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Daddy Fantastic 1st Sep 2019 14:11

Just For You VJW!!
 

Originally Posted by VJW (Post 10425658)
As I said, it appears it was unintentional, however I don't have to lighten up if I feel someone is being sexist..

As an airplane is about to crash, a female passenger jumps up frantically and announces, "If I'm going to die, I want to die feeling like a woman." She removes all her clothing and asks, "Is there someone on this plane who is man enough to make me feel like a woman?" A man stands up, removes his shirt and says, "Here, iron this!".

Daddy Fantastic 1st Sep 2019 14:12

Also for VJW
 

Originally Posted by VJW (Post 10425658)
As I said, it appears it was unintentional, however I don't have to lighten up if I feel someone is being sexist..

A man is lying on the beach, wearing nothing but a cap over his crotch. A woman passing by remarks, "If you were any sort of a gentleman, you would lift your hat to a lady." He replies, "If you were any sort of a sexy lady, the hat would lift by itself."

gearlever 1st Sep 2019 15:12

Austro Control investigations (German)

Newcomer2 1st Sep 2019 16:09

Sorry I don't speak German, but using google translate I understand that 4 pilots were fired because they made some ASRs, and that the airline is now under investigation, is that correct?

gearlever 1st Sep 2019 16:26

Austro Control examines error culture at Laudamotion

The four pilots were former Head of Flight Operations, Head of Training Departement, Vice Head of Training Departement and Chief Technical Pilot.

sonicbum 1st Sep 2019 16:51


Originally Posted by gearlever (Post 10559315)
Austro Control examines error culture at Laudamotion

The four pilots were former Head of Flight Operations, Head of Training Departement, Vice Head of Training Departement and Chief Technical Pilot.

The apple does not fall too far from the tree I guess.

BoeingLudo737 2nd Sep 2019 08:54


Originally Posted by sonicbum (Post 10559329)
The apple does not fall too far from the tree I guess.

Give it up, you are ridiculous

El Capitano 2nd Sep 2019 16:15

Application ban on Lauda motion, buzz and Ryanair Sun
 

Originally Posted by BoeingLudo737 (Post 10559771)
Give it up, you are ridiculous

Everyone is free to apply for the airline he/she would like to fly for, but please stop applying at Lauda Motion, buzz and Ryanair Sun and even Ryanair main airline.
Don,t accept their crappy conditions, even much worser than Ryanair itself. Again a evasive tactic from O leary and his scum management: closing bases where the unions did fight for market conform conditions and instead serving these bases with their freshly launched new airlines, Lauda Motion, Buzz, Air Malta and Ryanair Sun with much lower salaries. No pilot or cabin crew should accept these insult terms and conditiins, by simply not applying at all.
And again it is made clear that all pilot and cabin crew union
from each individual (European) state should merge together and make one big common protest at EU commision level to stop these slavery conditions. It is high time that the low fare race to the bottom is being stopped!!
It is a fact that in the USA the conditions are much better, thanks to a very strong union who continues fighting hard for the conditions their union members deserve!

gearlever 2nd Sep 2019 18:05

El Capitano,

well said, I fully agree.
Sad the EU Commission cares about the shape of bananas but concerning working conditions in aviation they seem like a toothless tiger to me.

bulldog89 2nd Sep 2019 18:37

I agree.
The fact the EU is permitting this is just ridiculous.

RoyHudd 2nd Sep 2019 23:41

EU? No thank you

Aso 3rd Sep 2019 10:57


Originally Posted by gearlever (Post 10560202)
El Capitano,

well said, I fully agree.
Sad the EU Commission cares about the shape of bananas but concerning working conditions in aviation they seem like a toothless tiger to me.

Sorry get your facts straight: the banana stories and similar non sense we got thanks to Boris the liar https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...s-followed-his

Social dumping is very high on the social agenda at both the EC and EASA thanks to Ryanair.... Only issue it takes time to ensure that all parties that negotiate (read unions, employers, states, etc) have agreed on a text that suits most.

So stop reading the Daily Mail and maybe ask your union what they are doing on this issue and ask what you can do!

TinFoilhat 3rd Sep 2019 11:21

Well of course you can join, get a type rating and some experience and just move on. Maybe thats what they want. Seems a silly way to run an airline to me but once a pilot has enough jet time they will just move on for better paying jobs.

These rubbish paying LCC operators will be in a state of perpetual hiring which seems crazy.

CaptainProp 3rd Sep 2019 20:10


Originally Posted by TinFoilhat (Post 10560724)
Well of course you can join, get a type rating and some experience and just move on. Maybe thats what they want. Seems a silly way to run an airline to me but once a pilot has enough jet time they will just move on for better paying jobs.

These rubbish paying LCC operators will be in a state of perpetual hiring which seems crazy.

Cheaper than having to pay for loyalty of people staying too long with the company. Sad but thatís the way that calculation goes.

CP

tcas69 5th Sep 2019 17:13


Originally Posted by Newcomer2 (Post 10559180)


Taxation in Austria is really high, about 50% of your gross salary. There are online tax calculators as well, they give the same figures.
You can also compare the gross salaries and you will see that the conditions are definitely not the same: the total package for a ryanair captain in Spain is around 154000 euros per year, in Lauda based in Palma (same country!) it's 98000, so 37% less.

There's a reason why ryanair is stopping the recruitment and closing bases, it's a management tactic to transfer the flights to their other airlines where the conditions are worse. Capitalism at its best...

I suggest you do not apply to this company!!!!
having said that there are many special tricks in Austria which bring the taxrate down!
Evrybody gets 14 monthly salaries (13/14 in June/November) Urlaubsgeld/Christmasbonus taxed at 6! Percent thatís law!
6 weeks of annual payed leave( 42 days) thatís law!
basically gets U down to max 42% tax. Tricky to compare with other countries.
and I repeat in spite of this correction : do not apply for this company

Newcomer2 5th Sep 2019 22:00

Tcas69,
the figures I gave are gross per year and already include the 13th and 14th month. Whether you divide 98000 euros gross by 12 or by 14, it's still 98000 euros gross per year for a captain, whatever that makes net in your pocket

Council Van 6th Sep 2019 08:22


Originally Posted by Aso (Post 10560707)
Sorry get your facts straight: the banana stories and similar non sense we got thanks to Boris the liar https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...s-followed-his

Social dumping is very high on the social agenda at both the EC and EASA thanks to Ryanair.... Only issue it takes time to ensure that all parties that negotiate (read unions, employers, states, etc) have agreed on a text that suits most.

So stop reading the Daily Mail and maybe ask your union what they are doing on this issue and ask what you can do!

So whilst you are busy lecturing every one about what they read you then point us in the direction of some equally agenda driven drivel whilst ignoring that EC Commission Regulation No 2257/94 did used to exist and included regulations about the size and shape of Banana's and Cucumbers. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ped-by-EU.html
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UAV689 6th Sep 2019 10:14

Rapidly apparent that lauds and sun are to be the lower cost arm of the lowest cost arm in Europe...

its a a massive rinse and repeat job, with some ex architects of ryr parachuted into lauda, even
offering jobs to cadets that applied to ryr now switched to lauda and Christ knows what terms..

whilst at at the same time closing Spanish bases and replacing them with lauda or sun crews.


CaptainProp 6th Sep 2019 11:54

......and still they never run out of applications......unbelievable.....

CP

Newcomer2 6th Sep 2019 14:52

And the unions doing...nothing


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