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Originally Posted by Sunamer
(Post 10558625)
Cant wait when automation (aka toyota for the pilots, while pilots behave like overpaid Detroit car manufacturing workers) takes over. And these guys are doing everything in their power to make that happen and to incentivize the employers to do that... Overpaid pilot demanding pay raise = deserved pay raise due to harder work Overpaid company ceo getting pay raise = greedy ceo stealing money because he can get away with it. I hope you see the double standard. If not, you are already lost... |
Originally Posted by Busdriver01
(Post 10558636)
11.5% (10.5%) payrise vs. 63% payrise. Even the worst mathematician can see that's not a "double standard"
Let's be clear, pilots are not overpaid. They are paid according to market forces. The market force is and has been trending upwards since 2008 and BA pilots have not shared in that. People like to slam pilots, saying they're not the most critical part of an airline. Funny, then, that almost all flights will be cancelled when the BA lot walk. Pretty critical, wouldn't you say! If pilots could be replaced as easily as for example labourers, they would be, but they can't. Automation to the point where zero pilots are required is very, very distant. Take the tesla autopilot as an example of where we are from a moral point of view, let alone a technological one. |
Out of curiosity, is the BA company contribution to the pension 15.6% or 12.6% and is it the same for new joiners? |
15% if you do 6%. And it’s available to new joiners, yes. |
Originally Posted by Sunamer
(Post 10558625)
Cant wait when automation (aka toyota for the pilots, while pilots behave like overpaid Detroit car manufacturing workers) takes over. And these guys are doing everything in their power to make that happen and to incentivize the employers to do that... Overpaid pilot demanding pay raise = deserved pay raise due to harder work Overpaid company ceo getting pay raise = greedy ceo stealing money because he can get away with it. I hope you see the double standard. If not, you are already lost... Muppetry of the first order. I take it you're ready to take you and your family on a pilot-less airliner across the world on holiday? Thought not. But hey, as long as you get your £9.99 flight to Alicante you're happy I guess. Moron! Sounds like a Daily Mail journo to me. Don't feed the troll folks. |
Originally Posted by 3Greens
(Post 10558249)
Heard Klaus failed his 787 conversion course and has withdrawn from a flying role. You heard wrong. |
Originally Posted by A340Yumyum
(Post 10558884)
You heard wrong. |
Speaking generically if someone has a Canadian rating and wishes to fly a UK airliner they cannot just do a type rating. To convert to a UK or EASA licence means a lot of exams and is a prolonged process. |
Originally Posted by plhought
(Post 10559022)
Klaus was flying the 787 at Air Canada all the time. I can't see him failing a 787 ride.
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I see the comms are starting to come in from the ‘big guns’. The one being from AB asking if you could fill in a form to say if you are willing to fly on a strike day if rostered. Personally I think you’d be mad to fill out such a form. Your name will eventually be known. This is BA IT we’re talking about :rolleyes: |
Personally I think you’d be mad to fill out such a form. Your name will eventually be known. |
They (BA) are trying to gauge who is going to come in. |
Bully tactics
Good luck to the BA guys. I hope they do not give in to the bully Boys. They need a successful outcome. Otherwise without a change of management BA will disappear. The shareholders need a strong message. This management has to go and be replaced by somebody who wants BA to be successful British product.
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Originally Posted by RoyMunson
(Post 10559412)
He failed his final line check but passed on a second attempt with a more ‘friendly’ trainer. |
Originally Posted by A340Yumyum
(Post 10560442)
Roy, where do you get this BS from? That is simply not true. |
Isn’t it? My source is pretty reliable. You not from BA are you? Tell us what you know? |
Originally Posted by RoyMunson
(Post 10559422)
I see the comms are starting to come in from the ‘big guns’. The one being from AB asking if you could fill in a form to say if you are willing to fly on a strike day if rostered. Personally I think you’d be mad to fill out such a form. Your name will eventually be known. This is BA IT we’re talking about :rolleyes: |
Again, with no insider knowledge in Klaus’ case, I would suggest it would be difficult enough passing a BA conversion course while studying for it 100%, without having to worry about his other day job. I’ll cut the guy a bit of slack on that . Maybe it will give him an insight in the corners and costs being cut in BA in the various training departments. At least he is in a position to change things if he wanted. |
Originally Posted by sudden twang
(Post 10560750)
I heard that was not the Q asked. Extract from the Email from AB..... "Whether you are currently rostered to work or not over this period, I would be grateful if you would let me know your willingness to work by completing this simple confidential form before 0700 (local time) on Tuesday 3 September.:" |
Originally Posted by RoyMunson
(Post 10561068)
OK......
Extract from the Email from AB..... "Whether you are currently rostered to work or not over this period, I would be grateful if you would let me know your willingness to work by completing this simple confidential form before 0700 (local time) on Tuesday 3 September.:" |
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