Post the link to the advert..or has it gone?
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Is there any new revision to the T & C for SunExpress
As for the SXS is the hiring is still on going and Ankara is the only offered base for B737 800 DEC ? Gracias |
I heared that they increased the salary by around 600€ from the 1st of January on.
As far as I know initially all new pilots will be based in Ankara, but they can apply for a base change and some of them got Istanbul after 3 months in Ankara... |
SXS
I will have been getting my CPL after a few months. I will try to get hired by SXS. Can you compare and contrast two interview books:
Ace technical interview, Airline Pilot Interviews by Irv Jasinski Which one better? Additionally last news for SXS Turkey: They returned their 10 optional Max to firm orders, They get their new b737 b4 one or two days. they get hired FOs from THY in a temporary situation. |
I can just say that ACE is crap, full of faults.
Airline pilot interviews, the same. I have both of them. Both did not help me to get a job(and I had/have plenty of jobs). Why? Ace is simply outdated im my opinion, there are much better resources nowadays to get tech quiz questions and answers. The other one is tailored to the american market(glad to never had to get a major job over there after I had a read through this book). Useless for Europe and the middle east, might help for some asian companies as they have most likely the same sad ideas about how their new employee has to be. If you read Jasinkis book you know what I mean. Better option which helped me much more: Pick your airline, then try to get PM advice here over this forum. Other good source is for instance latestpilotsjobs.com(there are others, usually much more expensive), they have a very good tech(+ other) database that you have to pay for. But it is worth its money(better then both books). I think there is a database for SXS(I applied once for them, but actually never went for the interview, Turkey is not for me). On top they will send you a link for Mollymawk psych testing(free) where you can train for a bit to be prepared for their "german style box tests" which proofs that you are a top pilot :E . So there is actual a good chance that you pass this interview with a bit of preparation. One of my former collegues flies with them(Capt) seems to be happy. Hope that helped.... |
Sunexpress assesment
Hey how are you?
Could i ask you some questions about Sunexpress? I just got an invotation for the assesment. |
Originally Posted by Akden
(Post 9359694)
Hey how are you?
Could i ask you some questions about Sunexpress? I just got an invitation for the assesment. |
They accept non Turkish FOs only from one flight school in The Netherlands
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KongFlyer, not so hard. I met someone who succeeded in the process while not having graduated from University. Only secondary school.
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Captain.weird, that sounds great. The last thing I would want is to pass everything and complete the type rating, and then to have it all ripped away on the grounds of no uni degree.. Is it possible for you to get me in touch with the person who got in? :)
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You might be able to get in, but becoming captain without an university degree is fairly difficult in Turkey.
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@KongFlyer, no. I don't have any contact details of him.
@Safelife, I don't think so (anymore). Just one to two years ago that was indeed the case. But I know some guys who are a captain now w/out an uni degree in Turkey. When there is a need, there will always be some solutions ;-) . |
Hello all.
Currently trying to move on in my career, I d like to know if some of view have info about sun express turkey ? I m from Europe, and looking for DEC. How life in turkey recently ? I ve been told 3 weeks on 1 weeks off roster except for 3 months summer. T/C ... In MP if it is all secret ... Thanks all. |
Hi Guys,
- Which base could you expect for a DEC position? - How many days at home can you expect for a non commuting position? - What is the rent price of a nice apartment/house? - Is raw data flying allowed (without FDs)? Thank you and safe flights. |
According to the ex -SXS guys here:
Majority of DEC positions will be Ankara, slim chance of SAW, no chance of Antalya or Izmir. Non- commuting roster allows 2 double offs per month, these cannot be joined to give 4 days off. In low season you may request a triple off. In reality it is not possible to commute on non-commute contract. Apartments range from about 2500 TL a month but good area expect 3500. They fly 737-800 not C150 so Raw Data flying is not encouraged. All arrivals at ESB and SAW are procedural, very few visual approaches these days. Expect a mix of Open duties, earlier and lates. In high season maybe 3 night flights a month. Open duty is min rest at hotel, maybe just 2/ 3 hrs if lucky |
Originally Posted by Avenger
(Post 10356927)
They fly 737-800 not C150 so Raw Data flying is not encouraged. All arrivals at ESB and SAW are procedural, very few visual approaches these days.
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Thank you very much for the answers.
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Originally Posted by B738
(Post 10357434)
you ARE encouraged to fly Raw Data!! For sure you can not expect a lot of visual approaches into ESB or SAW but at the Anadolian destinations you are welcome to fly a visual approach or a Raw Data ILS or VOR approach as long as you are stabilized at 1000ft!
There are no rules or expectations on how to fly the aircraft whatsoever at SunExpress. Except for the SOPs of course, you are free to chose any MCP mode or simply handfly it as much as you like. Some airports, like the Anadolian ones (Trabzon, Kayseri, Elazig, Van, Diyarbakir) will let you fly visuals. |
Originally Posted by B738
(Post 10357434)
you ARE encouraged to fly Raw Data!! For sure you can not expect a lot of visual approaches into ESB or SAW but at the Anadolian destinations you are welcome to fly a visual approach or a Raw Data ILS or VOR approach as long as you are stabilized at 1000ft!
Originally Posted by lansen
(Post 10357735)
I can confirm this.
There are no rules or expectations on how to fly the aircraft whatsoever at SunExpress. Except for the SOPs of course, you are free to chose any MCP mode or simply handfly it as much as you like. Some airports, like the Anadolian ones (Trabzon, Kayseri, Elazig, Van, Diyarbakir) will let you fly visuals. Thank you for the replies. |
Originally Posted by midnight cruiser
(Post 10357881)
Hand flying and visuals is one thing - flight directors off is quite another - amateurish and poor airmanship. The Turkish terrain doesn't give second chances.
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Hey here.
Nothing related to hand flying skills ( it does but not directly ), I was supposed to start my TR with them last October but unlucky been postponed to January ( so now ) but I have no news. Is anyone waiting for TR too ? |
Originally Posted by midnight cruiser
(Post 10357881)
Hand flying and visuals is one thing - flight directors off is quite another - amateurish and poor airmanship. The Turkish terrain doesn't give second chances.
As already mentioned, in SXS they allow you to fly raw data at any time and a lot of people are doing this when the weather is good to stay current with basic IFR-flying! |
what came up on the assessment ? info... and details
Originally Posted by Akden
(Post 9359694)
Hey how are you?
Could i ask you some questions about Sunexpress? I just got an invotation for the assesment. please and thank you |
I would very much like to know that as well!
Anyone has any experience in the simulator assessment in particular that could be shared? Do they really stick to the scenarios laid out in the briefing pack, or will there be any surprises? |
Originally Posted by lhc7664
(Post 10427723)
I would very much like to know that as well!
Anyone has any experience in the simulator assessment in particular that could be shared? Do they really stick to the scenarios laid out in the briefing pack, or will there be any surprises? During the last weeks, Is there anybody who has already attended the sim check for SunExpress and would like to share its own experience? We all would really appreciate that. |
Originally Posted by Omis95
(Post 10454573)
Hello guys!
During the last weeks, Is there anybody who has already attended the sim check for SunExpress and would like to share its own experience? We all would really appreciate that. |
Originally Posted by lhc7664
(Post 10455244)
The sim is exactly as briefed. Very friendly training captain and fo! They wanna help you and get you through it, so no surprises. Everyone who attended the sim the same day as I passed. Think there were 8 total. |
Have anyone been through the board interview with SunExpress and kind enough to share some experience?
What sort of technical questions were asked? And how about the psychologist? What to expect from her? Thanks, |
I would like to ask if anyone knows that SunExpress pays during the type rating course? (Like a student salary or anything) Do they provide accommodation during type rating and where is it usually?
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For the NTR FO sim check, yes, it's really very, very close to the given scenario.
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FBW390 do you also know if a DME arc is flown out of AYT for the sim screening part?
Any tips regarding the interview? It seems there are a few of us in this thread who really would appreciate for info. Thank you! |
Originally Posted by seven37
(Post 10465128)
I would like to ask if anyone knows that SunExpress pays during the type rating course? (Like a student salary or anything) Do they provide accommodation during type rating and where is it usually?
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Guys it seems they do pay but don't expect it to be that much! Have you guys applied for SunExpress and been invited to the Mollymawk assessment in Antalya?
Thank you! |
Originally Posted by appfo09
(Post 10466341)
Guys it seems they do pay but don't expect it to be that much! Have you guys applied for SunExpress and been invited to the Mollymawk assessment in Antalya?
Thank you! |
Originally Posted by seven37
(Post 10465128)
I would like to ask if anyone knows that SunExpress pays during the type rating course? (Like a student salary or anything) Do they provide accommodation during type rating and where is it usually?
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Sorry for the late answer guys...No, there were no DME arcs to fly...
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Good morning everybody,
About the step 4 for SunExpress Turkey assessment : 1h30 interview with HR and Company Captain : does anybody have more details about the kind of technical questions that are asked ? purely theorical or « operations » ? How hard was that for a pilot directly out of school? Some examples from your experience would be perfect ! Thanks ! SM_ |
Originally Posted by GkzgA350
(Post 10469885)
During the type rating you will get a salary as 750 euros monthly and as far as I know students will be responsible for their own accommodation. The course will be carried out in Antalya, Turkey.
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Hello everybody!
Is there anybody who has already attended the interview for SXS and would like to share with the group its own experience? We all would really appreciate that! Thank you |
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