British Airways Direct Entry Pilot

[kendrick47247]

Originally Posted by Seosan

The training is delivered by BA sims at LHR so it’s not ‘away from base’. You don’t get hotels for the type rating.

Type ratings and training are not exclusively done at LHR.

[Max Angle]

At the moment most A320 ratings are being done by L3 at Gatwick, if you are LHR based you will get a hotel room and daily allowances.

[ClearenceClarence]

Is the 777 TR exclusively done at the GLA or are there other locations they use?

[Flyfun24]

Originally Posted by CAVOKpilot

Hi All, I’m not asking about the capacity test I’m sure many of you will be pleased to hear…

I’m joining in September as non-type rated FO on the A320. Spoke to a couple of others joining and they’re under impression accommodation during the type rating phase isn’t provided. I’ve been told that it will be as technically away from base and on company time.

Anyone able to cast any light on this?

Hi, sorry I can't help with your question but are you able to shed some light on how long you were in the hold pool waiting for a phone call with a start date?

[The Foss]

Originally Posted by ClearenceClarence

Is the 777 TR exclusively done at the GLA or are there other locations they use?

I believe it’s just 320 ratings that have been getting outsourced to L3

[pilotHS24]

Are you paid during type rating training?

[Speed_Trim_Fail]

Originally Posted by pilotHS24

Are you paid during type rating training?

Of course you are! If out of base you get allowances too. This should be the default and what you should expect…


My word what a state the industry is in

[CAVOKpilot]

Originally Posted by Flyfun24

Hi, sorry I can't help with your question but are you able to shed some light on how long you were in the hold pool waiting for a phone call with a start date?

I’ve dropped you a message.

[Flyfun24]

Originally Posted by CAVOKpilot

I’ve dropped you a message.

Thanks, I'll have a look once I get 3 posts hahaha

[Awaywiththefairies]

Originally Posted by Speed_Trim_Fail

Of course you are! If out of base you get allowances too. This should be the default and what you should expect…


My word what a state the industry is in

I definitely wasn’t at a previously airline. Out of pocket for the type rating, technically unemployed, and living in an awful hotel!

[tecnamflyer]

How are non 320 type rated people joining mainline on the 320? My interpretation of the current recruitment ads are that if A320 rated with >500hrs you can join mainline, if not rated your only options are Euroflier, or if you've got 1500hrs ZFTT qualifying, you can join direct long haul.

I'm about 200 hrs short of the 1500, non 320 rated and not interested in Euroflier.

[clarkeysntfc]

They are taking cadets on to the mainline 320 fleet via the NQPP or whatever it’s called now.

[tecnamflyer]

Ah, well that would explain it. I thought the cadets were all being funnelled to EF.

[Oxazole]

Hi all,

Would anyone be able to clarify the £4.48 subsistence allowance/tafb payment. Is this based on time spent down route only or based on the whole duty time departing/arriving at Heathrow.

regards,

Oxazole

[GS-Alpha]

It’s from starting at Heathrow until you arrive back at Heathrow.

[Oxazole]

Originally Posted by GS-Alpha

It’s from starting at Heathrow until you arrive back at Heathrow.

Thanks GS! Just trying to do some mental gymnastics to make the sums works between leaving orange, especially after the recent pay offer, but for the first ~15years it seems quite a hit. That being said, it’s a certainly a nice problem to be wrestling with I guess 😂

Oxazole

[Twitterati]

Is the 320 fleet getting close to needing DEC again?

[Plastic787]

Are you joining direct LH? If so you should eclipse what you’re earning as FO/SFO at easyJet without too much bother from day one (Capt is a different story) even after the substantially better pay rise you’ve received there. (Another story altogether but well done to the easyJet CC compared to our lot).

The U2 figures I’ve seen I spat out my coffee at originally, however missed the fact that they included pension and sector pay etc.

By way of illustration my allowances in May are just a smidge under £4K. However it’s a pretty busy month and includes a couple of hours of NCP too. Going forward on average you’re looking at just under £3K in monthly allowances on top of basic so add £30-35K to the basic as a Long Haul FO at BA for your sums.

[FACoff]

Originally Posted by Twitterati

Is the 320 fleet getting close to needing DEC again?

Flew with someone in recruitment recently who expected DEC at Euroflyer again in the not-too-distant future. BA have been releasing some senior bidders from their LH freezes to fill the void in the LHS 320 at Heathrow for the time being.

I was equally shocked by the Easy pay deal (or rather, how poor the BA one was/is). Hypothetically any DEC recruitment at Heathrow would mean joining on a starting salary about £42k below your year 1 DEC Easy skipper - a gap which actually grows as the Easy loyalty bonus kicks in. Not to mention the appalling lifestyle at the bottom of the BA list.

[Oxazole]

Originally Posted by Plastic787

Are you joining direct LH? If so you should eclipse what you’re earning as FO/SFO at easyJet without too much bother from day one (Capt is a different story) even after the substantially better pay rise you’ve received there. (Another story altogether but well done to the easyJet CC compared to our lot).

The U2 figures I’ve seen I spat out my coffee at originally, however missed the fact that they included pension and sector pay etc.

By way of illustration my allowances in May are just a smidge under £4K. However it’s a pretty busy month and includes a couple of hours of NCP too. Going forward on average you’re looking at just under £3K in monthly allowances on top of basic so add £30-35K to the basic as a Long Haul FO at BA for your sums.

We've been very fortunate as a membership, the CC have been fantastic all round.

Appreciate the clarity on allowances! The move would be to LHR SH, a personal decision on my part to help balance family commitments/wanting to gain relative seniority a little faster. The draws are the current time to command on SH, me not getting any younger (early 30s), and the career variety on offer. From having read through the thread, its a different lifestyle on offer over at BA as much as anythings else. Just have to weigh that up against the skipper salary (that being said once pension contributions/tax is considered it does become less stark than headlines might make out). I don't think I've added anything new to the discussion, other than restating time old considerations most have in resolving the EZY-BA quandary so apologies on that front. If I discover the answer i'll report back.

Oxazole