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Ummm..well it would be nice to think there is some "give" from a certain quarter but if you'll pardon me asking do you have a source for that?
I'm on e-mail Bulletin 33, timed at lunchtime today (GMM details) and also just had a look at another source and have seen no mention of that letter. BALPA officials and reps are quite rightly playing cards very closely to the chest.... |
Talks
Saw it as a Daily Mail headline. Not the most reliable I know. Just checked their site, searched under BA strike, and it is still there.
Back page at the moment after Brexit announcements. |
Gotta be honest, until IAG get involved (if ever) , BA don’t have the ability to offer any more money. I suppose that is why they have offered the corporate offering to everyone, giving a few crumbs and changes to working agreements for various work groups, as that is one of the few things they can offer. |
Talks
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d_desktop_news
British Airways pilots' union leaders warn there is 'absolutely no point' in fresh talks to avert a series of planned strikes unless a pay offer is improved.So I guess it is up to BA now. Realistic talks or strike action. |
Saw it as a Daily Mail headline |
Does he think BA are barking? :) |
Originally Posted by 77
(Post 10557048)
Saw it as a Daily Mail headline.
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Originally Posted by A340Yumyum
(Post 10557237)
Ah, must be true, then.
when are the public going to get the message about this management fiasco. |
I think most staff in BA go through a phase of wanting to offer suggestions to improve things or efficiency . After being told enough times to wind your neck in, most of us shrug our shoulders and just dream what an awesome company BA could have been had we ever had decent management and leadership. Maybe that’s the British disease. |
Originally Posted by hunterboy
(Post 10557315)
I think most staff in BA go through a phase of wanting to offer suggestions to improve things or efficiency . After being told enough times to wind your neck in, most of us shrug our shoulders and just dream what an awesome company BA could have been had we ever had decent management and leadership. Maybe that’s the British disease. |
So the CEO and COO will be going soon I hear, COO off to Tui
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Originally Posted by TheAirMission
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So the CEO and COO will be going soon I hear, COO off to Tui
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Originally Posted by hunterboy
(Post 10557315)
I think most staff in BA go through a phase of wanting to offer suggestions to improve things or efficiency . After being told enough times to wind your neck in, most of us shrug our shoulders and just dream what an awesome company BA could have been had we ever had decent management and leadership. Maybe that’s the British disease. |
1. It’s always been done this way 2. It’s not going to change 3. Get used to it |
Jump or be pushed
AC has being trying to push KG for ages.
Blame avoidance & finger pointing are the two main bloodsports. How much integrity remained when SR left the table? |
Originally Posted by Maxfli
(Post 10558128)
AC has being trying to push KG for ages.
Blame avoidance & finger pointing are the two main bloodsports. How much integrity remained when SR left the table? |
Originally Posted by Mylius
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Are AC or KG still even at the company? There’s been lots of chat about one or both leaving this week. |
I wonder if Klaus did the typical BA lo-cost Conversion course? A full conversion course done in half the normal time to save money! No wonder he failed if true.
I’m sure there is a word that describes that situation?....... |
Originally Posted by frozenpilot
(Post 10525317)
Danny boy... shows how little you know! Don’t believe any headline figures. Do your research, look at Lufthansa, KLM... and the American carriers pay deals before judging. Then understand better how hard and how much BA Pilots have sacrificed in the past ten years. Then consider inflation against this claim of 11.5%... also, look at the rises the CEO has enjoyed recently, as well as a bumper one off dividend for share holders. Only when you see the true picture will you understand how shafted we have been and the true insult this pay offer is..... oh and please understand any pay deal is based on ‘ unspecified change initiatives.’ Translated to mean - self funded pay rise through harder work. Play devils advocate.... do your research and look at fact.. not spin! Overpaid pilot demanding pay raise = deserved pay raise due to harder work Overpaid company ceo getting pay raise = greedy ceo stealing money because he can get away with it. I hope you see the double standard. If not, you are already lost... |
Originally Posted by Sunamer
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Cant wait when automation (aka toyota for the pilots, while pilots behave like overpaid Detroit car manufacturing workers) takes over. And these guys are doing everything in their power to make that happen and to incentivize the employers to do that... Overpaid pilot demanding pay raise = deserved pay raise due to harder work Overpaid company ceo getting pay raise = greedy ceo stealing money because he can get away with it. I hope you see the double standard. If not, you are already lost... Let's be clear, pilots are not overpaid. They are paid according to market forces. The market force is and has been trending upwards since 2008 and BA pilots have not shared in that. People like to slam pilots, saying they're not the most critical part of an airline. Funny, then, that almost all flights will be cancelled when the BA lot walk. Pretty critical, wouldn't you say! If pilots could be replaced as easily as for example labourers, they would be, but they can't. Automation to the point where zero pilots are required is very, very distant. Take the tesla autopilot as an example of where we are from a moral point of view, let alone a technological one. |
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