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bringbackthe80s 27th April 2019 06:05

Sounds like paradise!

aircowboy 28th April 2019 08:44

Ryanair commuting lifestyle
 
Hi all,

can you guys share how is commuting life working for Ryanair as a pilot?

thanks for your help

4Screwaircrew 28th April 2019 09:41

I don’t commute, but talking to those who do if you are not lucky with your base the 5 on 4 off pattern effectively becomes 7 on 2 off.

aircowboy 28th April 2019 09:50

I have been assigned a base with daily and direct flights to my city(2 hours flight). What do you think?

The Crew 28th April 2019 12:43

I understand that you have to live within an hour from base, is this during your 5 on period? Presumably you can do what you want in your own time?

Victor Golf 28th April 2019 19:13


Originally Posted by midnight cruiser (Post 10457954)
Correct. And commuting is generally uncomplicated (as it should be). However, I do get a bit irritated by colleagues who position in and then operate after little or no rest, and are about as sharp as a balloon on day one. It risks a crack down like what has happened at BA.

Anyway, the key to a happy life at Ryanair is to live as close possible to base.

I've also been recommended this for when I start, travelling to work only makes fatigue worse so make sure to stay close to the airport and I would imagine you would be less fatigued

samca 28th April 2019 22:04


Originally Posted by midnight cruiser (Post 10457954)
Correct. And commuting is generally uncomplicated (as it should be). However, I do get a bit irritated by colleagues who position in and then operate after little or no rest, and are about as sharp as a balloon on day one. It risks a crack down like what has happened at BA.

Anyway, the key to a happy life at Ryanair is to live as close possible to base.

The key is to fly in the closest base to your home that usually have 2 sectors. If not you are death, 4 sectors every day in the 737 with 24 min turnaround? When you arrive to your home you don’t want even to see the face of your wife. You just think in eat something and sleep like a babe for the next day 4 sector day. Specially if you are on earlies.

you can do that 3/4 years??

cheers

The Crew 29th April 2019 01:43

Experiencing long duty periods, but not being productive is as fatiguing . multi sectors, then a drive to the 3* hotel then more sectors the next day. with hours transits at base. Then amaybe a red eye the next evening..

The guys at my employer are keen for a ryanair style of roster. No one here’s afraid to graft, as long as the time off compensates .

Rendy 29th April 2019 02:42

Yes, the roster is perfect. And it’s no more 900h / year. They hired so many cadets last 2 years, that in average you fly 60 hours / month. At least as an F/O, don’t know how it is for skippers though.

samca 29th April 2019 07:03


Originally Posted by Rendy (Post 10458530)
Yes, the roster is perfect. And it’s no more 900h / year. They hired so many cadets last 2 years, that in average you fly 60 hours / month. At least as an F/O, don’t know how it is for skippers though.

men the roster is perfect? Come onnn! Are you serious? The roster 5/4 flying 900 hours per year with lot of days of 4 sectors in a Boeing 737NG with 1.678.673 Ryanair SOPs every sector, kills you. Simple!

BoeingLudo737 29th April 2019 07:54


Originally Posted by samca (Post 10458627)


men the roster is perfect? Come onnn! Are you serious? The roster 5/4 flying 900 hours per year with lot of days of 4 sectors in a Boeing 737NG with 1.678.673 Ryanair SOPs every sector, kills you. Simple!

It probably suits some people, haven't heard of anyone working 5/4 being killed by the roster

brushcounsel 29th April 2019 07:59


Originally Posted by samca (Post 10458627)
men the roster is perfect? Come onnn! Are you serious? The roster 5/4 flying 900 hours per year with lot of days of 4 sectors in a Boeing 737NG with 1.678.673 Ryanair SOPs every sector, kills you. Simple!

Nothing like flying 899:59 a year and landing at 6am after flying redeyes with your current employer, right, samca?

Hundreds of new cadets every year manage Ryanair SOPs just fine, so experienced pilot like you should have no problem with that, right?

samca 29th April 2019 12:56


Originally Posted by brushcounsel (Post 10458657)
Nothing like flying 899:59 a year and landing at 6am after flying redeyes with your current employer, right, samca?

Hundreds of new cadets every year manage Ryanair SOPs just fine, so experienced pilot like you should have no problem with that, right?

I never landed at 6am. Even 4 so I cannot answer that question for now.
yes maybe is the problem that experienced pilots don’t know how to manage the fatigue and cadets are experts. Or maybe cadets are brand new in this world and they don’t manage fatigue yet.... who knows but anyway if they are happy that is the important I’m happy for them 😊

aircowboy 29th April 2019 19:17

One more question guys,

Is it true with the new contract, you can split the 20 vacation days in 5 days 4 times? I know that with the 10 Ad Hoc days you can, but not sure about the 20 vacations days.

Thanks again

flyzed 30th April 2019 05:53


Originally Posted by aircowboy (Post 10459127)
One more question guys,

Is it true with the new contract, you can split the 20 vacation days in 5 days 4 times? I know that with the 10 Ad Hoc days you can, but not sure about the 20 vacations days.

Thanks again

Correct, 20 days split in 4 blocks of 5 days (13 days free per block of annual leave) at least in the italian contract. Ad hoc leave are 9 days (not 10) and 1 day is mandatory assigned by the company on 25th of december. Happy landing

aircowboy 30th April 2019 08:23

Any idea if in Spain is also like that?

Newcomer2 30th April 2019 14:06


Originally Posted by aircowboy (Post 10459515)
Any idea if in Spain is also like that?

I would like to know as well!

SpainHire 30th April 2019 14:41


Originally Posted by aircowboy (Post 10459515)
Any idea if in Spain is also like that?

No, it is not.

Newcomer2 1st May 2019 13:40


Originally Posted by SpainHire (Post 10459812)
No, it is not.

Thank you for your reply!
Could you also tell us if it's a full local contract (like in Italy), or if it's an Irish contract that follows the Spanish law? And do they ask you to open a bank account in Ireland to get your pay?

Full_blast 1st May 2019 16:44


Originally Posted by Newcomer2 (Post 10460521)


Thank you for your reply!
Could you also tell us if it's a full local contract (like in Italy), or if it's an Irish contract that follows the Spanish law? And do they ask you to open a bank account in Ireland to get your pay?

It is an Irish contract that does not follow the Spanish law.

Newcomer2 1st May 2019 17:17

Even more confusing then!

So, if I may ask: if you are based in Spain and live there, the social insurance is paid there, but what about the income tax? Is it paid in Ireland or in Spain?

aircowboy 1st May 2019 19:12


Originally Posted by Full_blast (Post 10460662)


It is an Irish contract that does not follow the Spanish law.

Aren’t they supposed to follow the Spanish law from the 31st January 2019 according to what they signed with Sepla last October?

Full_blast 2nd May 2019 05:55


Originally Posted by Newcomer2 (Post 10460693)
Even more confusing then!

So, if I may ask: if you are based in Spain and live there, the social insurance is paid there, but what about the income tax? Is it paid in Ireland or in Spain?

S.I. is paid in Spain and income tax in Ireland. At the end of the year you'll then pay (or not) any difference in Spain when filing your tax declaration form.



Originally Posted by aircowboy (Post 10460781)


Aren’t they supposed to follow the Spanish law from the 31st January 2019 according to what they signed with Sepla last October?


They are (were) supposed to do many things.
Even by their own admission they are unable to fully comply with some local laws due to lack of crew (for example the parental leave in Italy) as reported in the latest ANPAC newsletter.
One of the latest news in Spain is that it now seems they have accepted to pay the salary in any European SEPA account, thus eliminating the stupid requirement of having to open an Irish bank account.

To be fair to everybody, it seems that, in certain fields, things are moving towards the right direction, even if at super hyper slow-pace, at least in Spain.



aircowboy 2nd May 2019 06:21


Originally Posted by Full_blast (Post 10461035)


S.I. is paid in Spain and income tax in Ireland. At the end of the year you'll then pay (or not) any difference in Spain when filing your tax declaration form.





They are (were) supposed to do many things.
Even by their own admission they are unable to fully comply with some local laws due to lack of crew (for example the parental leave in Italy) as reported in the latest ANPAC newsletter.
One of the latest news in Spain is that it now seems they have accepted to pay the salary in any European SEPA account, thus eliminating the stupid requirement of having to open an Irish bank account.

To be fair to everybody, it seems that, in certain fields, things are moving towards the right direction, even if at super hyper slow-pace, at least in Spain.



Hi Full_blast,

Thank you for your help. According to Spanish law you are entitled to work part time due to kids. Is Ryanair accepting it?

Thank you.

Full_blast 2nd May 2019 07:08


Originally Posted by aircowboy (Post 10461043)


Hi Full_blast,

Thank you for your help. According to Spanish law you are entitled to work part time due to kids. Is Ryanair accepting it?

Thank you.

I am familiar to the law you are referring to, and it is in fact one of the major key points SEPLA is trying to get sorted.

The answer is no. You can request parental leave which will be either allowed/denied or assigned at Company's will.

aircowboy 2nd May 2019 07:17

So I understand they are not respecting the agreement they signed with Sepla, right?

aircowboy 2nd May 2019 07:40


Originally Posted by Full_blast (Post 10461062)


I am familiar to the law you are referring to, and it is in fact one of the major key points SEPLA is trying to get sorted.

The answer is no. You can request parental leave which will be either allowed/denied or assigned at Company's will.

I am not talking about parental leave. The one I’m referring to is the art 37.5 of the Spanish labor law in which you can work part time (50%, 80% of your normal work) to take care of the kids.

Full_blast 2nd May 2019 08:00


Originally Posted by aircowboy (Post 10461081)


I am not talking about parental leave. The one I’m referring to is the art 37.5 of the Spanish labor law in which you can work part time (50%, 80% of your normal work) to take care of the kids.

I know, and I answered.

Again, the answer to your question is NO.

The only thing you get in Spain is P/L with the conditions I told you.

aircowboy 2nd May 2019 08:19

So this article and the agreement is bull!!!!?

https://www.google.es/amp/s/www.abc....ticia_amp.html

What was the agreement between Sepla and Ryanair if they are not following the Spanish labor law?

Newcomer2 2nd May 2019 16:12

Full_blast, thank you so much for taking time to answer all our questions, it's very helpful!
Not the answer I wanted to hear, as in my personal case I will end up paying a lot more taxes than if I had a full local contract. Hopefully things will change...

samca 2nd May 2019 19:29

As other colleague said. THE PARADISE 🤣

aircowboy 11th May 2019 07:45


Originally Posted by Full_blast (Post 10461102)


I know, and I answered.

Again, the answer to your question is NO.

The only thing you get in Spain is P/L with the conditions I told you.


Hopefully after this new things will change:

https://www.eleconomista.es/empresas...-espanola.html

BeGuidedAccordingly 13th May 2019 07:59

Anyone got a start date who did the assessment in April?

rogue leader 13th May 2019 11:09

Brexit and UK bases
 
Anyone able to confirm whether Brexit uncertainty means UK licenced cadets are getting UK bases?

Thanks,

RL

Antonio Montana 13th May 2019 15:05

From talking to friends who joined recently, they all have had to change the State of Licence issue to the IAA.
I would imagine that will stay the same regardless.

Ryanairrecruitment 17th May 2019 09:19

Hi Guys and Girls, we have have had tremendous success over the last 18 months hiring hiring 400+ Captains from across the globe, with many airlines going out of business including Germania, Primera, Privitair, WOW etc and base closures from Norwegian there was been a solid supply, as a result we have front loaded our Captain recruitment for this year. With new t's and c's, local contracts and very limited hiring elsewhere, we have very low attrition rates. We have no further plans to recruit Non-Type Rated Captains, we will commence recruitment again for Rated Captains in early 2020 for summer 2020 courses. Thanks to everyone who has been to one of our roadshows and met us over the last year. We will continue to hire First officers and cadets and our sister Airline Lauda Motion have open captain opportunities available for both rated and non-rated captains and this will be updated on our website accordingly.

IFLYyouBREATH 17th May 2019 20:13

I applied in February, and not heard anything yet, I have 2 friends that applied and got called the day after.
Ryanair is my top priority but I don't know what's wrong..
Thanks

samca 18th May 2019 16:53


Originally Posted by Ryanairrecruitment (Post 10473325)
Hi Guys and Girls, we have have had tremendous success over the last 18 months hiring hiring 400+ Captains from across the globe, with many airlines going out of business including Germania, Primera, Privitair, WOW etc and base closures from Norwegian there was been a solid supply, as a result we have front loaded our Captain recruitment for this year. With new t's and c's, local contracts and very limited hiring elsewhere, we have very low attrition rates. We have no further plans to recruit Non-Type Rated Captains, we will commence recruitment again for Rated Captains in early 2020 for summer 2020 courses. Thanks to everyone who has been to one of our roadshows and met us over the last year. We will continue to hire First officers and cadets and our sister Airline Lauda Motion have open captain opportunities available for both rated and non-rated captains and this will be updated on our website accordingly.

Yeapp, and all this pilots went to Ryanair....
maybe the MAX problem has something to see with?

maximus610 29th May 2019 10:50

SKG base
 
Any info about SKG base? How long should a freshly quilified f/o to wait until getting there?

MaverickPrime 29th May 2019 13:04

Would it be safe to say that a STN FO, once 500hrs+ and upgraded from the cadet contract, would get £4000 net per month?


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