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Old 7th Aug 2018, 16:48
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why a lot of FR people go back.
A lot?? Can you quantify “a lot” please? I believe that the number is very very few. Whilst it is undoubtedly true that the ex FR contingency miss their fixed roster patterns, there is much more to working for Jet2 than just the rostering aspect, ex FR guys/girls are enjoying having a summer holiday for example.

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Old 7th Aug 2018, 16:48
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Why couldnít Jet2 offer their pilots a 5/4 in winter instead of a random roster, if everyone is on standby?
I think the simple answer is they would rather most crew took part time options over winter months.

Some of the options are attractive - 80% pay deal (really 90% pay since half of that lost income would go on tax anyway, and still 100% towards pension etc) for 4 months completely off. If you tag your annual leave, 5 full months off roster. Is this still offered?

The minimum days off deal has been around in the charter airline business for years. Operational flexibility. Airport standby in UK when all aircraft are on the deck in the canaries or turkey on turnaround could become frustrating I guess.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 00:59
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Nowhere is perfect. In Ryanair I had 4 days off every 'week' which was great, but I spent at least 1, sometimes more of those commuting to my under-crewed home base which they wouldn't give me. In Jet2 I have a random roster, I work not far off half the number of hours a year, I get tired during the summer in between leave, I spend most of the winter on standby which because I live within 20 mins of the crew room means I can do pretty much anything I would do on a day off apart from hit the beers.

One will suit some and the other will suit others. The roster isn't everything - that applies to both.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 21:39
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As a BA 787 SFO I average about £5300 / month net on pay point 7 and I get 13/14 days off roughly every month.

The big advantage of Jet2 for me would be living up north, which I would vastly prefer for many reasons but not least because its so much cheaper from a cost of living perspective.

Trouble is, it sounds like a lot less days off and not that much more money to sit in the LHS.
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Old 10th Aug 2018, 07:21
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As an SFO on the 757, flying 400 hours a year (which is 100 hours more than the last two years!): matching the companies 8% pension contribution expect about £3500-3700 a month take home in the winter flying 2 days a month, flying 10 days a month in the summer taking home £4100. Normal FO salary is approx £6000 less off your gross annual salary so deduct about £250 a month from the above figures, however if you join on the 737 expect to fly double the above averaged out over the year and probably about another £300 a month in sector/duty pay (this is a guess as obviously i don't fly it)
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Old 10th Aug 2018, 10:21
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Originally Posted by whitemonk View Post
As an SFO on the 757, flying 400 hours a year (which is 100 hours more than the last two years!): matching the companies 8% pension contribution expect about £3500-3700 a month take home in the winter flying 2 days a month, flying 10 days a month in the summer taking home £4100. Normal FO salary is approx £6000 less off your gross annual salary so deduct about £250 a month from the above figures, however if you join on the 737 expect to fly double the above averaged out over the year and probably about another £300 a month in sector/duty pay (this is a guess as obviously i don't fly it)
Any 737 Captains who could give a detailed salary breakdown like the above? Thanks
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Old 12th Aug 2018, 16:52
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I note from PPJN there is talk of "a possible merger with Airtanker and ongoing negotiations with TUI group"

Jet2.com pilot jobs news for airline pilots and aviation schools

Is anyone able to elaborate on this? Is a TUI buyout on the cards or is this nonsense?

Thanks
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Old 12th Aug 2018, 16:53
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Originally Posted by Sallytraffic View Post
I note from PPJN there is talk of "a possible merger with Airtanker and ongoing negotiations with TUI group"

Jet2.com pilot jobs news for airline pilots and aviation schools

Is anyone able to elaborate on this? Is a TUI buyout on the cards or is this nonsense?

Thanks
Yep, someone is pulling your plonker.
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Old 12th Aug 2018, 23:17
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The latest 6th August updates to the Jet2 page on PPJN are highly suspect, with some possible plonker-pulling as Chesty points out. I am doubtful about the AirTanker thing but don't have enough knowledge to confirm or deny this. The 757s will certainly go beyond 2020 and there definitely wouldn't be a 5 year bond for anyone transferring to the 737!

Someone with the know-how (or login) should edit the PPJN info and get rid of that BS.
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 09:06
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Jet2 seem to be hiring more DEC. 2 Captains are leaving from my base (Ryanair). Is the lifestyle at Jet2 that good? I know there are options for unpaid leave in winter. Whatís the BOGOFF deal? Donít know any pilots at Jet2 but I know a couple of Cabin Crew who say itís a nice company to work for. Just a shame they donít pay a little more for Captains.
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 14:46
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Originally Posted by fastidious bob View Post
option 2 sounds good. 90%. Obviously this is on top of your leave?
​​​​​​I believe so
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 17:58
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Leave is abated by the rate at which it is accrued (ie you lose 3 days/mth) arbitrary really if you take a month off in which you would otherwise have taken leave.
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 15:19
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Originally Posted by SCINHead View Post
Leave is abated by the rate at which it is accrued (ie you lose 3 days/mth) arbitrary really if you take a month off in which you would otherwise have taken leave.
I believe the exception is the BOGOF offer, where you lose 50% of the leave that would have been accrued during your time off.
So if you take 2 months off, you lose 1 month of pay and 1 month of leave (3 days unless you are in a leave bonus year).
Depending on individual circumstances these options also have the benefit of getting some/all of your tax free allowance back. So the net effect is even better than at first sight.
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 19:10
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Have BALPA negotiated any pay deals for April 2019?
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 22:23
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Originally Posted by fastidious bob View Post
Have BALPA negotiated any pay deals for April 2019?
I think youíll find that BALPA, whilst nominally recognised by the company, have very little joy in engaging in meaningful negotiation with Jet2.
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 23:48
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Having said that there has been a decent pay rise every year since Iíve been here.
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Old 21st Aug 2018, 08:01
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Having said that there has been a decent pay rise every year since Iíve been here.
Fair enough comment. Generally 2-3% plus a few thousand pounds. Profit share comes in to play at the end of this financial year, though nobody is quite sure how it will be divided up.
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Old 25th Aug 2018, 18:09
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I see Jet2 is offering a Mallorca base with 8 months on, 4 months "quiet period" pattern. Is that quiet period just a nice way of putting that you will be on standby for 4 months? Would this be like the option 1 contract discussed earlier?

As a captain, I guess the take home pay on average would be the 5200-5800 pounds mentioned earlier in the thread as well?

I am currently working in the sandpit and contemplating with the idea of heading to europe for better lifestyle and family environment than I currently have.
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Old 25th Aug 2018, 19:07
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I donít think I would need the type rating as I am already current and rated on type. (Work across the runway from ek). Getting a bit lazy now to change to a totally different type but will have a look and see what their offer is. Thx
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Old 15th Sep 2018, 13:18
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Hi Chaps

Jumping into this forum as it seems to be the most appropriate; hoping for some advice please.

Just been offered Stansted FO on the ubiquitous 75% contract starting in the next three months. It's a pretty big step down from current role in terms of pay and seat but I need more time at home so content to take the pain for a couple or three years. That said, the commute is going to be challenging as I am an hour or so away from Stansted. Can anyone tell me what the Jet2 standby rules are? And are there any facilities at the base to shower and change? If so I might be able to commute by motorbike during the summer months which would make the A14 a whole lot easier to negotiate. I'm assuming that there is free staff parking?

Thanks in advance for any help.
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