Good addition^

Anyway, has anyone heard anything yet? Maybe theyre waiting until the job closes and then evaluate everyone? Any news?

Most likely fleet replacement for the 300's and just a few 300's left for the mail. So that's probably why they don't need 27 aircrafts worth of new crew. I don't think window blinds are very important but a commitment to 27 new aircraft is surely something to be happy about?

I don't think commitment was ever in question, with the general expansion of recent years. This is a game change, though.
Still, the City seems happy with it, so who am I?

Tonker

Paddington said he was a current Jet 2 Captain.

16024- window blinds are important- that's why they are fitted. Do you not fly your aircraft with passenger comfort in mind? Maybe you do but at the same time the poor passengers in the back are cooking like roasted chickens. I have used J2 many times and each time I'm told that the crew are happy to help and it's all about me! All I ask is stop cooking me. 32 degrees in Ibiza about a month ago on the scorching Tarmac and I'm sitting sun side of the Aeroplane. I put the safety card in the window to prevent myself sizzling and some jumped up 40 plus Cabin Attendent tells me to remove it. I tell him that I am cooking and I get told to be quiet or the police will be called! Happy to help me get removed.
The blinds are an important part of the aircraft and should not be removed. Whoever even suggested it needs to be kicked up the backside. Did anybody carry out a risk Assesment? I bet not. You lot should try to learn from Airlines that have been around the block a bit - check them out next time down route on a hot day with the sun shining. You will see all the blinds are down sun side keeping the cabin cool. You'll be turning off the Air-conditioning next to save a few more pennies.

That's an interesting story.
Why was it directed at me?

Actually 16024 it has nothing to do with your comment and is not an interesting story because it is b***** and has nothing whatsoever to do with a pilot forum. Troll alert.

Window blinds.
 

Quote. Actually 16024 it has nothing to do with your comment and is not an interesting story because it is b***** and has nothing whatsoever to do with a pilot forum. Troll alert.

That's a bit harsh IMO
Actually from the pax point of view a cool environment is very nice. As a 75 Captain I do keep the aircraft cool as far as I can. Window blinds do help. It keeps tempers from running wild.
PM and his minion's obsession with saving a few pennies, (and yes I know all the arguments about running the apu/packs on the ground and the cost of a tonne of fuel) is fruitless.
PM knows the cost of every thing but the value of nothing!

Weathergirly - then you should be happy with the new announcement. The more 800's the less chance of you sweating down the back. The 300's AC packs aren't as efficient as the 800 - there are no cooling issues on the 800, even in 32 degrees on the ground.

I assume you were on a 300, and if it's any consolation, it gets just as hot in the front, there literally is nothing the crew can do - yes, window blinds would help in this situation, but alas, we don't have them.

I think you will find that the overheating of cabins is problem with the 300 aircraft, which is being addressed by th purchase of 800 models:ok:

Cooling
 

The efficiency of the packs on the -300 is irrelevant if the SOP is to not have the APU running! As for heat in the front, try turning off the window heat.

Good job it's not SOP to not have the APU running when it's hot then.

Jet2 Now re advertising for DEC/DEFO type rate applicants only. Apparently they considering 777 as rated. Most 'bus guys getting PFO emails, regardless of experience.
No desperate, actually as picky as ever. Stock market woes should sort this company out .

Chesty
 

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Define SOP hot! No there isn't one.

Nobody I know would be daft enough to switch the APU off on a -300 down route with temperatures higher than low twenties.

If you've got ground conditioning, then of course you'd use it and not the APU, but if not, the APU stays running. Even then, the amount of cooling is inadequate but it's better than nothing.

I can't recall seeing an SOP stating that we must shut down the APU on every turnaround, and even if there was, common sense should prevail.

APU use
 

Quote: "I can't recall seeing an SOP stating that we must shut down the APU on every turnaround, and even if there was, common sense should prevail"

Well I am a regular traveller (2x per month) on a -300 route to southern France. On to stand GPU in, APU OFF. Pax swelter, CC swelter on the T/R, oncoming pax being toasted in the finger as the incoming pax leave. On two occasions have had to divert to Marseilles, same deal No APU whilst crew talk to Mission control.
Perhaps the common sense store was closed on these days?

Or maybe we can get back to talking about Jet2 recruitment. :-)

Jet2
 

As it used to say on old charts: Here there be Dragons

Hot is subjective so I can't define it. When I decide as the captain that I need air condition the APU stays on. That is the policy. There is no SOP to
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APU
 

Well done you!

Sorry to continue the APU off/on for one more post, but please bear in mind that there are many airports where APU use is banned from a short period after on blocks to a similar short period prior to push and start. I assume Ivan that you are referring to Nice, I'm afraid that is one such destination.

For knowing what I'm talking about?

JFP, if the airport requires the APU to be shut down they should supply conditioned air, if there's no air available there's usually a caveat that the APU can stay on. What's the case in Nice?

Inferring we have no consideration for passenger comfort is toss. I have wandered after ground crew on a number of occasions to get them to plug the air con in, and it is the reason we all got trained on the 300 to freeze the cabin in descent. At least new 800s will make the situation better.

As for it being SOP to turn the APU off.. It is. But if its too hot, we have the authority and backing of the company to deviate, as does every single pilot worldwide regardless of airline. Its called judgement.

Loving the multi-page APU ON/OFF debate!

Seriously chaps, get a grip.

Jet2 Autumn 2014
 

This is not the place for an APU on/off debate. Can we knock it on the head please.

Where the hell are the moderators

Probably laughing at you Jet2 clowns!

Is that a joke?

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/airli...ndrew-schmertz

The new aircraft are great news, but ultimately i'd rather be just as happy on something older, on more money, with a better pension, eating crew food in a spanking uniform whilst thinking about where I'm going to enjoy my staff travel.

Or brand new, and all of the above.

So you failed the BA selection?

@Trytofly
 

Probably working or spending time with family and or friends or even maybe having a pint.
None of us spend all day constantly refreshing.

Use the report post button.
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:D @Honiley ;)

Of all the things that Jet2 pilots "moan" about, a lack of shiny new NGs is towards the bottom of a very long list. So no, probably not!

scratching....

As Artie rightly says and as I'm sure you know, shiny new aircraft is something that's a VERY long way down the list of things that people want. I'm genuinely pleased that the business is moving forward with the first steps towards fleet renewal while adding some capacity to the flying program. That being said, the financial pressures that come with new aircraft will pose a whole new challenge for the big wigs at LFFH and I'm pretty certain those at the coal face will suffer as a result. After all, the shareholders will be expecting a serious return on this enormous capital expenditure.

At a time when morale is through the floor and people on both sides of the door are either leaving or seriously looking to leave, I for one would be rather troubled if it came to light that any level of management were naive enough to believe that announcing some replacement 737's will make people think twice before hitting the 'submit' button on their BA, TOM, TCX, , FR, EK, TAG et al applications. Just my two cents worth and time will of course tell.

Interestingly (or not) Jet2 still sending out emails re exciting opportunities for rated/ none rated DE crews. I know guys who have thousands of CM1 time that have heard zero, despite completing the assessments. Not even a PFO.

infant they are still receiving the same emails, re exciting opportunities.
.Its a Bizarre flying world we live in. Little choice. So impersonal. :=

Hi guys,

Apologies if this has been covered before, but just wondered, after training and on a 100% contract, what sort of monthly take home pay can a year 1 FO expect? I see the basic salary is about £50k.. What sort of money does hourly flight pay add on etc?

Expect £3200 ish in the Summer, £2850 ish in the Winter. (After pension contribution)

Road shows gathering pace, there's one planned at EMA now. Competitive salary on offer apparently.

What about the great benefits package?

Jet2 Autumn 2014
 

Tonker even if u did have a better salary, pension, food, staff travel and new aeroplanes you would still moan because that's what (British) pilots do best. Only if you have been made redundant x times do you realise how lucky you are to have a salary paid on time. Many crews I suspect see Jet2 as a moving on to better things airline particularly FO's and some see it as a career airline depending on their own situ. Fact is UK AOC's are ever dwindling and I personally think it's great Jet2 are buying something new probably for the first time in its history. There are also a lot of guys and girls who work twice as hard as you Nigel's and on a lot less pay. Although they are probably used to moaning Nigel's many who have joined recently only to realise that the grass is not so green and cor blimey there's a lot of roster disruption at Jet2 would you believe. The only good news is in what say six weeks you'll be moaning your not flying and got too many standbys
Rant over

Jet2 Autumn 2014
 

Twiglet,
I had retired but I decided to come back one last time. The only people who are happy at jet2 are those that have been made redundant multiple times. It can't get no worse. Except being made redundant again (just it can). Everyone else either wants to leave or hasn't yet realised that.

Me I work less earn more have a better pension, see my family more and most importantly, My roster isn't a wet rag for screwing to play target practice with.

Oh and Mr good cat. When those rose tinted glasses finally wear off. Don't come crying here. You'll have the same bar stewards as managers but with only half the cash.

Does anybody know the situation regarding annual leave at Jet2 for new recruits, is this available to take anytime of the summer or are new recruits made to take leave in the quiet winter period?

I believe you'll be bound by the same rules as everyone else - that is max 9 days in the summer. Depending when you join, you may be too late for the closed bidding, so might have to try your luck with free bidding (there is very little leave available in the summer during the free bidding period).