Happiness
 

Rat,

I concur with your statement. I took a leave of absence due to this. My reason has left the company. (It was a clash of nationalities!) I hope to return at the beginning of the next Summer season.

Parc Aviation are currently recruiting on behalf of Air Contractors to fly Ryanair routes out of DUB. But there's no shortage :}

I have never regretted leaving Ryanair for a second. And never missed Ryanair since I left. I still know many people in Ryanair of which most want to get out. None have come across anyone who got hired back. And lets face it, you have to be totally desperate or completely miserable and insane if you go back to this bunch. Nothing ever got better in Ryanair, so why go back? I did hear of people receiving a phone call from Dublin asking if they wanted to come back, but all I know or heard of said big fat no. So would I. I think I might honestly rather get out of aviation than fly again for this bunch.

And in context with 'The grass isn't always greener'; well, there seems to be more actual grass outside Ryanair, with Dublin in this case being more of a desert than for example the Middle East. ;)

I know many that have left over the last few years, and without exception they are extremely glad they did. I have not heard of a single person wanting to come back. While it is possible the exist, they'd be few and far between. The company have always made it clear that if you leave, it's for good, but I have been told by one or two old hands that exceptions are sometimes made, and the manner of the dismount is crucial. There's nothing unusual in that - many companies won't rehire resignees for the reasons already given. But don't believe for a minute that there are queues of them trying to return.

The thing is leaving an Airline is highly contagious because of the competitive nature of Pilots. 10% can grow rapidly to 30%. If it's trainers and experienced pilots are leaving this can cause a major Problem. I know one Airline that went out of business in the 90's exactly for this reason.

If it is true that some pilots who have left Ryanair want to rejoin - what are the reasons for wanting to return? Where did they go that was worse to think that the greener grass is back at Ryanair?

Some of the ones who went to SAS are trying to come back.

Over the years, I can count in one hand the number of people who have returned to FR for a second bout. I will add that three of the aforementioned left again, obviously having enjoyed the experience so much on the first occasion! All of those were Captains, two decided to go back to the RHS long haul jobs that they had initially left for.

I am aware of one ex-skipper in the ME who would come back, however only if all roads home became exhausted. Remember, there appears to be the increasing likelihood of former FR skippers who have migrated east being hired back west as DECs at Norwegian.

With a new Director of Flight Ops, the policy for returnees may change; especially relating to command ready FOs. It all depends how many bites of the carrot that they get I suppose?

The vast majority join RYR as a result of limited/no choice, i.e. newbies and no one can blame them.

A colleague has told me that one of his closest mates is hesitating between taking his Command (which is being offered on a take-it-or-leave- it Ryanair contract . . .no option to continue as a Contractor) or leave to join NAS.

His expected total net monthly will be 4200€, I am assured this is accurate.

This being the case, and given that a Base Change to the ends of the earth is a foregone, I struggle to understand his hesitation.

€4200 = £3500 That's a junior FO's take home in my lot, it's amazing he is even considering the option. Shocking.

Type4
Some sas new pilots are trying to get back to RYR, shurely, smoking dope is not legal in Sas, or in Ryr .

Btv. Not much standby lately as I have heared in Ryr, wetlease, is also a thing.
Summer getting hot.

Blusdup, €2350 net, 2 weeks of layovers in rural scandinavian towns, company making huge losses and 15 years to command with practically no payrise... I can understand if they would rather go back and be upgraded within a year and live by the Mediterranean on a 5/4 and later join nas as a DEC.

Considering the way the terms and conditions have gone lately, even ryr is turning out to be a reasonable gig if you have an upcoming upgrade.

Somebody please explain to me:

If salaries in Europe are so poor why are you guys not doing commuting jobs in China?

I understand the medical issues but if you are a captain with reasonable experience under 40, the medical really should not be a problem for the majority. Simulator checking can be a problem as the Chinese have their own ideas but you can familiarize yourself with that, maybe have a go two or 3 times.

If you really need to be at home then negotiate with the Chinese agencies, you could probably work 1 week a month for 5000 euro's.

It is all certified tax paid at a rate of 40%. Leaves roughly nothing to pay in the UK.

Kungfu Panda, cash is not everything in life mate :ok:

Yes, well said. Spend 100,000 euro plus On your training then fly for free and fail to support your family. Very noble.

@PigeonVoyageur
 

"If this is genuine, I'll remove my previous post and submit my sincere apologies for having been completely wrong."

Check out the GTDaviation website and maybe hire a speechwriter for that big apology speech.

Those are totally ridiculous accusations Rex, I don't try to impose anything. The original post was a question of why wouldn't you take the better money with more time at home and quality of life that does not involve the serious permanent fatigue that Ryanair involves.

It baffles me that's all, not on any high horse or trying impose anything.

@Birdstrike737
 

Since last time, I've been following the news on the site and was waiting for the beginning of this month since this was the target date. No need to hire a speechwriter for this simple thing.

Since it looks like a genuine endeavour, I submit my sincere apologies towards the originators of this endeavour and to all Ryanair pilots. And as stated, I'm removing my disagreeable post.

As I stated in a later post, I'm all for any idea which can bring better T&C for Ryanair pilots and I wish them all success.

Hi guys, sorry the thread regarding Ryanair base placement has gone so just wanted to ask what basis are most popular outside the UK and Ireland. Is it hard to get a base on one of the Canary Islands or Majorca etc.? Or do people prefer busy central European bases?? Thanks guys.