Good on you Marcus, and good on Jet2. :)

I second that.

I was lucky enough to have HSBC bankroll my training before 9/11, followed by a (then) small airline taking a chance on me with only 170 hours total flying experience.

Without that opportunity I wouldn't be here - so it's nice to see Marcus is benefitting from one of the few opportunities to get a foot on the ladder without a financial benefactor (although there's nothing wrong with that either I may add - you play the cards you are dealt with of course).

Good luck and look forward to flying the line with you in the future! :ok:

Hi

Please can someone tell me what time to command is at Jet2.

High houred rated guy. 10000hrs TT. 2000NG. 4000 756. All RHS.

Thanks

Jet2 is a "meritocracy", once you have the required hours you apply for Command, are then assessed and finally go through the Command process. So, the answer to your question is that it depends on your ability. Without previous Command experience you would join as an FO, it's then down to you, there is no reason why you couldn't get a Command within 12 months providing you make the required standards.

Tell that to any one of the numerous command ready people that have either recently left or are in the process of leaving. From what I gather, the current command selection procedure is in the process of being looked at and re-written.

With 10k hours you'll certainly have no problem with the 3000 Factored Hours required and would appear experienced enough to handle a mature and sensible command assessment....when one is written.

2 stripes until 6 months from final line check, then you can apply for SFO and Command at the same time. Both of which go to a selection panel for review.

Good luck!

Hi Guys,
Anybody Knows the average take home for DEC? I´m considering to apply for B737 DEC. Is it possible to be Based in ALC for flying the NG in the future?

I've heard that NTR bods are being dealt with first as they take longer to get on line.

Stick with it.

737 CL, average take home could be anywhere between about 4200 to 5400 - winter/summer/base/pension etc. dependent.

Forgot to say you will probably get an ALC base of you want but there's no NG there at the moment.

Is that after the raid to the sandpit will be over? NTR, no-jet, every other box ticked.

Same reply/situation R_R (which is at the opposite end of the spectrum)...and likewise 2011. Application received since >6 weeks.

Headless chickens spring to mind...

DK :(

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Does anyone know what or if there's a significance between 'application received' and 'under review' in the application status ? (Apart from the pure English meanings of the phrases!)

Thanks

Have any non rated FO applicants been called for interview? If so what types are they coming off ie Airbus, dash 8-400 etc, larger types?

Pin head

Tried to send you a PM but your inbox is full.

Really?

You'll have to excuse my scepticism but when I spoke to Phillip about 6 weeks ago there was zero understanding, just got talked at with a sales pitch and told how lucky we were to have a job......what's changed? (that's a serious question, not sarcasm)

Ha Ha Ha......

Well done "Silverhawk"..... 2 Whites 2 Reds obviously doesn't know of your "connection"
Hook, Line and Sinker comes to mind.

Cream rises....and **** floats !

PM and jet2
 

Silver hawk, nice wind up!!
Hope you are using the correct HiVis now.

I wasn't aware of Silverhawk's identity or his "connection", but I am now.....:ugh::ugh::ugh:

When the big man PM told me he had one of the best tasting toasties he's had in a very long time onboard his LBA-ALC flight, I shut off after that.

I have to say when you talk to the big man, you do get a sales pitch.

When PM appeared on our flight, he spent a good 10 mins delivering what was a pleasant enough but very patronising sales pitch. We were told over and over how lucky we were to have a job and that he's a firm believer in remunerating people well as paying below market money only leads to experienced people leaving. While doing so he made reference to MON Engineering losing experienced engineers due to a dive in T's and C's.....

All of this with no sense of irony at all. My colleague and I starred blankly at each other and laughed all the way home. Unreal.

Is it that unbelievable?

There's alot of experienced pilots out there looking for a way home. Jet2 isn't the only option at the moment though although if your heart is set on a particular base then it might well be.

The standard of the apprentices I have flown with has been excellent, without exception. However you can't expand an airline without bringing in experience.

Jet2 needs pilots and the Middle east has plenty of pilots wanting a UK job. Sounds like an innovative and entirely logical idea to me. I'm sure they'll bring home a big wodge of CVs.

But Ryanair want guys to pay for the 737 rating and won't commit to your base of choice on the contract.

You won't get many experienced guys who: (1) are prepared to pay for a 737 rating and (2) prepared to go any base other than North UK / Scotland or wherever is home.

Sure - it's significantly less pay - but as long as it's enough to get by, then taking the family to your home base is too good an opportunity to turn down for many.

I too know guys who got their base of choice with RYR - but they were all rated 737 guys ex-RYR who were offered the chance to return as DECs from being FOs in EK.

The opportunity that Jet2 are presenting is to experienced EK current Captains not rated on the 737/757 who want to come home to the North UK / Scotland / NI. For them it's a case of compromising on the money, in return for a base that's written in stone on the contract - which Ryanair just won't do for NTR DECs at the moment. Maybe that will change in the future if they are short enough of crew.

I know that there are a fair few EK DECs wanting home right now, even with the pay cut. Some will want to wait a few years, some are ready to jump ship now. I'm one of the ones packed up ready to go.

And of course it'll appeal to those who want to come home regardless of what base they're offered because Jet2 will be a conduit just to get back to the UK, once here they can then move on if they require. Being 4,000 miles away from home or a few hundred is a no brainer. I know which one I'd take.

No moving on for me though... just want my base and prepared to put in the hard hours in the summer and relax a bit in the winter. They can do what they like to me at work, as long as they pay me enough to have a reasonable life and I'm able to play with my kids in the countryside every evening or so.

In addition to that - I'll be sleeping in my own bed rather than a torpedo tube in the economy cabin, and sleeping at night-time instead of departing at 3am every shift listening to Mumbai HF for entertainment.

:ok:

I think I could handle long-haul at 70 hours a month, but mixing the long and short-haul and Ultra-long-range stuff at 95 hours a month has taken it's toll. :yuk:

Jet2 could get all the type rated FOs they need from the KLS pool. I've been operating with several of them recently and am very impressed. A much better product than EMT turn out for RYR.

Captains are a different story. The only way to attract them is with much more money. The current market rate for experienced Captains is massively more than Jet2 pays.

I do miss Jet2 and especially the Blackpool base, but since I left in 2009, I have been to a lot of great places and made a lot of new friends and a whole lot more money. It is a stable place to work, but no one there will be as rich as an airline pilot should be.

Btw, on the rare occasion I wear a hivis, I still use that same one. Cheers.

Have any NTR FOs been offered a 100% contract recently or is it all 70% at the moment?

Have non rated FO applicants been invited to interview recently? If so from which carriers and types ie heavier types like the dash 400?

Yes NTR applicants have been to interview and have gone through the assessments, from 777 to dash to jetstream. I was one but am in a strange situation and looking for some advice from any current Jet2 guys, particularly any SO in the recruitment dep. I passed the interview but was sent home due to the lack of sim slots on the day and am currently waiting to hear back from the HR guy. Its been two weeks now and not heard anything, emailed last week and no reply, I'm happy to keep waiting but just concerned my emails might not have been picked up for whatever reason. Any advice or is it a case of we'll call you....

'Phone them ASAP. .

But bear in mind that the person you need to speak to is currently in the Land of Sand on the recruitment seminars.

Regardless of that you get screened by someone prior to being put through to HR..:ugh:

Yeah I gather the top man is away so I will give it until the end of the month before I start calling. In fairness as annoying as it was to not get it all done on the day the process seemed very straight forward and everyone was very friendly and helpful. Only advice I can really give to anyone applying is that if you stay in the hotel across the road make sure you order the full set of hot chicken wings and not the half portion.... you get a free pint with the full portion! :I :)

you're suppose to drown your sorrows after ... you see the terms and conditions. Good luck though, chicken wings is all you will be eating once your on " that" salary

Hi cgwhitemonk11, apologies you have had to wait, however, if you contact me at [email protected] I will make sure you get a response on Monday 24th August with SIM slot availability.

Hi,

Can someone please post the DEC Captain salary?
ppjn mentions £82000 basic but I've also heard its £89000

How much realistically is sector pay worth?
Do the company contribute to a pension?if so how much?

I heard a 8-10% pay rise might be round the corner?

For non rated DEC, the 75% is for one year or 6 months?

Thanks

I think it is closer to £84,000 basic. We had a 3% lift in April. I don't think there is any truth in the pay rise being missed if you haven't been signed off, certainly not something I have ever heard.

The sector and duty pay does add up. I put about 5% into the pension and my take one is around £4,600 in the winter and gernally over £5,000 in the summer.

Salary 100% Captain is £83,581.

Duty/Sector varies but summer roughly +£1k pm and winter couple £100 pm.

Non TR DEC it's 70% for some 100% for others with no pattern as to who get's what. 70% lasts as long as it lasts, sometimes as long as 15 months.

Wild rumors of payrise, BALPA are trying for 6% but the reality may be something different!

What is the story with the 50% salary during training? Does that apply to NTR DEC as well?

Yes, unfortunately. There is now a time limit for how long you stay on it if you haven't finished your training, I believe it's 13 weeks maximum.

Pilotinfo
 

Just noticed your message now, thanks a lot I got an invitation earlier in the week, just waiting for confirmation.
Cheers!

50% of 100% basic pay until FLC or 13 weeks whichever sooner. Flight and duty pay on top during line training.