Non type rated easyjet recruitment?

[louisFLIGHT]

I'm in the talent pool, I finished my training in February, no news from EZY since February... We were supposed to start the Type rating around September.

[truckflyer]

Originally Posted by louisFLIGHT

I'm in the talent pool, I finished my training in February, no news from EZY since February... We were supposed to start the Type rating around September.

Sorry but that will most likely not happen.

[larki]

Hi there
although I am not a pilot I am the father of a 21year old who went down the road of mpl training with easyjet and completed his full training plus simulator at gatwick on airbus a320 only to have his contract voided bu easyjet three days before his base training to get his licence, I know these are unprecedented times but he was so close to getting his licence and now it has left him with a £125k bill to pay and no job, We are also concerned about how long his certification will last before it will need renewing, he has got a reply from BALPA who cannot really help in the present circumstances.

[dirk85]

Originally Posted by bigbangx2

Does anyone know how the holding pool is managed during a crisis like that?
I mean is it still valid a few years later or is it cancelled and back to the recruitment phase?

Nobody knows because there has never been a similar situation.
They might extend the holding pool but I would be extremely surprised if there was any recruitment in the next 2/3 years, so I would not hold my breathe.
Pilots in easyJet are bracing for possible redundancies, recruitment is on nobody’s mind at the moment

[morane34]

Originally Posted by larki

Hi there
although I am not a pilot I am the father of a 21year old who went down the road of mpl training with easyjet and completed his full training plus simulator at gatwick on airbus a320 only to have his contract voided bu easyjet three days before his base training to get his licence, I know these are unprecedented times but he was so close to getting his licence and now it has left him with a £125k bill to pay and no job, We are also concerned about how long his certification will last before it will need renewing, he has got a reply from BALPA who cannot really help in the present circumstances.

Sorry to say that but this is so stupid to invest this amount in order to get a job. Aviation is a very unstable market and a good pilot always have a plan B.
Cheers

[PilotLZ]

Originally Posted by larki

Hi there
although I am not a pilot I am the father of a 21year old who went down the road of mpl training with easyjet and completed his full training plus simulator at gatwick on airbus a320 only to have his contract voided bu easyjet three days before his base training to get his licence, I know these are unprecedented times but he was so close to getting his licence and now it has left him with a £125k bill to pay and no job, We are also concerned about how long his certification will last before it will need renewing, he has got a reply from BALPA who cannot really help in the present circumstances.

I am very sorry indeed to hear this. My five cents are that you should check with the flight school whether this situation classifies as grounds for them to provide some free additional training to convert the MPL into a frozen ATPL. I know that on past occasions this was done whenever the integrity of the airline was deemed to be at risk (e.g. during one of the past FlyBe crises). I don't know whether it will work this time round, but anyways, good luck!

[larki]

Originally Posted by PilotLZ

I am very sorry indeed to hear this. My five cents are that you should check with the flight school whether this situation classifies as grounds for them to provide some free additional training to convert the MPL into a frozen ATPL. I know that on past occasions this was done whenever the integrity of the airline was deemed to be at risk (e.g. during one of the past FlyBe crises). I don't know whether it will work this time round, but anyways, good luck!

many thanks for your reply and we shall at some stage be in contact with CAE and will in due course give you their answer

[larki]

Originally Posted by morane34

Sorry to say that but this is so stupid to invest this amount in order to get a job. Aviation is a very unstable market and a good pilot always have a plan B.
Cheers

thankyou for being so helpful and encouraging !!!

[lear999wa]

Originally Posted by larki

Hi there
although I am not a pilot I am the father of a 21year old who went down the road of mpl training with easyjet and completed his full training plus simulator at gatwick on airbus a320 only to have his contract voided bu easyjet three days before his base training to get his licence, I know these are unprecedented times but he was so close to getting his licence and now it has left him with a £125k bill to pay and no job, We are also concerned about how long his certification will last before it will need renewing, he has got a reply from BALPA who cannot really help in the present circumstances.

Very sorry to hear about the situation that you and your son have found yourself in, along with the rest of us. What we have been hearing from upper management is that they are trying to preserve as many jobs as possible. Your guess is as good as mine, and I don't think that anyone really knows how this situation will develop. My advice would be to sit tight until we start flying again( as the back-office is currently furloughed). And then try to see what easyjets intentions are, and go from there. If it looks like it might take years or worse( airlines historically have tended to rather take flight school students who have freshly graduated over graduates who have been sitting around waiting for a while)
It mighy be worthwhile to convert from mpl to frozen ATPL. Consider uni. One thing is for sure this to will pass. And if you are flexible, patient and with sufficient funds you will find a find a flying job.
All the best, and I hope that it all works out for you and your son.

[FI 21]

Originally Posted by larki

Hi there
although I am not a pilot I am the father of a 21year old who went down the road of mpl training with easyjet and completed his full training plus simulator at gatwick on airbus a320 only to have his contract voided bu easyjet three days before his base training to get his licence, I know these are unprecedented times but he was so close to getting his licence and now it has left him with a £125k bill to pay and no job, We are also concerned about how long his certification will last before it will need renewing, he has got a reply from BALPA who cannot really help in the present circumstances.

I am sorry to hear that larki but like others have said here the best is to convert the licence into a frozen ATPL and if possible do some uni or any job (if dont want to have another loan) and then wait until all this goes. When I finished my ATPL in 2004 there were not many jobs available in the airlines so my father suggested to do a flying instructor course and that was the best thing for me at that moment, I was able to find a job in a FTO and spent 3 years flying as a flight instructor, I also towed gliders.
Maybe general aviation and uni or a job at the same time could help and your son should be ready with his knowledge fresh when the airlines recruit again.

Al the best!

[Pilot2/b]

Originally Posted by larki

Hi there
although I am not a pilot I am the father of a 21year old who went down the road of mpl training with easyjet and completed his full training plus simulator at gatwick on airbus a320 only to have his contract voided bu easyjet three days before his base training to get his licence, I know these are unprecedented times but he was so close to getting his licence and now it has left him with a £125k bill to pay and no job, We are also concerned about how long his certification will last before it will need renewing, he has got a reply from BALPA who cannot really help in the present circumstances.

Sign of the times unfortunately, also the fact that “daddy” has made this comment says it all...

[Banana Joe]

Originally Posted by Pilot2/b

Sign of the times unfortunately, also the fact that “daddy” has made this comment says it all...

Very useful input

[larki]

Originally Posted by Pilot2/b

Sign of the times unfortunately, also the fact that “daddy” has made this comment says it all...

I came on here primarily to warn others not to fall into this trap that covid created and also any suggestions how to deal with the licencing issue as to expiry of mpl, apart from two very kind answers, I did not expect sarcasm and downright rudeness from some others on here, I thought professional people would be above that but I was wrong !!! I will not be posting on here anymore as all I seem to get apart from a few genuine people is snide remarks.

[Stone Cold II]

Maybe he doesn’t know “Daddy” made the comment, maybe Daddy is trying to find out if there is any help he can offer his son who might be very distraught with what’s just happened to him and currently can’t think straight.

I would suggest as others have said, get it converted to a frozen ATPL. Instructor course then get a job teaching which would keep him current in flying and it is enjoyable, however the pay isn’t great and in the current climate jobs maybe few and far between. It’s nothing more than bad luck with the timing. Aviation is generally up and down and we have had unprecedented growth the past 10 years. Good luck and keep the head up.

[Banana Joe]

Originally Posted by fivecandles

He’s got a point though

I must be blind then, I don't see that. That was just an inconsiderate input.

[Douglas Bahada]

I predict that 25% of cabin crew will be surplus to requirement. I think the loads on most flights will be less than 150 so 4 crew per sector will not be needed. There has been precedent set on redundancy and/or relocation in the past. As much as our pilots wont like it, it is essentially last in first out. Points heavily weighted for length of service other points for training qualifications and points deducted for disciplinary issues. Closures by base will not happen as many have transferred at the behest of the company. If bases are to be closed I expect you will have to take what given and it will be achieved in a manner that is cost neutral to the company.

[Banana Joe]

It's 1 cabin crew for each 50 passenger seats installed if I remember well. So 4 attendants will still be needed even if there are only 10 passengers.

[Denti]

Originally Posted by Banana Joe

It's 1 cabin crew for each 50 passenger seats installed if I remember well. So 4 attendants will still be needed even if there are only 10 passengers.

Indeed. Of course they could simply reduce seat numbers and thus reduce the required number of cabin crew. Seeing that there are quite a few Airbus A320 in Dresden to get six seats more, at considerate cost (180 to 186) for the last two years, that seems somewhat counterintuitive.

[giggitygiggity]

Originally Posted by Banana Joe

It's 1 cabin crew for each 50 passenger seats installed if I remember well. So 4 attendants will still be needed even if there are only 10 passengers.

We've used seat blockers in the past which disable the seat entirely and can be used to reduce the number of required crew. For starters, the plan is not to use the middle seats so right away, that's 1/3rd of the seat capacity down. 156 seat A319 becomes 104. Block another 5 and you only need 2 crew.

[plikee]

Originally Posted by giggitygiggity

We've used seat blockers in the past which disable the seat entirely and can be used to reduce the number of required crew. For starters, the plan is not to use the middle seats so right away, that's 1/3rd of the seat capacity down. 156 seat A319 becomes 104. Block another 5 and you only need 2 crew.

How can you block the middle seat without blocking the window seat? The only way would be telling the pax they can't seat there however the seat is still there available so I doubt the authority will ease on the safety regulations for the sake of cost saving for the airlines.