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GS-Alpha 18th May 2019 09:51

I am curious to see what will happen when global constraints and crew repair goes senior in a few months time. At the moment the junior are being worked hard as a result of those mechanisms, but when they become hours restricted, GC and CR will have to go much further up the seniority!

The Blu Riband 18th May 2019 10:05

schadenfreude?

Jumbo2 18th May 2019 11:03


Originally Posted by GS-Alpha (Post 10474134)
I am curious to see what will happen when global constraints and crew repair goes senior in a few months time. At the moment the junior are being worked hard as a result of those mechanisms, but when they become hours restricted, GC and CR will have to go much further up the seniority!

Goes further up the seniority?!? Looking at Yammer and the BALPA forum it has already hit <25% from the top on the A320 and B777 fleets. I don't think the senior guys are doing any less hours then the Junior guys since JSS, the problem with JSS is unlike under bidline, if a fleet is short of pilots the whole fleet of pilots will get hit by Global Constraints, while JSS will still make sure there is barely any uncovered work.

RexBanner 18th May 2019 12:24

Concur with Wiggy, you want to take any potential Long Haul roster you have been shown on a roadshow with a huge pinch of salt. I’m taking it they haven’t been advertising the most recent JSS rosters for those junior particularly on the 777 & 747 fleets.

king surf 22nd May 2019 10:36

Interesting that there are more people leaving with seniority numbers above 3500 than those naturally reaching retirement date some with numbers above 4300.
i think JSS has been a game changer for many and looking at junior rosters they look unsustainable in the long term.
cant believe it was voted for.


GS-Alpha 22nd May 2019 12:30

It is very easy to understand why it was voted in - BALPA recommended it. Within BA, pretty much all ballots go the way BALPA recommends. A very large proportion of the membership cannot even be bothered to read the detail of what they are voting for.

I agree with your point about the sustainability of rosters at the bottom of JSS. BALPA are desperately tweaking inhibitors in an attempt to find a solution which is not as drastic as rolling seniority, but it has not really worked so far. I think the time will come where they have to at least vary the block of seniority affected by global constraints and crew repair. Hitting the same people over and over and over with extra work is not going to be tolerated in the long term. In the past, extra work was given to those who were not working so hard. With JSS, extra work is going to those at the bottom until they can work no harder, regardless of how hard the senior guys are working. That is inefficient rostering and will lead to sickness at the bottom, which will lead to more inefficiency. BA will not accept that and will demand solutions.

king surf 22nd May 2019 12:42

Ai I said before time will tell but I think BA need to address JSS issues sooner rather than later. It might work for those at the top but falls way short of giving a junior pilot a reasonable roster.

Daddy Fantastic 29th May 2019 01:59

What are the chances of a new hire with enough time for upgrade on the A320 getting LHR instead of LGW purely for the fact they could possibly be commuting so would prefer tours instead of coming back most nights like I believe is what happens at LGW.

Also what are pilots likely to end up on that are accepted in the DEP program? Is there room to negotiate which fleet you would like. I would prefer 320 to long haul as a commuter.

Im only going on my experience which is 6000 hours and 3000 plus jet hours, 2000 plus twin turboprop hours.

Any input is much appreciated.

Lafyar Cokov 29th May 2019 12:43


Anyone know what the constraints are for reapplication? Receiving mixed messages. Thank you.

If you have taken the Maths/Verbal Reasoning/Aptitude tests then its 12 months from then - if you didn't get that far then its 6 months....

737275 31st May 2019 18:05

Can anyone shed some light on the reapplication process? I’m just coming up on a year since an unsuccessful assesment, and hoping to re apply. Dose the website just free you up to reapply, or is there something else that needs to be done. Any info appreciated.

rotordisk 31st May 2019 23:05

I applied in December but I didn't get a reply.. It says that I can't apply now..

CXKA 1st Jun 2019 06:50


Originally Posted by rotordisk (Post 10483871)
I applied in December but I didn't get a reply.. It says that I can't apply now..

You should only have a 12 month embargo if you attended one of the stages at Waterside or the Sim Centre and were not successful, the clock starts I believe is from the date of your last stage.

Best of luck

red9 1st Jun 2019 08:17

I heard there has been some mass resignations on B777 recently ?

Cattivo 1st Jun 2019 10:18


Originally Posted by 99jolegg (Post 10473380)
CL - compassionate leave
LA - annual leave with wraparound days after x4
LB - annual leave with wraparound days before x3
WR - wrap around days off (workable)
BW - bank withdrawal
SW - not sure off the top of my head
S2, S3, S4, S5 - simulator. The number refers to the time slot. I2, I3, I4, I5 would refer to the instructor’s roster.
NA - non-assignable day associated with DD usually
DD - duty free week associated with NA day at the beginning. Can be worked in if desired.
ZZ - break, usually to denote days off after a trip on reserve
RP - reserve period
PR - protected day off, for a variety of reasons
PL - not sure EDIT: paternity leave
PD - part-time days off
GT - ground training e.g. SEP
GD - ground duty
LFS - Leading Flight Safety course
FDO - fixed days off associated with a reserve period
HSB - HSB associated with a reserve period

Depending on the roster format you’re looking at but you can usually tell by the destinations.

SW = Swap
PL = Parental Leave ie annual allowance, unpaid

rotordisk 1st Jun 2019 11:28


Originally Posted by CXKA (Post 10484000)
You should only have a 12 month embargo if you attended one of the stages at Waterside or the Sim Centre and were not successful, the clock starts I believe is from the date of your last stage.

Best of luck

I didn’t attend any stage and I did not even get a response.
The only thing I got was a confirmation that my application had been submitted.

Jumbo2 1st Jun 2019 15:45


Originally Posted by rotordisk (Post 10484135)


I didn’t attend any stage and I did not even get a response.
The only thing I got was a confirmation that my application had been submitted.

It might be your application is still in the pipeline to be reviewed. Maybe send recruitment an email or give them a ring. They are a really friendly bunch who are very helpful and understanding.

rotordisk 1st Jun 2019 15:58


Originally Posted by Jumbo2 (Post 10484260)
It might be your application is still in the pipeline to be reviewed. Maybe send recruitment an email or give them a ring. They are a really friendly bunch who are very helpful and understanding.

thanks
Do you know what the application status should say when I have been rejected? On the BA job website.

TheAirMission 1st Jun 2019 17:16

Recruitment automatic email FAQs:

I was unsuccessful at a previous British Airways recruitment application, when can I reapply?

If you had stumbled at the initial online application screening stage, you would be eligible to apply again after 6 months. If you attended Waterside for any of the subsequent selection stages, the wait is 12 months from the date of testing, or 6 months from any other stage of application whichever is the greater.


Mrglass 2nd Jun 2019 09:27

Maybe not the ideal thread for this queation, but how will the LHR ULEZ affect BA employees and their ability to park at LHR?

Are BA employees essentially going to have to pay to go to work and park in a private vehicle?

Has this issue been raised internally or by the Union?

Just curious.

Thanks.

wiggy 2nd Jun 2019 11:09

I think you are correct AH....Heathrow media statement here.

As I understand it from other sources those working at the airport will be exempt from the charges.





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