Ryanair Cancelling flights!
Join Date: Nov 2017
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It's a shame that most likely this can't be a coordinated total shutdown and no doubt FR will pull out all the stops to minimize disruption.
However provided the planned strikes actually go ahead and result in a significant and visible number of canceled flights this action will have a massive psychological impact for customers, media and the markets.
For the markets it will be a clear demonstration that FR have lost their iron grip on IR. That any significant number of crews are willing to actually walk out sends a very strong message.
The dispute has already caught the attention of various authorities around Europe, so any retaliation against striking crews will attract intense regulatory & media interest and possible legal actions. Sneaky tactics like failing SIM are not going to fly under such scrutiny.
Striking FR crews have commitments from worldwide unions to provide legal support and funding if required. This support WILL be forthcoming if needed because the outcome of this dispute maters to the whole industry.
FR will have a difficult time turning the public against striking crews for any disruption - due to the shambolic handling of the previous cancellations, the public will blame FR regardless.
TLDR;
Anyone who can should not be afraid to join the strikes because practical and legal support is in place that goes well beyond mere platitudes.
You have far, far more to loose by failing to follow this through.
However provided the planned strikes actually go ahead and result in a significant and visible number of canceled flights this action will have a massive psychological impact for customers, media and the markets.
For the markets it will be a clear demonstration that FR have lost their iron grip on IR. That any significant number of crews are willing to actually walk out sends a very strong message.
The dispute has already caught the attention of various authorities around Europe, so any retaliation against striking crews will attract intense regulatory & media interest and possible legal actions. Sneaky tactics like failing SIM are not going to fly under such scrutiny.
Striking FR crews have commitments from worldwide unions to provide legal support and funding if required. This support WILL be forthcoming if needed because the outcome of this dispute maters to the whole industry.
FR will have a difficult time turning the public against striking crews for any disruption - due to the shambolic handling of the previous cancellations, the public will blame FR regardless.
TLDR;
Anyone who can should not be afraid to join the strikes because practical and legal support is in place that goes well beyond mere platitudes.
You have far, far more to loose by failing to follow this through.
The Cooler King
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: In the Desert
Posts: 1,666
Ryanair Agrees To Recognise Unions
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/201...strial-action/
...and THAT'S kicking your ass!
Well done, folks!
...and THAT'S kicking your ass!
Well done, folks!
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: Stansted
Posts: 6
From the BBC
Ryanair says it has invited pilots unions from several counties to talks that could recognise them.
Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary said:
"Recognising unions will be a significant change for Ryanair, but we have delivered radical change before.
"Putting the needs of our customers first, and avoiding disruption to their Christmas flights, is the reason why we will now deal with our pilots through recognised national union structures and we hope and expect that these structures can and will be agreed with our pilots early in the New Year.”
Ryanair says it has invited pilots unions from several counties to talks that could recognise them.
Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary said:
"Recognising unions will be a significant change for Ryanair, but we have delivered radical change before.
"Putting the needs of our customers first, and avoiding disruption to their Christmas flights, is the reason why we will now deal with our pilots through recognised national union structures and we hope and expect that these structures can and will be agreed with our pilots early in the New Year.”
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Location
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The Irish company has written to pilot organizations in Ireland, the U.K., Germany, Italy, Spain and Portugal inviting each of them to talks “to recognize these unions as the representative body for pilots in Ryanair in each of these countries,” it said in a statement Friday.
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: UK
Posts: 142
Well, it just shows what you can do if you stick together. Wow!
There'll be a lot of euphoria on the various bulletin boards but it's worth remembering that most Leopards don't change their spots. Ryanair have proven themselves to be masters of spin and this may just be another of their twists and turns. It's critical that all the Ryanair pilots now stick together and force through changes for the better. Better for themselves and better for the rest of the airline industry.
The long road towards decent Ts&Cs within Ryanair begins now so stick together, keep going and good luck.
(I'm assuming this isn't some kind of false news
There'll be a lot of euphoria on the various bulletin boards but it's worth remembering that most Leopards don't change their spots. Ryanair have proven themselves to be masters of spin and this may just be another of their twists and turns. It's critical that all the Ryanair pilots now stick together and force through changes for the better. Better for themselves and better for the rest of the airline industry.
The long road towards decent Ts&Cs within Ryanair begins now so stick together, keep going and good luck.
(I'm assuming this isn't some kind of false news
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Utopia
Posts: 510
Originally Posted by Farrell
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/201...strial-action/
...and THAT'S kicking your ass!
Well done, folks!
...and THAT'S kicking your ass!
Well done, folks!
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: germany
Posts: 113
Very well done folks!
But be cautious, you won a battle, but not the war. Most of you don’t have any bargaining experience, stay united and listen to the advice of long time experts like VC Ingolf Schumacher and others from the various countries! FR will try to screw you wherever possible.
Congrats anyhow!
But be cautious, you won a battle, but not the war. Most of you don’t have any bargaining experience, stay united and listen to the advice of long time experts like VC Ingolf Schumacher and others from the various countries! FR will try to screw you wherever possible.
Congrats anyhow!
Last edited by repulo; 15th Dec 2017 at 12:22.
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Dublin
Posts: 19
Here it is from the horse's mouth:
Ryanair Statement
This is probably the most important bit:
No union reps from other airlines allowed.
Ryanair Statement
This is probably the most important bit:
...as long as they establish Committees of Ryanair pilots to deal with Ryanair issues, as Ryanair will not engage with pilots who fly for competitor airlines in Ireland or elsewhere.
