Laudamotion
Morning lads.
T&C about this airline ? |
Go to Career.aero, you can find it in the download section after your application. good luck! |
the CBA (for Austria) can be found here:
https://www.kollektivvertrag.at/kv/l...rm=laudamotion (use google translator as appropriate) |
Is German a prerequisite? Are they recruiting?
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Yes they do, only type rated and only for Vienna
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Latest info from HR yesterday: they are not recuiting at the moment.
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Originally Posted by 180Knots
(Post 10416526)
Morning lads.
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Originally Posted by eiffel
(Post 10424749)
Is everyone on prune male?
Originally Posted by VJW
(Post 10424509)
Latest info from HR yesterday: they are not recuiting at the moment.
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Originally Posted by 180Knots
(Post 10425036)
I hope no! Was I "unpolite" !?!?
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Vjw come on lighten up |
Originally Posted by A320baby
(Post 10425481)
Vjw come on lighten up |
Originally Posted by eiffel
(Post 10424509)
Latest info from HR yesterday: they are not recuiting at the moment.
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Recruitment emails and ads doesn’t necessarily mean a company is currently hiring. CP |
Lauda motion
Hi guys. I’m pretty new on the community since I’m working for a company which has not to me mentioned in this pilots forum. I’m currently looking to relocate back to Europe and, being an A320 Captain, I checked which are the options around the Old continent. Any of you can share fresh news about Lauda motion? Is it a good company? Is it worth to work for it? How is the assessment process? Any info will be much appreciated, thanks to all. |
Hi guys. Anyone in the community has fresh info regarding working conditions: roster, payroll, environment? Any update will be much appreciated |
Job advert for pmi stated 95k euro for capt, that was based on 900hrs a yr, 5/3 5/2 roster. Sounds awful and clearly lauda and buzz are going to be the threat to existing crews to accept even worse terms |
For Capt. 75h per month expect 98000 euros per year in Palma and 10700 in Vienna, gross. Expect half of it after taxes (they have to be paid in Austria either way) so between 4100 and 4500 per month |
Originally Posted by UAV689
(Post 10558893)
Job advert for pmi stated 95k euro for capt, that was based on 900hrs a yr, 5/3 5/2 roster. Sounds awful and clearly lauda and buzz are going to be the threat to existing crews to accept even worse terms |
Hi Newcomer2. Do you know how much is the taxation in Austria? It seems to be a super low salary for 75h....I thougth was allined with Ryanair payroll |
Originally Posted by ciccinovolante
(Post 10559049)
Hi Newcomer2. Do you know how much is the taxation in Austria? It seems to be a super low salary for 75h....I thougth was allined with Ryanair payroll You can also compare the gross salaries and you will see that the conditions are definitely not the same: the total package for a ryanair captain in Spain is around 154000 euros per year, in Lauda based in Palma (same country!) it's 98000, so 37% less. There's a reason why ryanair is stopping the recruitment and closing bases, it's a management tactic to transfer the flights to their other airlines where the conditions are worse. Capitalism at its best... |
Just For You VJW!!
Originally Posted by VJW
(Post 10425658)
As I said, it appears it was unintentional, however I don't have to lighten up if I feel someone is being sexist..
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Also for VJW
Originally Posted by VJW
(Post 10425658)
As I said, it appears it was unintentional, however I don't have to lighten up if I feel someone is being sexist..
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Sorry I don't speak German, but using google translate I understand that 4 pilots were fired because they made some ASRs, and that the airline is now under investigation, is that correct? |
Austro Control examines error culture at Laudamotion
The four pilots were former Head of Flight Operations, Head of Training Departement, Vice Head of Training Departement and Chief Technical Pilot. |
Originally Posted by gearlever
(Post 10559315)
Austro Control examines error culture at Laudamotion
The four pilots were former Head of Flight Operations, Head of Training Departement, Vice Head of Training Departement and Chief Technical Pilot. |
Originally Posted by sonicbum
(Post 10559329)
The apple does not fall too far from the tree I guess.
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Application ban on Lauda motion, buzz and Ryanair Sun
Originally Posted by BoeingLudo737
(Post 10559771)
Give it up, you are ridiculous
Don,t accept their crappy conditions, even much worser than Ryanair itself. Again a evasive tactic from O leary and his scum management: closing bases where the unions did fight for market conform conditions and instead serving these bases with their freshly launched new airlines, Lauda Motion, Buzz, Air Malta and Ryanair Sun with much lower salaries. No pilot or cabin crew should accept these insult terms and conditiins, by simply not applying at all. And again it is made clear that all pilot and cabin crew union from each individual (European) state should merge together and make one big common protest at EU commision level to stop these slavery conditions. It is high time that the low fare race to the bottom is being stopped!! It is a fact that in the USA the conditions are much better, thanks to a very strong union who continues fighting hard for the conditions their union members deserve! |
El Capitano,
well said, I fully agree. Sad the EU Commission cares about the shape of bananas but concerning working conditions in aviation they seem like a toothless tiger to me. |
I agree. The fact the EU is permitting this is just ridiculous. |
EU? No thank you
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Originally Posted by gearlever
(Post 10560202)
El Capitano,
well said, I fully agree. Sad the EU Commission cares about the shape of bananas but concerning working conditions in aviation they seem like a toothless tiger to me. Social dumping is very high on the social agenda at both the EC and EASA thanks to Ryanair.... Only issue it takes time to ensure that all parties that negotiate (read unions, employers, states, etc) have agreed on a text that suits most. So stop reading the Daily Mail and maybe ask your union what they are doing on this issue and ask what you can do! |
Well of course you can join, get a type rating and some experience and just move on. Maybe thats what they want. Seems a silly way to run an airline to me but once a pilot has enough jet time they will just move on for better paying jobs.
These rubbish paying LCC operators will be in a state of perpetual hiring which seems crazy. |
Originally Posted by TinFoilhat
(Post 10560724)
Well of course you can join, get a type rating and some experience and just move on. Maybe thats what they want. Seems a silly way to run an airline to me but once a pilot has enough jet time they will just move on for better paying jobs.
These rubbish paying LCC operators will be in a state of perpetual hiring which seems crazy. CP |
Originally Posted by Newcomer2
(Post 10559180)
Taxation in Austria is really high, about 50% of your gross salary. There are online tax calculators as well, they give the same figures. You can also compare the gross salaries and you will see that the conditions are definitely not the same: the total package for a ryanair captain in Spain is around 154000 euros per year, in Lauda based in Palma (same country!) it's 98000, so 37% less. There's a reason why ryanair is stopping the recruitment and closing bases, it's a management tactic to transfer the flights to their other airlines where the conditions are worse. Capitalism at its best... having said that there are many special tricks in Austria which bring the taxrate down! Evrybody gets 14 monthly salaries (13/14 in June/November) Urlaubsgeld/Christmasbonus taxed at 6! Percent that’s law! 6 weeks of annual payed leave( 42 days) that’s law! basically gets U down to max 42% tax. Tricky to compare with other countries. and I repeat in spite of this correction : do not apply for this company |
Tcas69, the figures I gave are gross per year and already include the 13th and 14th month. Whether you divide 98000 euros gross by 12 or by 14, it's still 98000 euros gross per year for a captain, whatever that makes net in your pocket |
Originally Posted by Aso
(Post 10560707)
Sorry get your facts straight: the banana stories and similar non sense we got thanks to Boris the liar https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...s-followed-his
Social dumping is very high on the social agenda at both the EC and EASA thanks to Ryanair.... Only issue it takes time to ensure that all parties that negotiate (read unions, employers, states, etc) have agreed on a text that suits most. So stop reading the Daily Mail and maybe ask your union what they are doing on this issue and ask what you can do! |
Rapidly apparent that lauds and sun are to be the lower cost arm of the lowest cost arm in Europe... its a a massive rinse and repeat job, with some ex architects of ryr parachuted into lauda, even offering jobs to cadets that applied to ryr now switched to lauda and Christ knows what terms.. whilst at at the same time closing Spanish bases and replacing them with lauda or sun crews. |
......and still they never run out of applications......unbelievable..... CP |
And the unions doing...nothing |
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