Virgin Recruiting
Joined: Mar 2018
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
Posts: 544
Likes: 110
From: U.K.
Key highlights
- 750hrs is back but a bit fluffy as to how many and when they will move onto it.
- 30% pay rise over 3 years
- 4 more golden days off
- new scheduling rules (a move in the right direction but still inferior to BA LH. Eg still 2 pilots WOCL 9.5hrs)
- Productivity opt in. Loose all protections and apply just FTL for 10% more.
- no overtime in 14 days of sickness
- overtime rates reduced. Want more money have to opt in to the productivity contract.
- 750hrs is back but a bit fluffy as to how many and when they will move onto it.
- 30% pay rise over 3 years
- 4 more golden days off
- new scheduling rules (a move in the right direction but still inferior to BA LH. Eg still 2 pilots WOCL 9.5hrs)
- Productivity opt in. Loose all protections and apply just FTL for 10% more.
- no overtime in 14 days of sickness
- overtime rates reduced. Want more money have to opt in to the productivity contract.
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 44
Likes: 2
From: Up north
Not to get in a BA vs Virgin chat, but that is subjective imo. BA don’t get guaranteed 3 days off after a lot of trips unlike at Virgin. They can have 2 days off after west coast/SA etc. I would like 3 pilots with the same trigger as BA, but I’d rather 2 pilots and 9.5hr flight with 3 days off than 3 pilots with 2 days off.
Personally, I think the new rules are stronger than the scheduling rules prior to covid under the PSA, couple that with a 750 hours contract (that has no reduction in pay) and I think we’re onto a winner and it puts us in a really good position again.
Hoping we can all move away from the toxicity and negativity and get on with our lives now.
Also, overtime rates were not reduced. They just weren’t increased in line with the pay rise.
other things include:
- hugely improved leave rules
- a binding redundancy policy (finally - to precent covid like redundancies occuring out of seniority)
- better sickness policies
- improvements to positioning
- standby callout increased to 3hrs
- options for a commuter roster but yet to be seen how well that will work
Since we changed the rostering system, I find the workload balancing to be far better. Last few months regularly getting 5-7 days off in a row, with about 14-15 days off a month.
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 241
Likes: 47
From: Runcorn,Cheshire,England
Not to get in a BA vs Virgin chat, but that is subjective imo. BA don’t get guaranteed 3 days off after a lot of trips unlike at Virgin. They can have 2 days off after west coast/SA etc. I would like 3 pilots with the same trigger as BA, but I’d rather 2 pilots and 9.5hr flight with 3 days off than 3 pilots with 2 days off.
Personally, I think the new rules are stronger than the scheduling rules prior to covid under the PSA, couple that with a 750 hours contract (that has no reduction in pay) and I think we’re onto a winner and it puts us in a really good position again.
Hoping we can all move away from the toxicity and negativity and get on with our lives now.
Also, overtime rates were not reduced. They just weren’t increased in line with the pay rise.
other things include:
- hugely improved leave rules
- a binding redundancy policy (finally - to precent covid like redundancies occuring out of seniority)
- better sickness policies
- improvements to positioning
- standby callout increased to 3hrs
- options for a commuter roster but yet to be seen how well that will work
Since we changed the rostering system, I find the workload balancing to be far better. Last few months regularly getting 5-7 days off in a row, with about 14-15 days off a month.
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 70
Likes: 5
From: UK
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 163
Likes: 18
From: London
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 123
Likes: 9
From: UK
Key highlights
- 750hrs is back but a bit fluffy as to how many and when they will move onto it.
- 30% pay rise over 3 years
- 4 more golden days off
- new scheduling rules (a move in the right direction but still inferior to BA LH. Eg still 2 pilots WOCL 9.5hrs)
- Productivity opt in. Loose all protections and apply just FTL for 10% more.
- no overtime in 14 days of sickness
- overtime rates reduced. Want more money have to opt in to the productivity contract.
- 750hrs is back but a bit fluffy as to how many and when they will move onto it.
- 30% pay rise over 3 years
- 4 more golden days off
- new scheduling rules (a move in the right direction but still inferior to BA LH. Eg still 2 pilots WOCL 9.5hrs)
- Productivity opt in. Loose all protections and apply just FTL for 10% more.
- no overtime in 14 days of sickness
- overtime rates reduced. Want more money have to opt in to the productivity contract.
Would be good to compare BA and VS on current pay deals.
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 50
Likes: 6
From: FL390
How is it to pick up flights from days off at Virgin. Is it fleet dependent or is it relatively straightforward. Also is this rumour of the 330neo order to replace the 787 sound solid ?
thanks for the responses just trying to paint a picture as looking at both longhual airlines.
thanks for the responses just trying to paint a picture as looking at both longhual airlines.
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 50
Likes: 6
From: FL390
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 179
Likes: 25
From: uk
A colleague had sim assessment last week and the scenario he was given was Loss of Communications followed by Bomb Threat.
He subsequently failed as was hand flying the sim at that time.
Comments please including from the TC who set this scenario who in my humble opinion is unsuitable for this task.
He subsequently failed as was hand flying the sim at that time.
Comments please including from the TC who set this scenario who in my humble opinion is unsuitable for this task.
