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JOE MAXY 11th October 2021 22:15

Has any Capt that was successful in September’s recruitment been offered a base yet?

Giuff 13th October 2021 07:23

Recrutiment will slow a bit now, then restart soon at full scale also for NTR colleagues.
Company running at full training capacity at the moment. Every single hr resource is deployed.
Best of luck to all.

Banana Joe 13th October 2021 10:22

Any timeline as to when the recruitment will restart? Beginning of 2022?

Giuff 13th October 2021 14:41

I would say much before then.
The plan is for 172 airframes in the air by the end of 2022.

JOE MAXY 13th October 2021 16:49

1. Any bond for rated guys?

2. And when you get allocated to a base I presume you are not base frozen ?( unless you requested that base in the 1st place)

Giuff 13th October 2021 18:08

1. No
2. Normally 1 year but anybody can apply for base transfer from line release

Expect great expansion therefore some time at initial base

Toastal 13th October 2021 19:46

Any idea when this mob are going to touch base with the real world and stop trying to recruit NASA Astronauts? It’s amazing how a once bottom feeder loco has risen to the top of the cess pit. They’re delusional with their selection procedure and now have to recruit those they rudely refused via a U.K. Agency (IAGO) just so that they can get bums on seats. The tide will turn next year for flight crew. Wizz UK need to grow a pair and recruit their own staff to crew their aircraft!

Rt Hon Jim Hacker MP 13th October 2021 23:23

The chickens will be coming home to roost in aviation this winter. So many people have retired early or fallen out of love with flying because of their treatment by their employers. Very few youngsters in training. My guess is the pilot headcount in the UK is down by 10-15%. Every part of the economy is suffering a skills shortage and aviation will soon be a part of that. The smart airlines will offer decent money and early start dates for 2022 if they don't want to see their shiny frames parked up. I reckon the likes of Titan will be ready to clean up next year.

Ronipilot 14th October 2021 08:47

Selection process for captains
 
For those who asked about specifics of the assessment, I was recently in one of the DEC events; expect a 33% pass rate.
day 1 company presentation, 60 minutes technical test (multiple choice about a320 systems and EASA regulations) , role-play, and personal interview (only technical questions, systems, weather, scenarios)
day 2 simulator and psychometrics
simulator was intense they have many different scenarios they basically want to see CRM , crew work, following procedures and some hand-flying.

salary back to normal (45k base/year, 0.062/km, 30/landing)
good luck to all.

Giuff 14th October 2021 09:24

Rt Hon Jim Hacker MP

I don't know about UK, for what i see in Europe and ME, there are still thousands of pilots unemployed.
FZ opened positions for 3 days and received tons of applications.
TCs will remain the same for longer in my opinion.
None of my friends in their 50's are retiring.

Airone2977 14th October 2021 09:43

In Europe situation is bad, but definitely better than last year. However, a lot of seasonnal contract are coming to an end nowadays, adding experience crews back to the job market.

JOE MAXY 15th October 2021 13:55

Ronipilot

Did you get a start date or notification of available bases yet?


0VJs 26th October 2021 12:11

Not yet. For all those who passed the assessment as NTR crew, how much time passed between the confirmation of successful assessment and the job offer?

Direct DIKRO 26th October 2021 22:08

Has anyone been allocated a UK base recently?

TBSC 29th October 2021 15:12

Ho hum.
Wizz Air executive sacked after his secret share-dealing is revealed | Business | The Times

Pearlharbour 30th October 2021 21:11

This people are flying 11% more than prepandemic last week with less pilots.

The maths tells me that something is running to the limit. Maybe squeezing their pilots to the limit? And we are in winter.

and they continue playing with assestments, looking for the excellence of their candidates, for me is quite quite clear what is gonna happen from March and ahead. They are not prepared, they have their crews exhausted in low session already, and they are already late training crews for next year. Slow recruitment, slow training... perfect combination to make a disaster soon.

Just look what happened to Southwest of American Airlines today. And we are speaking about good companies that treat and pay pilots with respect.

the pool of unemployed experienced pilots is drying little by little and you cannot run a company just contracting 80% of cadets.

Who knows maybe this strategy it works. But for a company with such wishes of expansion they should be preparing people like crazy and they are just playing with people and nice proffesional pilots. “Today I want you, tomorrow maybe not and the day after I don’t know”.

continue like this Wizzair. Making your reputation a mess in between the pilots community. You are doing everyday better!

TorqueStripe 31st October 2021 09:30

I am assuming that number is the week over week comparison from the Eurocontrol feed. Keep in mind last year daylight savings time ended a week earlier than this year, so that number is comparing winter schedule last year to summer schedule this year.
The only pilots probably flying anywhere near their limits until December will be trainers.

Pearlharbour 31st October 2021 10:20

No, I just double checked.
You can visit the official website and it states clearly the following figures.

29/10/21 ........ 654 flights
vs
29/10/19 ........ 564 flights

11.3% above 2019 levels same week on 2021. With much more less man power. God bless you next pick session...!
I leave you down here the link in case you want to analyze by yourself.

https://www.eurocontrol.int/Economic...ation-AOs.html

Let's say the truth to the people please.

TBSC 31st October 2021 10:23

The occasional positive numbers in those comparison sheets are caused by the very low base (2020). They have 20% more aircraft now to fly (145 today) yet only 70-80 are flying (67 as of this very moment per FR24). They will sweat blood to fly the whole fleet (or even 70-80% of it) come holiday season.

Giuff 31st October 2021 11:13

Pearlharbour

mentioning a disaster in my opinion is not really professional and what we need after the last 2 years in aviation.
Anyways, recruiting department is doing all it takes to get as many as possible onboard; the problem is that there are not enough trainers, even with external aid things run unfortunately slower.
No excellence is looked after during screenings imho, simply reliable and professional people with the right attitude. I am ex ME and i saw former colleagues coming here with the wrong attitude, they all failed. Hopefully they will fly again in the desert soon and i wish them best of luck.
Also, if you are a Captain with XXXXX hours and you cannot decode a taf or don't know a bunch of Lido symbols, well, then you have a problem, not only with Wizz Air.
If you have a level 6 on your license but during the interview you speak clearly like a level 4, again, you have a problem.
There is a false myth going on here; Wizz recruitment is not for astronauts, it is simply for well prepared pilots. If anybody come to Budapest thinking its a walk in the park simply because they arrive from a super legacy, here you have a surprise, and i saw it myself during my screening back in summer.
Things will improve, they have to, next year will be a test for all airlines. I am sure Wizz Air will continue to suck as many pilots as possible in the next months, both rated and NTR.
About reputation, we may have a crap reputation, but still i see candidates from Airlines with a "better reputation" at the screening sessions in Budapest, sweating for an interview.
Lesson one, never spit in the air, because it will come back to you.
Wizz is the only carrier actively looking for pilots, both experienced and cadet level. The others are still in survival mode. Take it as it is, a job opportunity in a dark moment. No ego allowed.
Training is well structured and aircrafts have a clean techlog most of the times.

Best of luck to all those who will give it a try.

TorqueStripe 31st October 2021 16:46

Pearlharbour

Believe me, I am all for the truth.

The 29th October 2019 was also after daylight savings time ended, and under the winter schedule. Today, the first day of the winter schedule this year, there are approx. 560 flights, and that includes Wizz Air Abu Dhabi. From your own link, you can easily see that the only week in which Wizz was flying significantly more than 2019 was the last one, which is due to the delay in changing to the winter schedule as daylight savings time ends.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f7744d84ef.jpg

Brix 31st October 2021 17:02

This is what enrages me: "the right attitude". Having flown for Wizzair some time ago and now enjoying a decent outfit uninterrupted by the pandemic I can tell the difference. The right attitude is this context means to be totally subjugated in a totalitarian, authoritarian and punishing system. They will warn you, they will threaten you and they will not support you. Instead of promoting and motivating you the trainers are waiting and actively looking for your mistakes to criticize and downgrade you. While I was there the airline did not use Airbus procedures, making the onboarding much harder. The leadership style is promoting hidden reports to be written which the affected person never gets to see. I my case HR has failed to register me in the health insurance system of the country they have decided to base me in.

If you prefer to go to work every day being afraid to get fired, go ahead. Nobody told me the truth before I joined. This outlines my experience.

SaulGoodman 31st October 2021 18:55

Giuff is coming is already brainwashed in the Middle East to have “the right attitude”.

Giuff 31st October 2021 19:04

You all can think whatever you want.
So far i did not see anything mentioned up here.
No brainwash received, not in the ME, not during my military career. But thats me.
If people think that Wizz is a punitive environment then dont go to the desert or, worse, to the far east.
I see a lot of things changing in here but, hey, this is my personal opinion.
We are all free to choose whats best for us.
I am not here to glorify Wizz, i am just telling the plain truth seen so far.

I won't answer to the tons of private messages received. Sorry but i do not come here often.

TBSC 31st October 2021 23:00

Should we compare an EU company to the chinese or ME ones and be happy that it's (still) a bit less bad?
Let's get back to your opinion in a year or so when you will have your own experience with Wizz.

dirk85 1st November 2021 02:30

How long have you been in Wizzair Giuff?
Not much by what you are writing.

TBSC 4th November 2021 18:35

Half year (ending on 30 September) report is out (125 million EUR loss) therefore it's now easy to check if the company did return to 2019 capacity levels this summer:

Number of aircraft at the end of the period:
2019: 119
2021: 144

Utilisation (block hours per aircraft per day):
2019: 13.37
2021: 7.37

Total block hours
2019:
280,663
2021: 189,572

Revenue departures
2019:
117,460
2021: 80,488

Average departures per day per aircraft
2019: 5.6
2021: 3.13


Seat capacity
2019:
23,362,404
2021: 16,587,843

It did not. Neither in actual numbers nor in relative figures (considering the fleet growth).

TorqueStripe 4th November 2021 18:54

You forgot to mention that according to their presentation, they are back to 2019 staffing levels, and 70% of people let go decided to return.
So suddenly we're down to the same amount of staff working way less... Go figure;-)

j.nips 16th November 2021 03:59

I wish they'd recall all of those who were let go last year but that is not the fact. A handful of the 265 were called back and yes not everyone decided to return. On the other hand many were still not called back and won't, even if they'd like to and indicated so. Blacklists, redlists, etc. still exist. Major problem IMHO. Despicable to say the least.

FlightDetent 16th November 2021 10:00

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Is there really a plan to reduce the fleet? Otherwise: 144/119*280.663 = 340.000 blh, a possibility to increase (380/190 -1)*100[%] = 80 % over the present levels.

Does that suggest a strong gamble with the investors' money for a market re-shape, or expansion into new territory? Which one then. UK has now the means to protect and build their own industry, Germany is well taken. Turkey covered and North has its own entrepreneurs + actual employment laws. Same cost/accessibility issue in France. Don't think there are any large gains possible in Spain and Italy against EZY, RYR and IAG.

There's good growth for the CEE region, but they also have geographical borders. WZZ is already 2x the size of what it actually operates this year.

TBSC 16th November 2021 21:57

The talking point of the management is "Wizz 500" these days, the "W300" thingy did not last long. Smoke in the mirror, no one will remember them (just like the earlier unfullfilled fleet plans) in 5-10 years.
The big scale (or any scale) market consolidation they expected and kept mentioning for years now did not happen (not even because of covid). The move to west is more or less limited to Italy/Vienna/the UK and already failed in some markets (like Norway, Dortmund, Frankfurt and Salzburg). Abu Dhabi is still quite a small scale operation despite all the hype they try to create. They do not seem to fare any better than the average EU operator during the pandemic, at least 30% of their fleet is still grounded, the re-starting date of several flights are being pushed back repeatedly. Quite a sum was lost on fuel hedging in a few years back, they stopped it, quess what now with the fuel price going up and up... The latest mantra is sustainability and being green which is a blue joke for anyone even remotely familiar with their operation.

Banana Joe 22nd November 2021 08:35

Are they still offering floating contracts?

Newcomer2 24th November 2021 07:46

Not sure if true but you would have to be pretty dumb to refuse a concrete job offer at Enter for a potential one in Wizz. Especially when you see how many fail the selection process.
And yes the company needs pilots, growing by 50% in the next few months

dirk85 24th November 2021 09:21

Banana Joe

They haven't done that in years as far as I know, and all the floaters were assigned a fixed base

TBSC 28th November 2021 16:04

Several cuts accross the schedule until the end of the winter season. Not enough demand, not enough crew, the only way ahead.

MCT SET 30th November 2021 18:42

Any updates with the situation at Wizz ?

Giuff 30th November 2021 19:59

Flying a lot some bases, other less.
Winter + covid wave won't help much. As for the rest, business as usual.

FlyHigh737 6th December 2021 23:59

Hi guys,

Is anyone here who is attending the assessment this week, because it would be a great help if you could tell us something about the computer based technical quiz.

I look forward to hearing from you,

All the best!

TBSC 9th December 2021 16:35


Originally Posted by TBSC (Post 11148305)
Several cuts accross the schedule until the end of the winter season. Not enough demand, not enough crew, the only way ahead.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ff7ea29f2c.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....74edb921aa.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....29c2201ad6.jpg

FlyingBBander 11th December 2021 10:05

Wizz recruitment
 
Hi everyone,

has anyone heard anything lately about the Wizz Air recruitment?
And if they are hiring NTR FO’s?
I hope someone can elaborate.

Have good weekend all


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