CC99, i totally agree.

Now is the time for us all to get behind BALPA and prove to the company that their way is coming to the end and we will not be led down the garden path anymore.

Can't wait for the newsletter so i can see how much they really think of the workforce. All the letters we get from up high say they appreciate us, know we work hard etc. etc. etc. Well now is the time to show your hand and we will play ours.

Anyone got the letter/details yet? If so can u pop it on the Balpa site for us to see?!

From a post on the Balpa forum looks like they are still writing it. Looks like we have to wait a few more days to laugh at the companies offer.....

Why waste the time and paper. Unless it's outstanding, and most of us doubt that, then I don't think I'd be far from the mark in suggesting that the majority will decline the offer anyway!!

So, over a month since Balpa knew about the pay offer and now nearly 2weeks since the scheduling part was finalised...

My postman is bored with my exited, expectant face!

Ho hum.

I don't get it. How complicated can an offer be that it takes over a week to write? If it's a poor offer I fail to see how pages of background info on how it was derived will change anyone's mind on whether it's good or not. If it's a reasonable offer, ditto. Everything these days is massively overcomplicated. Maybe when it arrives I'll be enlightened.

So do you think the CC are trying to dress it up to try and get us to accept?

I believe all we need are the facts so we can decide.

No I don't think the CC would do that.

After all, they've put in an awful lot of time and effort into these negotiations - why would they just settle for something that they know their members wouldn't accept?

I think the reason it's taking so long is that they have to get the exact wording of any deal correct. There can't be a grey area - and I also assume they need the company to ratify whatever it is that BALPA are going to send to their members.

It wouldn't surprise me if that was the reason for the hold-up - waiting for a company sign-off!

Suspicions are high that the documentation is taking longer to prepare as it will form the first part of a ballot for industrial action, the rules for this are very specific.

Combining the various crew issues, Pay & Scheduling into one deal is potentially a good idea - but only if generous. If the company fail to deliver on both, the crews will be left thinking they are paying for the long promised lifestyle improvements out of their own pockets!

For too long we have worked hard, head down and agreed to whatever was needed to get the job done. All with the promise that when the good times return we would all share in the prosperity. Well, turns out the good times never left Flybe... lets start to reap the rewards of all out hard work.

The company must be worried as I've heard on the grape vine that's there's a emergency Base managers meeting this week in Birmingham.

Lets hope someone does not ram a pot noodle where the sun doesnt shine ;)

My base manager told me the same, looks like it's all hotting up!

Interesting times. What is a PBM meeting going to accomplish?

The company gave the CC their final position on the 7th Jan. It's nearly 2 weeks since then, and I've still have no idea what's going on. Why can't we be told what's on offer and THEN have explanations, ballot papers etc sent out? We're used to being kept in the dark by the company, but increasingly the CC are giving the impression that we're not considered adult enough to process raw information.

I know there's process to follow, but how on earth do outfits like the RMT manage to go on strike like clockwork twice a year and still satisfy due process?? :ugh:

The PBM meeting was today in BHX.

Speaking to a rep yesterday they are not able to leek information ahead of any formal announcement of any (industrial) action as, because FlyBE is now a listed company, there would be implications regarding any possible trading in shares using sensitive privileged information. Said rep is desperate for the announcement to be made (should be by weeks end, just requires Balpa HQ approval of the newsletter) so that all the reps can answer all our questions

I'm guessing there'll be an e-copy promulgated by BALPA too? For the benefit of those of us cavorting in Athens.

Presumably the company want to tell them what story to spin and what the company's stand is?

That much's obvious, don't think anybody is naive enough to listen.

(What's with all my details on your post?)

Check ur inbox tomorrow lunchtime then... Apparently?!