Ryanair DEC with ICAO ATPL
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Ryanair DEC with ICAO ATPL
Does anyone know how this process works with the IAA Validation? With the right to work in the UK, would this validation be temporary until you've written the exams? What is the pay (go easy! I know this topic leads to many opinions). As far as bases go, it asks to select 3. Are they generally honoured?
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As far as I’m aware the IAA validation only for U.K. licence holders for 500 hours at FR and then IAA will issue ATPL.
not sure if the IAA are extending that to the whole ICAO ATPL as I think they’re doing it to allow FR some breathing space to crew the U.K. bases whilst everyone gets their licences in order. Basically something FR should have prepared for months and months ago but have only just realised recently.
Bases will be honoured, normally, first preference for FO (even if they try and force you to STN) but the contract states they can base you anywhere they want if they need to….
pay is 50k basic plus extras. 70k if you do 850 hours. Includes your pension, leave, allowances ect
Rumours of a huge pay rise coming as they’re losing FOs at an unseen rate and having to cancel Type Rating courses as most DEPs don’t show up and instead head to DHL, J2, BA & Virgin.
currently FR FOs are the lowest paid >10T jet gig in the U.K. …..
not sure if the IAA are extending that to the whole ICAO ATPL as I think they’re doing it to allow FR some breathing space to crew the U.K. bases whilst everyone gets their licences in order. Basically something FR should have prepared for months and months ago but have only just realised recently.
Bases will be honoured, normally, first preference for FO (even if they try and force you to STN) but the contract states they can base you anywhere they want if they need to….
pay is 50k basic plus extras. 70k if you do 850 hours. Includes your pension, leave, allowances ect
Rumours of a huge pay rise coming as they’re losing FOs at an unseen rate and having to cancel Type Rating courses as most DEPs don’t show up and instead head to DHL, J2, BA & Virgin.
currently FR FOs are the lowest paid >10T jet gig in the U.K. …..
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Bases will be honoured, normally, first preference for FO (even if they try and force you to STN) but the contract states they can base you anywhere they want if they need to….
pay is 50k basic plus extras. 70k if you do 850 hours. Includes your pension, leave, allowances ect
Rumours of a huge pay rise coming as they’re losing FOs at an unseen rate and having to cancel Type Rating courses as most DEPs don’t show up and instead head to DHL, J2, BA & Virgin.
currently FR FOs are the lowest paid >10T jet gig in the U.K. …..
As JFO UK bank on £3200ish after tax. Couple hundred up or down on that.
FO peeps few hundred extra on that is what I have seen and been told. Yea if you run £70k through a tax calculator it says you should get £4K. You won’t be getting that as FO.
Not the lowest paid gig in UK but it’s a reason along with many other reasons why people are leaving in droves.
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In reality other than the Flt ops manager, no one knows how how many are leaving, Huge pay rise coming ? now we are talking Rumours. I've been here 23 years and its just another cycle.
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Can't really see an increase in pay for aircrew. Enough cadets in pipeline that enable FR to keep their precious profits in view. Can't blame them they run a very tight ship and will continue whilst they see their management profiles work. Even though they are losing many to other operators they will continue to keep wages and conditions at their present levels. They have a very solid conveyer belt of newbies coming on stream. It's their way.
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What of experience levels though? It is true there is a huge input of cadets, and an absurdly poor pay deal for voted for, presumably by the huge numbers of newbies who didn't really care at their stage - so many with experience and employability worth a damn left for somewhere else where it's more valued. The Ryanair philosophy did seem to be to use a dogmatic adherence to encyclopedic SOPs as a substitute for experience, skill and airmanship IMO, but that only works so far.
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Are you sure there’s enough cadets coming through to keep the U.K. bases full? Judging by the DEFO recruitment ongoing I’d say they’re getting quite desperate for the U.K. bases
Loads of Dead heading crews…cousin came over for paddy’s weekend..paid top dollar for seat and carryon up front..crew baggage filled the racks and she had to wait until all of the pax disembarked to retrieve her baggage which the operating crew had stowed at the back and refused to return to her….
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Loads of Dead heading crews…cousin came over for paddy’s weekend..paid top dollar for seat and carryon up front..crew baggage filled the racks and she had to wait until all of the pax disembarked to retrieve her baggage which the operating crew had stowed at the back and refused to return to her….
OK that’s great….and?
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Strange that there isn't a post outlining present UK crew salary. Is it that there are too many contracts about and differing pay scales for FO and Skippers.
There is rumoured to be some pay increase in the short term to help stem the outflow.
Pretty certain that it would help prospective lookers in Europe who have the right to work in UK.
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I believe it’s around £50k basic for FO and £105 for captain plus around £6k to cover stuff (uniform , insurance etc.) that other companies would probably offer on top of salary ….then about £14k sector pay per annum . I don’t work for Ryanair so I can’t vouch for how precise those figures are for U.K. base
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I believe it’s around £50k basic for FO and £105 for captain plus around £6k to cover stuff (uniform , insurance etc.) that other companies would probably offer on top of salary ….then about £14k sector pay per annum . I don’t work for Ryanair so I can’t vouch for how precise those figures are for U.K. base
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Well that was pretty straightforward. Ask a question and get multiple answers from great posters. I am sure this sort of open information will help our colleagues and future colleagues make better informed decisions. Salute to all responders.
