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I´m always sorry for anyone to loose a job. However, mainline SAS taking over is no surprise. The SAIL project is about to end - as it should - and as planned. The SAIL setup was only a way to make the mainline SAS pilot unions feel pressured. Times have changed now. SAS no longer needs the SAIL operation and so it will be flushed out and dumped. Sorry if you guys didn´t realise this early on and that you were not made aware, but in the real world, real world stuff happens - often quite obvious. Sorry for those who will pull the short straw at SAIL.
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Just skimmed your posting history over the past year; besides the large number of falsehoods, there’s very little that’s positive or even constructive
(no dog in this fight by the way)
(no dog in this fight by the way)
I admire your language skills. Perhaps you should have skimmed your milk as well then. The big boy in the school yard policing around much, are we? Sad. Laughable at best.
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Thanks very much; imagine a word having more than one meaning...
In a large number of your comments on threads (including this one) you forecast the downfall of this and the collapse of that, but very little of it seems to have come true.
Having friends who work for SAIL, I’d be interested to know what you base your prophecy on this time.
This is a hard enough time for all pilots as it is, I don’t think someone telling people they’re to be flushed out and dumped is particularly helpful.
In a large number of your comments on threads (including this one) you forecast the downfall of this and the collapse of that, but very little of it seems to have come true.
Having friends who work for SAIL, I’d be interested to know what you base your prophecy on this time.
This is a hard enough time for all pilots as it is, I don’t think someone telling people they’re to be flushed out and dumped is particularly helpful.
Firstly, you should learn to focus on the topic and not get diverted so easiely.
Secondly, pehaps being a tart less sensitive to words would make life a bit easier for you and people around you.
Thirdly, I didn´t share any ill wishes for the SAIL pilots.
I´d share my predictions with you - when or if I elect to do so. Meanwhile, you can wait and see. yeah.
Secondly, pehaps being a tart less sensitive to words would make life a bit easier for you and people around you.
Thirdly, I didn´t share any ill wishes for the SAIL pilots.
I´d share my predictions with you - when or if I elect to do so. Meanwhile, you can wait and see. yeah.
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Haha, a very Trump like response. I definitely know more than you but I’m going to wait and see if it comes true before I put my name to it
If you’re unaware of the tone of your original post then there’s really not much I can say to you on it. Picking others up on their use of English is clearly not a strong suit of yours so, best to be avoided.
Hopefully what Ramrise has commented above, that the SAIL model remains part of the future plan, is correct.
If you’re unaware of the tone of your original post then there’s really not much I can say to you on it. Picking others up on their use of English is clearly not a strong suit of yours so, best to be avoided.
Hopefully what Ramrise has commented above, that the SAIL model remains part of the future plan, is correct.
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Gotta go
If SAIL was created ,as SAS management like to claim, to create value and help a pilot shortage, it has to go as it is no longer needed when SAS mainline plans to fire 650 pilots. If it was a union busting project, it definitely has to go. Either way, got to go. Hate the game and not the player, please.
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3 of the 9 SAIL A320s have just been re-registered and been included in SAS mainline.
SAS management struggles to defend to the public that taxpayers rescue money is being used to secure foreign jobs whilst laying off Scandinavian employees.
SAIL crews are again night stopping in ARN flying SK flights out of base.
SAS management struggles to defend to the public that taxpayers rescue money is being used to secure foreign jobs whilst laying off Scandinavian employees.
SAIL crews are again night stopping in ARN flying SK flights out of base.
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So, SAS fired nearly 600 pilots, and are now hiring again. Sounds familiar? So far only Wizz, Ryanair and the worst of the worst have done something similar. In addition, to screw the fired pilots over even more than by just firing them and not respecting the five-year right to be rehired that is set down in the CLA, the new companies will fly the A320Neo, and CAE lists a rating and 500h on type as a requirement. For the 200 fired OSL-based FOs that smarts even more than «just» being fired, as they were on the 737, and as such they are even excluded from applying for their own jobs!
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Probably right, but what about the Lauda/Buzz/Malta stuff?
Either way, this move puts SAS at the very bottom of the list of bottom-feeders if you ask me.
Either way, this move puts SAS at the very bottom of the list of bottom-feeders if you ask me.
Any truth in the rumor that Norwegian are rehiring ex crew?
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+ a handful of 737 pilots in Stockholm!
So the company has negotiated with CAE to drop the 500 hrs requirements for SAS pilots recently transfered to A320! Hooray for all 737-pilots who never transfered in the first place
+ a handful of 737 pilots in Stockholm!
So the company has negotiated with CAE to drop the 500 hrs requirements for SAS pilots recently transfered to A320! Hooray for all 737-pilots who never transfered in the first place
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SAS has truly come to a new low. Honestly makes me embarrassed for all Danes, including myself, that have been applauding the Danish system and it’s fight against the constant battering of T&Cs in our industry. SAIL signs a collective agreement with a different union and can now not be touched. In the meantime SAS has been bailed out by the Danish and Swedish governments for taxpayers money. We just hit rock bottom.
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And yet, one of the Swedish ex-SAS pilots with A320neo experience applied yesterday, and was told to PFO today..
And yet, one of the Swedish ex-SAS pilots with A320neo experience applied yesterday, and was told to PFO today..
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Apparently, the last word about that has not been said yet. Though I wonder why they would be interested in ex SK-pilots anyway, issues about re-employment with SK, their history. The last thing they want is a bunch of unified pilots. Must be a lot easier to take some "fresh blood" off the street. Behind the curtains the selection of candidates could well be weighted anyway, hours on type or not.
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Think most of the 600 pilots was at the end of the career or closer, it was the same scheme for British, AF, Lufthansa etc..
Do you know if they are looking for pilots who they flew last 6 months?
Do you know if they are looking for pilots who they flew last 6 months?