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flash48 4th Jun 2012 17:58

SunExpress Recruitment
 
SunExpress is expending its fleet with Anadolujet aircrafts in Turkey. Up to now they have taken already nine of them and still they will get other eight aircrafts.
They are recruiting expat captains every month in Istanbul for new Anatolian bases.

aozc 4th Jun 2012 18:52

Yes I'm currently doing a type rating there. A great company, they are looking for expat captains and local FOs (you need to be a citizen)

caulfield 12th Jun 2012 09:26

SunExpress a great company?Are you off the wagon?

aozc 12th Jun 2012 11:02

That's the impression of mine and many of the people I know working there. Even though there are plenty of wagons pulled around by animals in Turkey i prefer not to ride 'em :E

Boeing Europe 12th Jun 2012 18:18

Does anyone know if there is a chance at all they will take expat Fo's???????? 737NG rated 900 on type ready to go??

aozc 12th Jun 2012 18:54

They look for fresh FOs exclusively unless you are ex turkish military.

jizzman 12th Jun 2012 19:29

Is there a way to get in contact with them, I applied 2 months ago but no answer. Looking for the job as a FO with no experience. Are they still hiring even if you are not a turkish citizen with no experience?

aozc 12th Jun 2012 20:34

No they don't and probably won't for a while either. They usually don't answer if they're not interested because the number of applications is enormous.

Akrep 13th Jun 2012 05:48

Turkey is closed for foreign F/O's.
All Turkish carriers now hire only Turkish nationals for their F/O positions.

B737Dude 13th Jun 2012 18:25

aozc & Akrep,

Did you guys do your TOEFL test in Turkey? and does sxs arrange it for you or do you have to take the test and then apply for the FO position?

Cheers

aozc 14th Jun 2012 08:46

They first ask for your CV, after that they send you a mail asking for some documents. That's where you have to pass a mollymawk and a TOEFL/TOEIC on your own and then hand it in and wait for an interview if all other documents are in order.

B737Dude 14th Jun 2012 17:16

Thats brillant! Cheers for that! Is SXS still recruiting for local FO's?

sunjet1 16th Jun 2012 15:39

Has anybody experiences in screening or Interview at sunex ??! I hear somethink about DA42 sim in istanbul. How ist the interview and where?! Is it held in a Hotel or where??! Because the homebase is still in Antalya (new building).

B737Dude 24th Jun 2012 16:34

I've just seen on Pilots jobs network that SXS is no longer hiring Ab-intros.. How true is that?

aozc 24th Jun 2012 17:19

They don't seem to have the ab-initio collaboration with Stella anymore but rumours are going online that they will collaborate with another school later.

Avenger 26th Jun 2012 20:37

The last Stella intake were lucky in the timing, the DGCA now requires non-Turkish FOs to have minimum 1500TT..this will exclude the majority of applicants for new FO positions, other than Turkish candidates.

jizzman 27th Jun 2012 00:13

Is that true with the DGCA and 1500 TT for non-turkish FO positions? I heard some non-turkish FO do get jobs in Turkey with less than 1500 TT.

aozc 27th Jun 2012 08:05

I think there's some kind of a quote of how many but that's only what I've heard on the "street", I do not know if there's any truth to that.

sunturk1 27th Jun 2012 11:01

According to the new rules on the Turkish CAA website, the 1500TT requirement is only applicable to ICAO licence holders. For EASA or JAA license holders there is no minimum requirement. Furthermore the licence validation which all foreign licence holders have to get, will also not be applicable anymore to EASA or JAA holders. The company that you will work for just has to get a document called 'yetki belgesi' which is valid for the duration of your employment.
Regards

KYTV 28th Jun 2012 21:11

He sunturk,
where does it say on the website?
Thanks in advance

sunturk1 1st Jul 2012 04:51

http://web.shgm.gov.tr/doc4/ypg.pdf

joflin 2nd Jul 2012 13:06

ESSA Incident
 
Rumor says Sunday mornings' ground incident at Sweden's major international airport involved two B737ng-aircrafts taxiing into each other, approaching gates after arrival.

link in Swedish language, but with picture;
Plan i krock på Arlanda | Nyheter | Expressen | Senaste nytt - Nyheter Sport Ekonomi Nöje

Risk of winglets !, although this nordic country isn't so cramped that space separation between the two turks should be a factor ?

Kirks gusset 2nd Jul 2012 22:45

Unfortunately commercial pressures mean Sun Express is changing for the worse...with the inclusion of the Anadolu operations crews are working many 4 sector domestic flights and by winter the Istanbul base will be mainly domestic with the international flights routing through Izmir. The Company offers new starters bases in Eastern Turkey with no International connections. Do the research before joining, many crews are totally exhausted and you will fly 1000hrs a year as a Captain with early starts after days off and no chance to commute unless you take the new bases supporting the Anadolu Jet ops. The up side is training is good and the people are great to work with.

aozc 3rd Jul 2012 08:38

Joflin, they followed the wrong taxiway to the gate according to the article. I hope they can repair it quickly. That's a very unfortunate way to begin the summer season.

Kirk, from what I've heard, on some of the eastern bases there will both AnadoluJet and SunExpress operations for the pilots so maybe we will see destinations outside of Turkey :E. I'm not sure though.

wingbar 3rd Jul 2012 10:04

Hi,

Is it true that only Local F/o's will be taken on?
I filled out their on-line app some weeks ago, I received the 'standard' email saying this would be considered etc etc.
However, today I have gone in to check my application with my log in, only to find out, that all data has been wiped off!

Can anybody shed any light on this?

LVL_CHG 3rd Jul 2012 10:36

Just checked and all my info has been wiped as well!

aozc 3rd Jul 2012 11:07

For a year or so, only low-timer or military turkish citizens has been called for interview. Some collaborations with ab-initio schools in Europe has taken place where foreign candidates have been called as well but there are none at the moment according to what I have heard or seen. However there might be collaborations in the future again.

No_Speed_Restriction 3rd Jul 2012 12:51

Does that include captains as well?

despegue 3rd Jul 2012 13:15

How long is the waiting time for a non commuting DEC to be based in Antalya?
I am willing to move, but my wife's condition is base Antalya.

Do you get ID90 in Business with TK and LH? We do want to see the world...

Thanks,

D.

DutchExpat 3rd Jul 2012 13:49

Antalya will be a very long time if ever most likely. If you want to see the world that's going to be a bit of a problem with 20 days off a year that you cannot take in one go and in average month you get 4 days if lucky to go somewhere Oh yeah no holidays in first year and only far away bases on offer now No IST AYT IZMIR or even Ankara

aozc 3rd Jul 2012 15:36

No_Speed_Restriction: No, they are still hiring expat DEC even if not rated on type. However you will most likely be based in eastern Turkey.

Despegue, you get LH ID after 6 months and TK after 12 months. However as DE told you. The leave is limiting.

Kirks gusset 3rd Jul 2012 16:10

Dutch Expat is right, average 7 days off a month 2.1.2.1.1 but you can " request" a triple off, maybe you will start on an early 02.20 GMT after the day off and under Turkish regs a day off starts up to 12 GMT ( 3 am local) now! no JAR FTLS there.
Forget DEC at AYT, no chance only Eastern Turkey. Also, Turkey will not be EASA compliant by 2014.
If you make a life in Turkey, forget commuting etc it is a good company to be with.

KYTV 3rd Jul 2012 21:37

So can anyone tell me for sure now if the 1500 hours tt rule is for all foreign fo or only for non- JAA licences. Sunturk1 in this forum has previously said that it only applies to ICAO licences. The way I interpret the rule as noted on the website if the Turkish DGCA then I would say the same. Can anyone shed more light on this? Thanks.

Boeing Europe 3rd Jul 2012 23:10

Hi
900 hours as fo on the NG any chamce of being taken on as FO I heard they only take low time local will they recruit expat FO's with time on type etc just short of 1500TT

Boeing Europe 3rd Jul 2012 23:15

My application is still there , has not been wiped maybe a good sign

Kirks gusset 4th Jul 2012 08:42

Even type rated FOs are charged 30Euro in advance, there are a couple of English Licence Holders that have made it through selection, having said that, the last two " English Licence holders" where, infact Dutch! both low hours. Pegasus has got shot of all the non-Turkish FOs now but SXS still retains them, some even got upgraded after meetimg the requirements of 5 years post CPL issue and 4500 hrs.

B737Dude 6th Jul 2012 00:04

Does anyone know if Pegasus Airlines keeps its Turkish F/O's after there 100 hour line-training?

Cheers

Akrep 6th Jul 2012 08:05

Depends on 1: if they need you
2: if they like you / your performance.

turbulence_fl360 8th Jul 2012 01:25

Direct Entry F/O in Turkey
 
Hello there,

I currently am rated on the 737ng with almost 1000TT and 800 on type. What are my chances of getting a gig in Turkey with SunExpress or Pegasus Airlines? I hold a JAA/EASA CPL(FATPL)

Greetings,

Turbulence_FL360:ok:

Kirks gusset 8th Jul 2012 16:17

Pegasus has got rıd of most of the forıegn FOs and are not hırıng any. SXS ıs lookıng for low tıme guys only but they may be ınterested for a remote eastern base, typed or not you have to pay 30K euro up front as an FO for the traınıng. Just rıng them up and ask the questıon dırectly but you need to pass the selectıon tests before they wıll ıntervıew you. If you are over 33 then forget ıt as an FO.


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