BA pilots vote to strike
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Some of the Pilots ( ALL ex BMI SH) dont get the extra £1 either........I say again , sold down the river to protect the few
Just before Christmas, with a legal right to strike, with a legitimate position, and a management praying quietly that you wouldn’t cave - You did exactly that.
One wonders what would have happened, if the cadet and Nigel culture that exists an BA now, had been dominant in English society in 1939.
I see no relation.
The FUD spread intentionally by management in these situations includes the ‘boogeyman gambit’; the unseen brilliant plan in store for the pilots if they continue on the foolish path. Much like the ‘taking of hostages’ (firing, removing pay, travel privileges), it’s one of many tools in a classic playbook. Klaus is well aquatinted. And BALPA should have been both aware and educating the pilot group. Once it’s all over, jobs etc. are restored under a final agreement. Life moves on.
Or, you get next to nothing. Except a long term hole in your pilot group’s confidence, a gaping wound where the shreds of your union once lurked. Along with a management group emboldened, clinking glasses and rolling in the money that you left on the table.
Sorry - It’s sad to watch. It’s also puzzling.
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Puzzling indeed. As is the role of the general secretary in all this. With the exception of that god awful press interview he gave, where has he been? He’s presided over strike ballots at Ryanair and BA, concurrently. Yet is nowhere to be seen. He’s either feckless and is being walked all over by the NEC or local councils or he’s a classic willy waver whose bark is worse than his bite. Either way he’s been totally marginalised and swept aside as a man who must be dealt with.
Grenshaw and Darke did a lot less damage to pilots’ collective interests and yet they were booted out. Why is our gas fitter friend still in post?
Grenshaw and Darke did a lot less damage to pilots’ collective interests and yet they were booted out. Why is our gas fitter friend still in post?
Agreed. TBH I have a feeling the "line" membership within BA haven't had the full story but looking ahead the on-going spat within the BACC isn't helping matters either.Yes, it is embarrassing.
My hope for the New Year is that some of the supposed shakers and movers with influence at BALPA (some reps, some ex-reps) stop stirring, put their big boy's pants on, start thinking about the membership rather than themselves and stop playing politics
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Agreed. TBH I have a feeling the "line" membership within BA haven't had the full story but looking ahead the on-going spat within the BACC isn't helping matters either.Yes, it is embarrassing.
My hope for the New Year is that some of the supposed shakers and movers with influence at BALPA (some reps, some ex-reps) stop stirring, put their big boy's pants on, start thinking about the membership rather than themselves and stop playing politics
My hope for the New Year is that some of the supposed shakers and movers with influence at BALPA (some reps, some ex-reps) stop stirring, put their big boy's pants on, start thinking about the membership rather than themselves and stop playing politics
The unedifying infighting is a sad thing to behold but not enormously surprising given the complete volte face just performed.
We did indeed, we are where we are (playing a game of catch up with regard to T&Cs which we will now never win) in part because of the behaviour of previous BACCs, not just the current incumbents who are now catching all the flak..but you wouldn't think it listening to some of the ex-reps.......oh no, nothing to do with them...
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Re the last few posts.
its not mandatory to be a Balpa member. Do what more of us are increasingly doing, vote with your feet and join the IPA. It may seem a lonely move but rest assured, you won’t be alone!
its not mandatory to be a Balpa member. Do what more of us are increasingly doing, vote with your feet and join the IPA. It may seem a lonely move but rest assured, you won’t be alone!
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the IPA have no union recognition within BA. What use are they ? Have they any track record of collective bargaining in UK airlines?
I’m certainly not one of the BALPA forum “rah rah” individuals, I think the BACC has been weak at the strategic level for years, but to be fair this once I think some of the current reps, (sadly some of them no longer on the BACC, but still active in the pool) do a lot of good work behind the scenes at a “tactical” level...