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Old 28th Dec 2017, 17:32
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He isn't lying about his take home pay. I know a few TRE's in RYR who are on the new deal and are taking home £9k+ (this will include working a day off or so).

Over the year the monthly take home pay will be less than that, probably somewhere in the region of £7-8k per month for a TRE.

Pay in RYR isn't bad, as the post above states, people don't have an issue with the pay, it's all the other stuff.
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Old 28th Dec 2017, 19:22
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As a line captain on FR contract (with the new increased package) and 70 hrs a month on average the take home pay is about €7000 per month. If one pays pension say €600 per month then is €6400 but in the pension fund €1200 are deposited, since the company matches it. After 3 consecutive years in the pension scheme then you take the full amount away, or if you leave before, just your money. Now deduct all other things ( loss of licence insurance, medical, parking, food and drinks on board etc), for me is about €500 per month.
So now the math is easy. Roughly €6000 in the pocket, and €1200 saved in the pension every month. Is that ok? Well for a home base, on an admittedly good roster, or whatever delivers a desired lifestyle then the glass is probably half full. Otherwise the good news is that there are plenty of options. At home and away.
This is not a Ryanair apologetic post. On the contrary. It's the facts. And of course things can get much better, on a lot of things.
National contracts, medical, loss of licence, just to name a few. Hopefully soon.
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Old 28th Dec 2017, 20:41
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Originally Posted by Vokes55
So you're trying to tell us that your gross salary is £198,000, or thereabouts?

I very much doubt it.
I've been reliably informed that a line CPT is on £125k, LTC £135k, TRE and Base Captains £155k give or take a few grand either way. That's UK PAYE gross figure.
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Old 28th Dec 2017, 20:49
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Isn't this the new deal that the majority of Ryanair pilots that 'united' were urging everybody not to accept?

Sounds a bit more realistic, but £155k certainly doesn't equate to £9400 net per month.
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Old 29th Dec 2017, 10:28
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Aye, that's the new deal - a chunk of those figures are probably related to 'Productivity bonus' and not engaging with unions.
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Old 29th Dec 2017, 11:08
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So we have Ryanair pilots willy-waving about their take home pay with the new deal, a condition of which is no union negotiation, on the same page as others claiming that the unions are going to get them a 'package that's hard to compete with'. Sounds like a united work force all singing from the same hymn sheet...

Still trying to work out how £155k takes home £9400 too
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Old 29th Dec 2017, 12:20
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Well said Vokes55. The Willy waving Ryanair Pilots. Grow up. It’s pathetic.
Unless of course you are management people, who's real aim is to keep the status quo...
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Old 29th Dec 2017, 14:39
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Some people in Ryanair have a seriously long month, work days off and get numerous day off payments etc etc, get paid their absolute maximum for a month and then come on pprune and imply this is there ‘average’ monthly net.
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Old 29th Dec 2017, 19:28
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ok so can we all come to a conclusion... a normal line captain @ RF will make a minimum of 5500 Euros to a maximum of 6500 Euros.. off course with the new terms ...
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Old 29th Dec 2017, 20:15
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Any contract where you don’t get your food and water, medical, uniform, loss of license etc. paid by the company is absolutely ridiculous. Not to mention the pension. Sometimes it feels that some people are so “Ryanized” that they can’t tell the difference anymore.

FR puts every single money worth detail in the job advert and then sums it up as a “salary”. What an utter bulls*it. It’s a disgrace to call any of the options as “industry leading conditions”, only industry leading there is the number of people who are leaving the company.

Best decision you can do in there is to leave.
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Old 29th Dec 2017, 20:17
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Originally Posted by feeso
ok so can we all come to a conclusion... a normal line captain @ RF will make a minimum of 5500 Euros to a maximum of 6500 Euros.. off course with the new terms ...
I know enough people in FR and have read these forums long enough to tell you that, that is the current rate for a line captain. It may well increase in the coming months with the new deals/unionisation.
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Old 31st Dec 2017, 12:17
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Thank you MaverickPrime.
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Old 1st Jan 2018, 07:25
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Easyjet, European contract, is 9000 euros net plus all the trimmings
Norwegian is 7500 euros net per month plus all the trimmings

RYR 6500 and you pay for everything. A looooooong way from industry leading, even among the LOCO´s . Some here suffer from Stockholm syndrome....
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Old 1st Jan 2018, 08:35
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I, as well, definetly agree with that. No more than 6500€, average 5500€ (as CPT with the "improved package" what they call it...) and thats when you fly around 80-85h. With a Ryanair contract you get ONLY paid around 51 Euros per block hour and of course thats gonna be taxed as well.

They are still below industry standards with salary, pension, allowances!

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Old 1st Jan 2018, 10:09
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Originally Posted by Elephant and Castle
Some here suffer from Stockholm syndrome....
ROFL, apposite comparison
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Old 1st Jan 2018, 23:16
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Originally Posted by VJW
Some people in Ryanair have a seriously long month, work days off and get numerous day off payments etc etc, get paid their absolute maximum for a month and then come on pprune and imply this is there ‘average’ monthly net.
I don't know about that. What SD and Normal Pilot say about pay at FR seems about right to me.

An ordinary line Captain on the current standard contract at FR takes home an average of £6k plus £1k for their pension. The HMRC tax calculator says that is the equivalent of a normal world gross salary of £130k. It might not match Easyjet etc for take home pay or benefits, but there it is.

Nobody is waving willys.
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Old 2nd Jan 2018, 04:03
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Yes, but it’s the UK salary.

Other bases will pocket less than that. 5000-5500 Euro/net in Belgium unless things have changed much. Then some things come cheaper than others in different places, child care for instance is expensive in the UK.
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Old 2nd Jan 2018, 06:48
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Originally Posted by Mikehotel152
I don't know about that. What SD and Normal Pilot say about pay at FR seems about right to me.

An ordinary line Captain on the current standard contract at FR takes home an average of £6k plus £1k for their pension. The HMRC tax calculator says that is the equivalent of a normal world gross salary of £130k. It might not match Easyjet etc for take home pay or benefits, but there it is.

Nobody is waving willys.
The only people that include extras such as the £1000 monthly pension contribution are people like you. It’s meaningless. Nobody else in the airline industry does this. The FR pilot remuneration is awful, no matter how you try wrap it up. If your intention in presenting the ‘facts’ this way is to make yourself feel better, then god bless you. If your intention is to confuse and muddy the waters, then so be it. The pilot community has seen through FR claims that they pay market leading salaries... which they never did!
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Old 2nd Jan 2018, 08:43
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and still are not! contrary to all the spin.
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Old 2nd Jan 2018, 08:49
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I was chatting to a brand new f/o in Dublin a few weeks back, all very enthusiastic but already the gloss was wearing off, talking about the tax advantages of being self employed and how with training costs he would be unlikely to pay any tax for the next 2 years, he’d been there 3 months on line and had already applied to Jet2 & Norwegian, advised to do by his line trainers ?
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