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halbeir 10th April 2024 15:57


Originally Posted by fl13 (Post 11631022)
How are things at Wizz UK? I'm hearing it's a 40k bond, for 5 years for cadets. This seems a lot, they must be losing a lot to other airlines, does anyone there see things improving?

Wizz UK has become a training outfit for the likes of Jet2 and BA. 40% annual turnover of FOs. I can't work out why, 2 sector days and competitive salaries point to deep culture or rostering issues.

Chauderon 11th April 2024 00:27


Originally Posted by halbeir (Post 11632894)
deep culture or rostering issues.

Or both

VariablePitchP 11th April 2024 12:51


Originally Posted by halbeir (Post 11632894)
Wizz UK has become a training outfit for the likes of Jet2 and BA. 40% annual turnover of FOs. I can't work out why, 2 sector days and competitive salaries point to deep culture or rostering issues.

It’s the definition of boom and bust. Such a massive percentage of your pay being variable isn’t healthy, offloads all the employment risk into the employee.

To anyone thinking about joining, look at the pension. You basically don’t get one. Day 1 FO at BA gets about 8 times the amount paid into their pension by their company than a senior training captain at Wizz does… Mental.

PAPI-74 11th April 2024 14:20

It's a great place to cut your teeth, but the Ts & Cs are shocking. You are treated like a contractor regards pay.
It's a pretty good take home, but who wants to fly maxed out all year?
It's not sustainable from our side, but from management side, we are there for maximum productivity - it's ultra LO-CO.
The result is, your quality of life is eroded and if you are sick, you lose a load of cash. Their sickness policy is minimal financial support towards their staff. Pension is poor, no healthcare, but you do get several free tickets per year (limited when you can use them).
Some of the best colleagues in the business though.

halbeir 11th April 2024 18:05


Originally Posted by VariablePitchP (Post 11633396)
It’s the definition of boom and bust. Such a massive percentage of your pay being variable isn’t healthy, offloads all the employment risk into the employee.
Mental.

I wholeheartedly agree having worked for one of their European outfits. Off sick for a 6-on block and not only lost out on the flight pay which makes up 60% of takehome, but even had deductions from basic salary for each day missed.

On balance, flight crew are rewarded well when working, 5k SFO and 10k CPT eur net monthly in cheap places like Romania awards a very high living standard compared to high-tax, high-rent UK.

Lessrightrudder 13th April 2024 18:39


Originally Posted by EatFlyRunRepeat (Post 11630244)
I got the email offer after a week or so …

have you received a start date or are you in the hold pool?

Lessrightrudder 13th April 2024 20:10


Originally Posted by EatFlyRunRepeat (Post 11630244)
I got the email offer after a week or so …

was that offer for the hold pool or an actual start date?

Boeing01 14th April 2024 15:57

I recently applied for the cadet job for Wizzair Hungary. Does anyone know how long it takes before they will respond?

Prob30Tempo TSRA 14th April 2024 16:11

Talk about “ cutting your teeth “ but these places that treat people badly eventually emulated by supposedly better gigs … then you have nowhere to progress to

Tortilla 19th April 2024 05:11

Roster Pattern
 
Can anyone confirm that roster pattern 5/4 or 6/4 works for Wizzair Malta based? I’m most interested in Italy (Rome, Milano)

BarryMG 19th April 2024 05:32

Yes, 5/4 works in both. MXP will be a longer wait though, FCO should be achievable within a few months after release, sometimes even direct entry.

Giuff 19th April 2024 06:39


Originally Posted by BarryMG (Post 11638405)
Yes, 5/4 works in both. MXP will be a longer wait though, FCO should be achievable within a few months after release, sometimes even direct entry.

Its not 5/4. Its a 6/3 in real life

Tortilla 19th April 2024 07:22

BarryMG You mean that you first start on flexible roster and then can apply for 5/4?

Tortilla 19th April 2024 07:23


Originally Posted by Giuff (Post 11638436)
Its not 5/4. Its a 6/3 in real life

Still fine for me. My roster is a mess since ever, so any kind of stability is more than welcome

Nikker 19th April 2024 07:35


Originally Posted by Tortilla (Post 11638465)
BarryMG You mean that you first start on flexible roster and then can apply for 5/4?

He means that it's unlikely that you will get Italian bases immediately after joining. However everything is possible. You can choose roster pattern without waiting

Tortilla 19th April 2024 10:24


Originally Posted by Nikker (Post 11638471)
He means that it's unlikely that you will get Italian bases immediately after joining. However everything is possible. You can choose roster pattern without waiting

Ok, thanks for info.

Plastic787 19th April 2024 11:29


Originally Posted by halbeir (Post 11633535)
On balance, flight crew are rewarded well when working, 5k SFO and 10k CPT eur net monthly in cheap places like Romania awards a very high living standard compared to high-tax, high-rent UK.

Only relevant if you’re going to retire to Romania. What percentage of Wizz Air Pilots does that actually apply to? You can kick that can as far down the road as you like if you want to bury your head in the sand but sooner or later the cold reality that your retirement funds are going to be woefully inadequate for Western Europe (where most people want to be) will slap you hard in the face.

Wizz Air is a job for Eastern European locals and those looking to get their rating and hours done as quickly as possible before getting out again. Always has been always will be whilst the current management are willing to accept such horrendous attrition.

enzino 19th April 2024 11:54


Originally Posted by halbeir (Post 11633535)
On balance, flight crew are rewarded well when working, 5k SFO and 10k CPT eur net monthly in cheap places like Romania awards a very high living standard compared to high-tax, high-rent UK.

In Italy that's way less. 3,5k for SFO and 7k for CPT. But they are adamant their package is competitive.

Alloy 19th April 2024 15:35

Stability is the most inappropriate word I would use for Wizz. Instability i would agree with.

AERO75 19th April 2024 16:16


Originally Posted by enzino (Post 11638676)
In Italy that's way less. 3,5k for SFO and 7k for CPT. But they are adamant their package is competitive.

worst case without tax benefit and low kms/ landings: 2.5k SFO 5.5K CPT.


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