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He isn't lying about his take home pay. I know a few TRE's in RYR who are on the new deal and are taking home £9k+ (this will include working a day off or so).
Over the year the monthly take home pay will be less than that, probably somewhere in the region of £7-8k per month for a TRE.
Pay in RYR isn't bad, as the post above states, people don't have an issue with the pay, it's all the other stuff.
Over the year the monthly take home pay will be less than that, probably somewhere in the region of £7-8k per month for a TRE.
Pay in RYR isn't bad, as the post above states, people don't have an issue with the pay, it's all the other stuff.
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As a line captain on FR contract (with the new increased package) and 70 hrs a month on average the take home pay is about €7000 per month. If one pays pension say €600 per month then is €6400 but in the pension fund €1200 are deposited, since the company matches it. After 3 consecutive years in the pension scheme then you take the full amount away, or if you leave before, just your money. Now deduct all other things ( loss of licence insurance, medical, parking, food and drinks on board etc), for me is about €500 per month.
So now the math is easy. Roughly €6000 in the pocket, and €1200 saved in the pension every month. Is that ok? Well for a home base, on an admittedly good roster, or whatever delivers a desired lifestyle then the glass is probably half full. Otherwise the good news is that there are plenty of options. At home and away.
This is not a Ryanair apologetic post. On the contrary. It's the facts. And of course things can get much better, on a lot of things.
National contracts, medical, loss of licence, just to name a few. Hopefully soon.
So now the math is easy. Roughly €6000 in the pocket, and €1200 saved in the pension every month. Is that ok? Well for a home base, on an admittedly good roster, or whatever delivers a desired lifestyle then the glass is probably half full. Otherwise the good news is that there are plenty of options. At home and away.
This is not a Ryanair apologetic post. On the contrary. It's the facts. And of course things can get much better, on a lot of things.
National contracts, medical, loss of licence, just to name a few. Hopefully soon.
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Originally Posted by Vokes55
So you're trying to tell us that your gross salary is £198,000, or thereabouts?
I very much doubt it.
I very much doubt it.
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Isn't this the new deal that the majority of Ryanair pilots that 'united' were urging everybody not to accept?
Sounds a bit more realistic, but £155k certainly doesn't equate to £9400 net per month.
Sounds a bit more realistic, but £155k certainly doesn't equate to £9400 net per month.
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So we have Ryanair pilots willy-waving about their take home pay with the new deal, a condition of which is no union negotiation, on the same page as others claiming that the unions are going to get them a 'package that's hard to compete with'. Sounds like a united work force all singing from the same hymn sheet...
Still trying to work out how £155k takes home £9400 too
Still trying to work out how £155k takes home £9400 too
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Some people in Ryanair have a seriously long month, work days off and get numerous day off payments etc etc, get paid their absolute maximum for a month and then come on PPRuNe and imply this is there ‘average’ monthly net.
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Any contract where you don’t get your food and water, medical, uniform, loss of license etc. paid by the company is absolutely ridiculous. Not to mention the pension. Sometimes it feels that some people are so “Ryanized” that they can’t tell the difference anymore.
FR puts every single money worth detail in the job advert and then sums it up as a “salary”. What an utter bulls*it. It’s a disgrace to call any of the options as “industry leading conditions”, only industry leading there is the number of people who are leaving the company.
Best decision you can do in there is to leave.
FR puts every single money worth detail in the job advert and then sums it up as a “salary”. What an utter bulls*it. It’s a disgrace to call any of the options as “industry leading conditions”, only industry leading there is the number of people who are leaving the company.
Best decision you can do in there is to leave.
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Originally Posted by feeso
ok so can we all come to a conclusion... a normal line captain @ RF will make a minimum of 5500 Euros to a maximum of 6500 Euros.. off course with the new terms ...
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Easyjet, European contract, is 9000 euros net plus all the trimmings
Norwegian is 7500 euros net per month plus all the trimmings
RYR 6500 and you pay for everything. A looooooong way from industry leading, even among the LOCO´s . Some here suffer from Stockholm syndrome....
Norwegian is 7500 euros net per month plus all the trimmings
RYR 6500 and you pay for everything. A looooooong way from industry leading, even among the LOCO´s . Some here suffer from Stockholm syndrome....
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I, as well, definetly agree with that. No more than 6500€, average 5500€ (as CPT with the "improved package" what they call it...) and thats when you fly around 80-85h. With a Ryanair contract you get ONLY paid around 51 Euros per block hour and of course thats gonna be taxed as well.
They are still below industry standards with salary, pension, allowances!
They are still below industry standards with salary, pension, allowances!
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Originally Posted by VJW
Some people in Ryanair have a seriously long month, work days off and get numerous day off payments etc etc, get paid their absolute maximum for a month and then come on PPRuNe and imply this is there ‘average’ monthly net.
An ordinary line Captain on the current standard contract at FR takes home an average of £6k plus £1k for their pension. The HMRC tax calculator says that is the equivalent of a normal world gross salary of £130k. It might not match Easyjet etc for take home pay or benefits, but there it is.
Nobody is waving willys.
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Yes, but it’s the UK salary.
Other bases will pocket less than that. 5000-5500 Euro/net in Belgium unless things have changed much. Then some things come cheaper than others in different places, child care for instance is expensive in the UK.
Other bases will pocket less than that. 5000-5500 Euro/net in Belgium unless things have changed much. Then some things come cheaper than others in different places, child care for instance is expensive in the UK.
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Originally Posted by Mikehotel152
I don't know about that. What SD and Normal Pilot say about pay at FR seems about right to me.
An ordinary line Captain on the current standard contract at FR takes home an average of £6k plus £1k for their pension. The HMRC tax calculator says that is the equivalent of a normal world gross salary of £130k. It might not match Easyjet etc for take home pay or benefits, but there it is.
Nobody is waving willys.
An ordinary line Captain on the current standard contract at FR takes home an average of £6k plus £1k for their pension. The HMRC tax calculator says that is the equivalent of a normal world gross salary of £130k. It might not match Easyjet etc for take home pay or benefits, but there it is.
Nobody is waving willys.
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I was chatting to a brand new f/o in Dublin a few weeks back, all very enthusiastic but already the gloss was wearing off, talking about the tax advantages of being self employed and how with training costs he would be unlikely to pay any tax for the next 2 years, he’d been there 3 months on line and had already applied to Jet2 & Norwegian, advised to do by his line trainers ?
