4th March 2022 14:10

Hi likair,

I went to Athens and they had two presentations.

The agenda consisted of
  • Company introduction
  • Pay scales
  • Additional Benefits
  • Base and Roster
  • Q&A
At the moment their interest still lies on experienced FOs and CPTs. After summer this will turn to Cadets, most likely..

Magus111 4th March 2022 14:14

Hi all

anyone got an invitation for March (especially cadets)?

santacruz 8th March 2022 03:01

Hi everyone,

any mention of when UK bases might go back to a fixed roster pattern? Any other interesting info from open days?

Shugush 8th March 2022 09:54

anyone has info whether they will cancel interviews due to Ukraine war? I guess their growth project will be hell reduced after all this ....

dirk85 8th March 2022 12:12


Originally Posted by santacruz (Post 11196367)
Hi everyone,

any mention of when UK bases might go back to a fixed roster pattern? Any other interesting info from open days?

They don’t have to, rostern pattern is not even mentioned in the work contract you sign with wizz. It’s a “concession” that can be taken away
at any time, as it happened often in the past, and also now, when short of crews.
Be grateful when you have it, but don’t count on it.

AIMINGHIGH123 8th March 2022 13:02


Originally Posted by Shugush (Post 11196515)
anyone has info whether they will cancel interviews due to Ukraine war? I guess their growth project will be hell reduced after all this ....

I think they are going to be hit pretty hard.

Wizz haven’t hedged any fuel from what I have read!!!
Ryanair hedged about 80% for this year and already hedged for next year.
Predictions on oil going to $200 a barrel by year end. With fuel making up 30% of the bottom line plus Eastern Europe in a mess I think they will struggle. Share price is down nearly 50% from a month ago.

santacruz 9th March 2022 02:59

How bad is the roster right now? Any night flying? Would anyone care to post an example? (Disguised of course)

Nikker 9th March 2022 11:49


Originally Posted by santacruz (Post 11197040)
How bad is the roster right now? Any night flying? Would anyone care to post an example? (Disguised of course)

No reason to post. Each base is so different right now, one could say these are totally different companies.

Giuff 9th March 2022 14:59


Originally Posted by santacruz (Post 11197040)
How bad is the roster right now? Any night flying? Would anyone care to post an example? (Disguised of course)

At my base we have currently something very similar to a 14/7 pattern but its going to disappear soon as we are extremely short of people, both seats

Potatos_69 10th March 2022 09:06

Random... Completely Random... That's our bases rosters...

santacruz 12th March 2022 04:59

OK Thanks guys. I would really like to go back to UK but it doesn't sound like its a good idea to leave another job to go to Wizzair right now, especially with the war. I hope for everyone's sake and the industry that security situation / roster pattern / salary scales improve soon.

A320LGW 16th March 2022 13:30

I have a CS25 type rating with experience on type, currently unemployed. In January I received the 'forwarded as an applicant' email for UK non rated, experienced FO. I have heard nothing since then. On linkedin I am seeing many brand new flight school graduates getting jobs with wizz somehow. Does anyone know how the selection procedures are working right now?

Nikker 17th March 2022 10:10


Originally Posted by A320LGW (Post 11200794)
I have a CS25 type rating with experience on type, currently unemployed. In January I received the 'forwarded as an applicant' email for UK non rated, experienced FO. I have heard nothing since then. On linkedin I am seeing many brand new flight school graduates getting jobs with wizz somehow. Does anyone know how the selection procedures are working right now?

Flight school graduates have 1 significant advantage compared to you: they will not leave the company until they get the hours. You will leave wizz in a few months when better contracts will start appearing.
Also many of these guys are from WAPA and wizz already paid a lot and has no reason to delay these guys.

CW247 17th March 2022 11:00

It's horrible to say that all my friends currently unemployed have one thing in common.... they are older and experienced First Officers. They are watching cadets get jobs whilst they are getting ignored. And it's not only WizzAir doing it.

dirk85 17th March 2022 11:44


Originally Posted by A320LGW (Post 11200794)
I have a CS25 type rating with experience on type, currently unemployed. In January I received the 'forwarded as an applicant' email for UK non rated, experienced FO. I have heard nothing since then. On linkedin I am seeing many brand new flight school graduates getting jobs with wizz somehow. Does anyone know how the selection procedures are working right now?

Attending the open days gives you a much higher chance to get called to the assessment, especially with your profile. Yes, it is not cheap, but it makes you stand out compared to all of those who just sends the application online. It worked for me many years ago.

TS34 17th March 2022 12:03

I'm awaiting a call up to an assessment day now. Any idea of when that might be?

Like others I'm an experienced FO with a current type rating.

Fingers crossed I don't get overlooked for a cadet.

Johnny Tango 18th March 2022 17:10

  • Pay scales WIZZ AIR
During Training (8/10 weeks plus Line training for NTR)

FO 1000 € Gross salary (VAT Swiss 4-5% plus VAT country where you are based base) plus 0,022 Euro per KM (great circle distance) and 12 € every landing of the crew
SFO (1500 Hours) 1100 € Gross salary (VAT Swiss 4-5% plus VAT country where you are based base) plus 0,038 Euro per KM (great circle distance) and 19 € every landing
CPT 3750€. Gross salary (VAT Swiss 4-5% plus VAT country where you are based base) --> NO information
AFTER LINE CHECK
FO 1750 € Gross salary (VAT Swiss 4-5% plus VAT country where you are based base) plus 0,022 Euro per KM (great circle distance) and 12 € every landing of the crew
SFO (1500 Hours) 2166€ Gross salary (VAT Swiss 4-5% plus VAT country where you are based base) plus 0,038 Euro per KM (great circle distance) and 19 € every landing
CPT 3750€. Gross salary (VAT Swiss 4-5% plus VAT country where you are based base) --> NO information


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