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Monarch must be one of the best places to start your career as a pilot.
I don't know anyone from my time at OAA that earned as much as I did in the first few years, not by a long way!! Over £55k gross first year, not including pension contributions and this was at 85% salary. (Money isn't everything, but to a debt ridden inexperienced FO it means a lot with house prices the way they are)
I get treated 100% better by my company. My T's C's are fantastic and my overtime pay is double or triple theirs.
I'm sure there are good people at every airline, but as mentioned before, its like a flying club. I just did 4 days flying in a row and none of it felt like work (2 sectors is great).
'Those' people we've all flown with are so rare I only know of 1 at my base, the largest MON base.
Feel secure that MON engineering is some of the best in Europe.
Great training department.
Work hard like all short haul carriers in the summer then chill out for the winter (sorry) on 30 hours a month average doing weeks of standbys not being called. That said, I did maximum 75 hours a month summer '16, easy peasy
Can't help with the recruitment side.
I don't know anyone from my time at OAA that earned as much as I did in the first few years, not by a long way!! Over £55k gross first year, not including pension contributions and this was at 85% salary. (Money isn't everything, but to a debt ridden inexperienced FO it means a lot with house prices the way they are)
I get treated 100% better by my company. My T's C's are fantastic and my overtime pay is double or triple theirs.
I'm sure there are good people at every airline, but as mentioned before, its like a flying club. I just did 4 days flying in a row and none of it felt like work (2 sectors is great).
'Those' people we've all flown with are so rare I only know of 1 at my base, the largest MON base.
Feel secure that MON engineering is some of the best in Europe.
Great training department.
Work hard like all short haul carriers in the summer then chill out for the winter (sorry) on 30 hours a month average doing weeks of standbys not being called. That said, I did maximum 75 hours a month summer '16, easy peasy
Can't help with the recruitment side.
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Yeah even so and correct me if I am wrong the cadet pay is 38k a year full time, non core pilots get 10/13th of that which is like 30k plus £14 per hour flight pay, say 700 a year if your lucky which totals about 40k! And you have to pay for your type rating these days.
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Thank you 
I have a few friends in the company and they all love it.
I definitely can't complain coming in as non type rated and not having to pay for the rating.
It is a 10/13 contract but that suits me having some time off in the winter allowing me to do certain things, very similar to my current company which I love!
I have a few friends in the company and they all love it.I definitely can't complain coming in as non type rated and not having to pay for the rating.
It is a 10/13 contract but that suits me having some time off in the winter allowing me to do certain things, very similar to my current company which I love!
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Cadet pay is for nil experience candidates (monarch actually respects previous experience) ,
Monarch pay for type rating (paid for mine anyway)
Realistic Snr F/O take home is around 45-50k (everything included/Full time) ,
You can decide what you want to do in the airline now if you are in the core group of pilots , 75%,50% . 12/13ths ,full time etc....
most have found that 75% works out best just for lifestyle /pay .
Some live to work others work to live
Monarch pay for type rating (paid for mine anyway)
Realistic Snr F/O take home is around 45-50k (everything included/Full time) ,
You can decide what you want to do in the airline now if you are in the core group of pilots , 75%,50% . 12/13ths ,full time etc....
most have found that 75% works out best just for lifestyle /pay .
Some live to work others work to live
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Really...
Realistic Snr F/O take home is around 45-50k (everything included/Full time) ,
I don't believe there are any FO's at MON, regardless or scheme, earning that.
It's now been the best part of a decade since I was a member of the Spotty M family, in many ways I'd have to agree with the posters on their historical view of the place. All that being said, it did have its challenges that is no doubt, as has been eluded too the company was notorious for being tight fisted with respect to hotels and add-ons in the form of breakfasts etc.
My all time favourite memory of the place was just before or just after I left, a certain 330 Captain decided a low pass near the crew hotel in a certain part of Africa was required, on hearing about this incident the Flt Ops dept issued a please explain......a report was duly received..."bird avoidance"
A close second place, the 330 having recently been introduced was being sent to exotic climes, on one occasion to a rather tight ramp ringed with coconut palms. The worst subsequently happened and a wingtip met a grisly fate amongst the coconut trees during a tight turn onto stand....the Captain was from there after known as "Virgil" (thunderbird 2 pilot) for his expertise at parting coconut trees...he also from time to time received mysterious donations of bounty bars in his cubbyhole.
That in my time summed up the place, fun yes, professional always but most importantly a practical no nonsense approach to most airline things, there were one or two exceptions as there are in all airlines but they were usually stomped on pretty firmly.
My all time favourite memory of the place was just before or just after I left, a certain 330 Captain decided a low pass near the crew hotel in a certain part of Africa was required, on hearing about this incident the Flt Ops dept issued a please explain......a report was duly received..."bird avoidance"
A close second place, the 330 having recently been introduced was being sent to exotic climes, on one occasion to a rather tight ramp ringed with coconut palms. The worst subsequently happened and a wingtip met a grisly fate amongst the coconut trees during a tight turn onto stand....the Captain was from there after known as "Virgil" (thunderbird 2 pilot) for his expertise at parting coconut trees...he also from time to time received mysterious donations of bounty bars in his cubbyhole.
That in my time summed up the place, fun yes, professional always but most importantly a practical no nonsense approach to most airline things, there were one or two exceptions as there are in all airlines but they were usually stomped on pretty firmly.
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Monarch man , nicely summed up !
Station calling , 50k take home is pretty normal? Get taxed around 2k a month , basic is 58000 , add around 12k for flight pay - 70k then other bits ( voyage etc... ) 73k , 24k off for tax = 49k that's excluding any day off payments which can increase pay hugely .
In October I managed to somehow get 3 in a month roughly an extra 1200 (after tax ) , think it was £5200 that month !
Please don't think I'm trying to willy wave , just saying the facts , all true
You can find the pay on pilot jobs network you will see that it adds up
Station calling , 50k take home is pretty normal? Get taxed around 2k a month , basic is 58000 , add around 12k for flight pay - 70k then other bits ( voyage etc... ) 73k , 24k off for tax = 49k that's excluding any day off payments which can increase pay hugely .
In October I managed to somehow get 3 in a month roughly an extra 1200 (after tax ) , think it was £5200 that month !
Please don't think I'm trying to willy wave , just saying the facts , all true
You can find the pay on pilot jobs network you will see that it adds up
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58k is a year 5 scale and full time which nobody is until May. Any new joiner will be on 10/13th of the year 1 pay which is 54! Also flight pay is £14.50 per block hour so to make 12k you would need to do 830 hours a year, which with Monarch's quite winters is impossible (I never did more than 700 and 650 was more typical, although I appreciate this is slightly base dependant), also I don't remember anything like voyage pay defiantly not 3 grands worth. Day of working payments are good money but the company don't like giving them and they are an exception not a rule, I was getting maybe 3 or 4 a year! Also during the summer with 7 days off a month you physically can't work a day off! For anyone joining the company be advised that your take home pay will be considerably lower than the figures quoted above I think you will lucky to get 50k before tax.
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Obviously a new joiner would be less , I think Monarch pay is fantastic considering the 2 sector days and the relationship with the fellow crew , compared to other airlines it's got to be up in the top
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I'm glad you're pleased. I always heard good things from my friends there. It was saddening to see the uncertainty prevail in recent times, but hopefully that's behind you.
Regarding the money - don't fixate on it. The fact is that with the UK tax system the way it is, disparities between various airline pay grades are actually hugely eroded. When you make 5 grand less than x per year, that's little over a couple of hundred quid a month.
I'd say the biggest financial benefit of the likes of Tom/Mon/TCX are that you can be based in parts of the country where realistically, your costs of living are upwards of a grand a month less. Yes, I appreciate you can commute down to LHR if you're that way inclined, but again, that costs money and disrupts your days off/lifestyle.
That there, is the biggest benefit of the holiday carriers. Leverage that lifestyle to your advantage. Friends that lived up north based in NCL and the like enjoyed marvellous lifestyles. They joined BA in a panic, because their employer hit shaky ground, and every single one that I know regrets it.
Regarding the money - don't fixate on it. The fact is that with the UK tax system the way it is, disparities between various airline pay grades are actually hugely eroded. When you make 5 grand less than x per year, that's little over a couple of hundred quid a month.
I'd say the biggest financial benefit of the likes of Tom/Mon/TCX are that you can be based in parts of the country where realistically, your costs of living are upwards of a grand a month less. Yes, I appreciate you can commute down to LHR if you're that way inclined, but again, that costs money and disrupts your days off/lifestyle.
That there, is the biggest benefit of the holiday carriers. Leverage that lifestyle to your advantage. Friends that lived up north based in NCL and the like enjoyed marvellous lifestyles. They joined BA in a panic, because their employer hit shaky ground, and every single one that I know regrets it.
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I must agree that money can't buy my 12 minute commute to work ! Over a year of work I'm getting a huge amount of time extra in bed , which in this industry is priceless!
I personally work out of BHX , never any holding delays (except in extreme circumstances) and a 10min walk to the crew room
I must agree that money can't buy my 12 minute commute to work ! Over a year of work I'm getting a huge amount of time extra in bed , which in this industry is priceless!
I personally work out of BHX , never any holding delays (except in extreme circumstances) and a 10min walk to the crew room
Monarch pay for type rating (paid for mine anyway)
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My best guess is those having to pay upfront for type rating are cadets. NTR but experienced guys who joined with me were bonded.
Regarding the 737, training is taking place internally and I think 73 rated folks are being recruited as well.
Regarding the 737, training is taking place internally and I think 73 rated folks are being recruited as well.