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Norwegian Lack of Pilots

Old 11th Jul 2017, 19:03
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Direct Bondi

Stop hijacking threads and set up your own 'rant thread' about Norwegian. This thread is about "Lack of Pilots' not "Let's Deride Norwegian." It is also in the 'Terms and Endearment' section which means most of us are looking for some helpful information about progressing in the aviation industry not incessant criticism or abuse!

You clearly have been shafted by someone in NOR and have an axe to grind as well as having far too much time on your hands to invest in such a low-level subversive operation as this.

I, frankly, am very bored with your highly well considered and well-prepared information and suggest you retrain to be a litigation lawyer.

Your drivel will not stop me considering a career with NOR because I talk to the individuals who already work for them and base my decision on their testimony. Some of them appear to be very happy, some have a few issue.....just like all pilots I know with EK, EY, BA, RYN etc etc

Give your keyboard a rest fella!
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 20:02
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We all should report him to the moderators and get this Direct Bondi banned from posting, it's not only repetitive but also quite irritating.

Direct Bondi you obviously have done something very bad in Norwegian, this is mentioned in previous posts, either give it a rest or try and move on, maybe write to Norwegian and apologise for your conduct and try and make amends and move on.
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 20:30
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If any folks are tired of reading DBs posts, all you have to do is put him on your ignore list, and you will never see his text/comments again unless you choose to. So, as a very interested onlooker/browser, I cannot understand the vitriolic comments/personal abuse sent DBs way.
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 20:35
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Originally Posted by OMDB30R View Post
We all should report him to the moderators and get this Direct Bondi banned from posting, it's not only repetitive but also quite irritating.

Direct Bondi you obviously have done something very bad in Norwegian, this is mentioned in previous posts, either give it a rest or try and move on, maybe write to Norwegian and apologise for your conduct and try and make amends and move on.
I am afraid you can't just get someone banned from a public forum because their posts irritate you! Until Bondi posts something slanderless or illegal I am afraid he has as much right to Air his views as anyone else, no matter how irritating or no mater what his history with Norwegian maybe.
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 21:37
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Yet another round of half arsed Bondi attacks with the only basis for them being that some are bored of reading his posts. If you don't like them don't read them. If you disagree with the points he makes say so and why. If you think third party employment is a good idea and good for the industry or pilots careers then fine. Just say so.
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Old 12th Jul 2017, 09:14
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I am really surprised about the amount of negativity directly led to DirectBondi: I used some of the informations provided by him and published on this forum and could not be more greatful. My old lawyer (a totally clueless guy) managed to win my labour case partially thx to the informations found on PPRuNe on Norwegian...

By the way: if anybody think that been fired is proof of misconduct, you don't belong in this business
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Old 12th Jul 2017, 12:12
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Originally Posted by samca View Post
let's speak serious. Everybody knows that the chance to get some of these bases are 0,0000. BCN? Forget about it...
Just wondering why there is no chances to get BCN base? Everybody want it? Big spanish community?
I'm considering applying as DEC 787 but with the view of being based in BCN or MAD if it ever open in the future.
Can anybody share some light on this?
Also, how is the interview process?

Thank you
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 10:45
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Originally Posted by OMDB30R View Post
We all should report him to the moderators and get this Direct Bondi banned from posting, it's not only repetitive but also quite irritating.
Direct Bondi you obviously have done something very bad in Norwegian, this is mentioned in previous posts, either give it a rest or try and move on, maybe write to Norwegian and apologise for your conduct and try and make amends and move on.
First; thank you for the posted and thousands of private messages of support.

The above highlighted quote is an example of how little some know of their employment contract and employment contracts in general. The self-declared ignorance of these chumps also questions their reasoning ability and by association, their command competence - if they are even flying.

Employment contracts permit instant dismissal without notice for misconduct. In such circumstances an individual would not be provided an LPC nor allowed to continue to fly the airline’s passengers up to the last day of any notice period.

The fact that some are resorting to such inventive and desperate responses, corroborates that no legitimate response is available to answer the abuses permitted by Norwegian’s complex and novel labor scheme. However, I do accept the scheme provides a source of income and aircraft rating currency until an opportunity to be employed by an airline arises.

There is a reason a respected newspaper in Norway, Dagens Naerlingsliv, DN, has referred to the Norwegian regime as:

“Kjos aircraft and Spinning Mill Ltd.” – “The boss and spin doctor”

http://www.dn.no/meninger/2016/07/08...g-spinneri-ltd

next…..(or not)
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 12:56
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Thank you for your 'life energy' analysis. I almost choked on my tofu and celery smoothie in amusement.
There’s a tree in Crawley town centre that requires your attention.
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Old 14th Jul 2017, 14:18
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Interesting article in today's Times about Norwegian. Looks like the CFO has left under a cloud and the last quarter results went down very badly.
Interesting times, have they bitten off more than they can chew?
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Old 14th Jul 2017, 14:26
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The magic money tree will come to the rescue.
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Old 15th Jul 2017, 09:18
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I really don't think Bondi is going to desist in his half-arsed mission to dissuade anyone from joining Norwegian. He's clearly an articulate but embittered individual with a fair bit of spare time which he has decided to devote to his mission. What else would he do that could provide such a sense of achievement? Perhaps he is not getting enough satisfaction from whatever his current employment might be.

Then again, perhaps I am doing him a disservice. Maybe he is a thoroughly altruistic person and is doing us all a great favour by repeatedly giving us the benefit of his unique insight. His 'thousands' (???) of messages of support would back up that view.

Either way, you can be fairly certain that any and all threads related to Norwegian will continue to be derailed and genuine requests for information will be 'answered' with his pompous, patronising and long-winded rhetoric. Perhaps he could do us all a favour and just become a politician.
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Old 15th Jul 2017, 11:12
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It doesn't take any level of rocket science to realise that Norwegian's package is very poor no matter what way you dress it up. They charge a fortune for a 787 rating and pay well below the going rate for captains..even when compared to LCCs. The rostering also looks grim and the level of contentment can probably be measured by the exodus to VS every time the opportunity arises. The only attraction is the 787 - and that novelety will wear off in months. It appears to be supported by sand-pit retirees willing to prostitute themselves back home. If this really isn't the case please enlighten us?
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Old 15th Jul 2017, 12:28
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Is Norwegian here in 5 years?

There is many reasons why Norwegian is short of pilots.
I would go there if they wanted me and I got the base I prefer.
At least I dont have to by my own coffee and uniform!

Norwegian not being able to hire and train sufficient pilots , second year in a row is just pure stupidity.

The pay is for some of us not good enough , and here we are at the core problem:
Norwegian can not afford to pay what they do , never mind more.

Why? They had to sell a stack of Norwegian Bank stocks so as not to default on their loans.
The seat kilometer cost went up and are now way higher then any other loco.
The Director of Finance Mr Foss walked out the door with no notice one day.
So, promptly the stocks dropped 25% over 5 days!!
They are a buisness and are not making a profit.

I hope Norwegian makes it and start treating and paying Pilots better.
But,like all low cost startups it is a Ponzi sceam and some time it works and some times it dont.

Then there is the bet in Norwegian press that OLeary shall snap them up.
( Sorry , could not help myself.)
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Old 15th Jul 2017, 17:21
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The airline had a debt to equity ratio of 0.1 ten years ago. This has increased to 9.6 in recent years.

I cant find any other airline with a debt equity ratio higher than 1. Average seems 0.6, Jet2 is 0.04!! Debt has to be serviced.

I have to say Norwegian reminds me of the original Air Europe in the late 80s.
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Old 15th Jul 2017, 20:58
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Is there demand though? Anytime I've compared them to others across the Atlantic they've been anything but cheap. Their premium product of usually dearer than VS and I'm pretty sure it's not better.
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Old 16th Jul 2017, 07:45
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NAS lease all of the aircraft and have an astonishing amount of debt , Monarch with there new Boeings have bought them cash in hand and will be leasing them back (have no idea how this works) which releases huge amounts of cash , it's what Ryanair do .
Supposedly they will be starting LH in around 2 years as well

Thomas Cook will inevitably go through a Ts & Cs mill very soon , heard that the main company are not really interested in the airline itself
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Old 16th Jul 2017, 12:54
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Not sure how Monarch have ended up with 45 new 737 Max either but at $5bn it was not cash in hand.
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Old 16th Jul 2017, 14:08
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Mafia money , greybull and the mantagezzas are best mates . A nice little money laundering behind the scenes I'm sure !
Company should have gone bust years ago
Been around since 1967 I think
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Old 16th Jul 2017, 14:47
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Snapper where do you get the rubbish that you post?
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