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Old 21st Sep 2017, 14:06
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"A pilot's job isn't difficult."
"How does a pilot suffer from fatigue?"
"Pilot's only work 18 hours a week."

All quotes from MOL at today's AGM. Same rhetoric that he has used for years with regards to pilot's working hours and job entailment. It's pretty obvious the PR stance that FR are set to take on this one.

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Old 21st Sep 2017, 14:38
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It would be interesting if their pilots did this alleged 18 hours of work a week and not a minute more and see how well his airline runs.
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 14:39
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Originally Posted by speedrestriction View Post
I wonder if he is in denial.
He is an one trick pony, though that trick has served him and RYR very well for the last couple of decades. It is still far from sure that this crew shortage will mean the end of RYR as we know it, hopefully it might.

Originally Posted by er340790 View Post
He really does believe his pilots are spoiled 5-year olds!
Probably not, but treating them as such was so far beneficial to RYR's bottom line, not to mention some who have cashed their shares recently.
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 14:40
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Ryanair's management upheavel a few years ago was all about the sales side, but Ryanair is also involved in production. The production of flights with all the organization and coordination of input through proper ERM processes that takes.
It is time to consider an AGB - Always Getting Better - program directed inwards. Some reorganisation and low cost high visibility improvements of conditions worked for the recruitment to Ryanair Labs.
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 14:48
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Originally Posted by Callsign Kilo View Post
"A pilot's job isn't difficult."
"How does a pilot suffer from fatigue?"
"Pilot's only work 18 hours a week."

All quotes from MOL at today's AGM. Same rhetoric that he has used for years with regards to pilot's working hours and job entailment. It's pretty obvious the PR stance that FR are set to take on this one.
It isn't his pilots who have defined the limits.

Does this line of rhetoric imply he might consider conducting a dispute with EASA and other bodies, in order to increase maximum duty hours?
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 14:52
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Originally Posted by Callsign Kilo View Post
"A pilot's job isn't difficult."
"How does a pilot suffer from fatigue?"
"Pilot's only work 18 hours a week."
Unfortunately these are, in my experience, also the pre-conceived assumptions of many who know little about the job and what it really entails. One has only to hope that the media give sufficient voice to the pilots who are highlighting the reality of the situation.
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 15:08
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They should all tell him we’ll work 18 hours a week because that’s what you pay us for, and see how that turns out !
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 15:24
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it's your time guys, you guys have the golden opportunity to get improvements now. press now or never. Don't loose this chance. Good luck
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 15:29
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Any truth about rumour that chief pilot has resigned?
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 16:02
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“I don’t even know how there would be industrial action in Ryanair,” O’Leary said. “There isn’t a union.”

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-cancellations

There you go guys and gals, MOL has told you what to do. Get a union
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 16:07
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O'L can say what he wants about pilot lifestyles but the pilots are gagged by the companies social media and other non disclosure policies. O'L has been on a win win with that for years but all the lies about holiday cock ups and all the other stuff is well and truly knocking upon his door now.

it'll be interesting how O'L manages this if those still working there do go sick on a staged system as it'll sent a great message to them and the customers.

Good luck boys and girls this is your time.
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 16:35
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Ryanair have just announce that they are allowing a vote to strike by pilots for the first time in their history. They are charging £10 for each ballot paper.
Or £25 if you upgrade to Priority Voting
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 17:33
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I also echo the support for the Ryr pilots. MOL is finally on the back foot. He sounds like he's going to be his usual arrogant self and play hard ball. Problem is the ball is very much in the pilots court. At the end of the day it's an airline, MOL can leave and it will still run as an airline, without the pilots and cabin crew, you have no airline.

Guys and gals your time has finally come where you can get what you've so richly deserved for all those year of poor treatment. Now is the time to stand up and be counted. Good luck.
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 17:45
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Nothing will change whilst MOL is in place.

Business leaders with his style of management - rule by fear - have long memories and any gains will be short lived whilst he is in place. He will make it his business to take revenge.

Eventually he will have to be removed by the shareholders for progress to be made. He will never understand an inclusive style of management and genuinely believes he is something special. The last one I remember in the same mould was ExSir Fred Goodwin.
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 17:52
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Now is the time to stand up and be counted.
One; two; three ...

Why do you think they're 'working for RYR' anyway?

Think about it. It's a company.
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 17:55
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Originally Posted by FlipFlapFlop View Post
Nothing will change whilst MOL is in place.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...ares-1.3110409

Is it coincidence?
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 17:58
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Originally Posted by Stone Cold II View Post
I also echo the support for the Ryr pilots. MOL is finally on the back foot. He sounds like he's going to be his usual arrogant self and play hard ball. Problem is the ball is very much in the pilots court. At the end of the day it's an airline, MOL can leave and it will still run as an airline, without the pilots and cabin crew, you have no airline.

Guys and gals your time has finally come where you can get what you've so richly deserved for all those year of poor treatment. Now is the time to stand up and be counted. Good luck.
In a previous reply one forum member told me I had no respect when I suggested the RYR pilots to get rid of O Lairy and his bandit management.

Again, O Lairy has no respect what so ever for both cockpit and cabin crew, claiming "they only work 18 hrs per month"

Once again, go get him and get him hard!

Go on strike pan European or call in sick all together. And indeed, GET UNIONISED!

Hopefull then this clown will finally give in and makes this the real Southwest Airlines of Europe. A great airline, where people love to work for and where the management loves and respect their employees as well.

A market conform salary, fixed contracts, no vague work as a independent via an agency with uncertain tax claims, normal sick pay, the right to have your holliday when you want, maybe at a rotational base, as not every flightcrew can have vacation at the same time, a good pension plan and loss of licence. And finally the right to be member with a union reckognised by the company, of which the representatives can do the negotiations for you.

Go for it! It is now or never!
And finally bonded for a type rating instead of having to pay upfront.
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 18:02
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He still has 47,000,000 shares. Don't think he's going anywhere just yet!
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 18:11
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Buggah!

Ya mean he's still the boss?

Buggah!
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Old 21st Sep 2017, 18:13
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Is Panic Setting in?

Have a look at your favorite Flight Radar/Plane Finder (whatever) - you will see that 2 RYR 73s, EI-FOH & EI-SEV have been pounding the circuit ALL DAY at Shannon (SNN) - is MO'L trying to qualify all the 100+ new pilots he has promised the media in one day?

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