I'm I being a bit dumb or did balpa go into a meeting to complain about removal of the aims info and flights being uncovered for days until the morning of your standby to avoid a DP. They come out with an increase in stby duty length and the aims info back (which if you believe the original reason is now is contravention of the data protection act... I know, I know).

Top negotiation this............ I'll expect them to agree my pay cut by next week. :rolleyes:

Big Picture - If you're a BALPA member get on the company forums and let the council know of your concerns directly rather than blasting them on an anonymous forum. You'll find that one had absolutely nothing to do with the other

Big Picture

You'll also do well to get your facts right. The company arbitrarily increased standbys to 10hrs without consultation. Maybe you should retract what you said.

Ok ok, so the company fired this one out of their own accord. Yet another unilateral move by the management to cause bother and erode goodwill / moral. Nowt to do with the CC but I hope you can forgive my frustration.

I am a fully paid up Balpa member and the council have my support, maybe I'm just a little fed of the apparent lack of progress not unlike many of my colleagues in the crew room.

We're all feeling it mate. Hang in there, it can only get better..........it can't get much worse - or can it?

Yeah, keep the faith (company's taken everything else)

BOSD, hate to say this mate, but you're behind on your NotACs.

'Crew faith has had to be withdrawn with immediate effect, pending a cost neutral solution, to which of course we are fully committed. Any decision on hope is still to be made, but given the current financial climate, in which Flybe is barely surviving, crew must be prepared to make reasonable concessions to ensure the long term viability of the business.'

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

I'd abandoned all hope years ago, now back to the cricket

Darwin airlines buys flybaboo! In the paper this morning. I guess no swiss aoc then!

who believed that nonsense rumour anyway?

Where's Bob Crow when you need him?

Well there is the announcement of the float.... does this mean we have more bargaining power? Will the new shareholders be amenable to a pilot pay rise? Should BALPA publicise the workforce are disgruntled? Raises more questions than it answers for me.

BBC News - Flybe plans to join stock market

The profits are going somewhere...

Flybe set for £200m float - Telegraph

Chatting to an economist colleague of mine just this afternoon, he believed that potential Strike, or Industrial Action at the airline could affect the share price by as much as 30-40%.

Management have been fools to let this run on and on, it should have been nipped in the bud and implemented months ago. The BALPA 'demands' are not entirely unreasonable either.

Fingers crossed for a speedy resolution. I for one do not want to strike, it is unfair to our passengers, BUT I will if we have to.

Guys

Heard the City owes you a massive thank you for not derailing the flotation with talk of striking.

There was a real risk that your CEO wouldn't realise his £millions, so you've been a huge help. You can't imagine how close it actually all was - I heard a rumour that the deal team assigned a junior to check this thread!

Anyway, he'll be off soon to spend his money, so you'll be negotiating with a new CEO. The problem is that he needs profits to keep growing, and now you' re listed, they need to grow every quarter.

Your management team call can now tell you to F off properly with any talk of big pay rises/strikes, as if you couldn't get anything substantive out of them before the float, you're not now it's a listed vehicle.

I grant you FANS retort was brutal but its difficult to dispute the crux of his or her message.

Sometimes we get angry with people because deep down we know what they're saying is true - I feel thats whats happened here Wingo.

I'll get the lights, this threads over.

CB

I don't think anyone at Flybe was daft enough to think they could derail the flotation.

The real target of any industrial action will be be Summer '11. Will it be profitable or not? That depends on Uncle Jim's response to the announcement of industrial action.

Sorry if I missed this, but how many shares did the workforce get during this flotation. Did you have to pay any money for them?

Shares were given gratis (free) to all eligable employees in 2004 and 2006. The amount given to each employee depended on what there position was in the company and how long they had been in the company.
Shares were NOT given to the BA connect guy's when they joined as they were not a part of the company when the Share issue was first mooted and first round of share's issued.
If a employee then decided to leave the company from the time the shares were issued to the date of initial flotation then they forfeited there right's to there shares and these were put back into the pot for re-issue.

hope this helps.