Michael O'Leary talking about pilots
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Michael O Learys claim that Pilots work 18 hours a week ?
However, the comment on taxi driving was unfortunate as was the complaint pilots are the least productive of all the employees because they are restricted. However, the host looked a bit puzzled and also pulled MOL up on some of inconsistencies, so kudos to him.
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Spot on Built4Speed!
Pathetic, a thread 4 pages long with people crying like little children about something 'bad' MOL said!
MOL must be very pleased with himself and the psychological tests the recruitment team uses: employees that are just smart enough to push the correct buttons, but obviously way too dumb and selfish to get organized!
p.s. how is that big exodus (i.e. RYR pilots selling their @ss to some Middle Eastern slave driver in return for a bigger and shinier jet) going?
Pathetic, a thread 4 pages long with people crying like little children about something 'bad' MOL said!
MOL must be very pleased with himself and the psychological tests the recruitment team uses: employees that are just smart enough to push the correct buttons, but obviously way too dumb and selfish to get organized!
p.s. how is that big exodus (i.e. RYR pilots selling their @ss to some Middle Eastern slave driver in return for a bigger and shinier jet) going?
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Yeah, FR pilots do the same job as you but THEY accepted the conditions they work under. There is enough info on this site regarding the conditions at FR so, fair enough, accept the job offer but don't then start bitching about it. They went in with their eyes open ............. I hope?
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p.s. how is that big exodus (i.e. RYR pilots selling their @ss to some Middle Eastern slave driver in return for a bigger and shinier jet) going?
On the flipside, I continue to have ZERO sympathy with the whingers and moaners on here who sold their souls and then decided it was all a bit unfair, what utter hipocrisy and self-centered bilge.
You all signed on the dotted line and took your chances, just like us here in the ME, moaning and wailing now just proves what a bunch of selfish and foolish twits a large majority of you are
At least the REPA and Ialpa boys have got a pair and are trying to do something about it.
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The only happy people I know personally, run their own businesses and have control over their lives.
Yes they've had ups and downs but they are now all looking forward to early retirement twenty years earlier than most employees. Some of them were financially self sufficient in their 30's. And retirement for these guys doesn't mean sitting in the local library in their slippers waiting for God. One guy I know is busy skiing, traveling ( proper traveling where you can enjoy where you go ), mentoring young entrepreneurs, attending top name concerts etc, etc. And all this when he wants to do it, not when screw-control let him.
It's not difficult or a mystery how to screw money out of people, just a mystery why so many people are happy to have money screwed out of them. MOL has simply stumbled on a good way to do it.
They don't teach how not to be gullible in schools I gather. What a pity.
Signing up to work for Ryanair is like joining the army. Nobody really cares if you get your legs blown off ( metaphorically speaking ). You wear a uniform, you do as you are told. I wish I had realised that twenty years ago, but now it is too late !
Yes they've had ups and downs but they are now all looking forward to early retirement twenty years earlier than most employees. Some of them were financially self sufficient in their 30's. And retirement for these guys doesn't mean sitting in the local library in their slippers waiting for God. One guy I know is busy skiing, traveling ( proper traveling where you can enjoy where you go ), mentoring young entrepreneurs, attending top name concerts etc, etc. And all this when he wants to do it, not when screw-control let him.
It's not difficult or a mystery how to screw money out of people, just a mystery why so many people are happy to have money screwed out of them. MOL has simply stumbled on a good way to do it.
They don't teach how not to be gullible in schools I gather. What a pity.
Signing up to work for Ryanair is like joining the army. Nobody really cares if you get your legs blown off ( metaphorically speaking ). You wear a uniform, you do as you are told. I wish I had realised that twenty years ago, but now it is too late !
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"Comfortably numb"
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!” - Upton Sinclair
I know it's a lot of reading, especially for today's generation who want instant gratification and an immediate upgrade when they have 3-4000 hours, but it's an eye opener of how the system, i.e. FTL's, data monitoring & propaganda ("pilots only work 20 hours per week") is used against us pilots.
Download it for your iPads, laptops and what have ya's, and read it on a long(er) flight!
Humans are a flawed species. Our minds are easily manipulated. We don’t like pain. We prefer instant gratification. We are susceptible to mass delusion. We will often choose hope over critical thought. Those with higher IQs will regularly attempt to take advantage of those with lower IQs. Fear and greed are the two motivations used by the minority in power to control and manipulate the majority.
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O to be a fly on the wall when one of his cabin crew ( that he plans to train to fly his planes ) lands on his office in Dublin Airport in a strong crosswind
Maybe his pilots should all go on strike, simultaneously and see if that changes his opinion on the matter
Maybe his pilots should all go on strike, simultaneously and see if that changes his opinion on the matter
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We know Ryanair management don't care about pilots or cabin crew and engineers for that matter. However that's in their nature. Who allowed them get away with this- we the pilots did! 10 years ago the basic salary was over 80 grand. Now it's less than 60. Contractors new contracts get rid of the concept of home base. Now your home base is anywhere you are sent for three weeks or more. Reliable Information has it that now if you want leave in summer you got to "buy" it with another leave day - 5 days in summer will cost you 10 days. 4/3 rosters are on the horizen. Cabin crew in certain bases are been told only 9 month contracts available in your base now, if you want 12 months pay you have to move to another part of the world. They don't need us for 12 months, just think about that and where it will lead.
And things are going to keep getting worse. They are looking for the " floor". And if you are thinking- things are not too bad, at least I am OK - they will get around to you. That's what they guys 10 years ago said, how many of them are left on a proper contract? Probably 1%. Each contract is worse than the last. We now have a management team that tell us they don't care if we leave, they don't really care what we do. Our lack of resistance has meant that a management team that once was quite innovative and market leading have become lazy and arrogant. Instead of innovative solutions they now have only two solutions to every problem- cut wages and charge passengers more hidden charges. Time to wake them up or ship them out. They are they ones pocketing easy money from our complacency and laziness.
I am not a fan of IALPA or unions. When i hear union i keep thinking of Bob Crow!
That said I believe we must organize ourselves. This is last chance saloon. Next year expansion stops, they will be able to cover the roster. They will continue to attack us unless we stand up and fight. Don't expect this journey to be easy or pain free, it won't. MOL will fight tooth and nail and make no mistake he is good. Don't expect IALPA to fight for us, they union is only a framework, the fight must come from Us.
MOL will never like us, we can live with that. He doesn't respect us and we deserve that but we can change it. We have previously folded at the first obstacle management put in front of us and sold out our colleagues. See where it got us!!
You want change , you want respect? Earn it, stand up and be counted. Join your union and fight for our career.
And things are going to keep getting worse. They are looking for the " floor". And if you are thinking- things are not too bad, at least I am OK - they will get around to you. That's what they guys 10 years ago said, how many of them are left on a proper contract? Probably 1%. Each contract is worse than the last. We now have a management team that tell us they don't care if we leave, they don't really care what we do. Our lack of resistance has meant that a management team that once was quite innovative and market leading have become lazy and arrogant. Instead of innovative solutions they now have only two solutions to every problem- cut wages and charge passengers more hidden charges. Time to wake them up or ship them out. They are they ones pocketing easy money from our complacency and laziness.
I am not a fan of IALPA or unions. When i hear union i keep thinking of Bob Crow!
That said I believe we must organize ourselves. This is last chance saloon. Next year expansion stops, they will be able to cover the roster. They will continue to attack us unless we stand up and fight. Don't expect this journey to be easy or pain free, it won't. MOL will fight tooth and nail and make no mistake he is good. Don't expect IALPA to fight for us, they union is only a framework, the fight must come from Us.
MOL will never like us, we can live with that. He doesn't respect us and we deserve that but we can change it. We have previously folded at the first obstacle management put in front of us and sold out our colleagues. See where it got us!!
You want change , you want respect? Earn it, stand up and be counted. Join your union and fight for our career.
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l believe l`m right in saying this - l can`t find the newspaper reports - but
MOL bought a 6k euro cab licence for his limo so that he could use the
bus lanes in Dublin to avoid the plebs in rush hour traffic.
Normal protest about anything is unlikely to work with this man, and
don`t forget, he introduced the £50 c.v. levy, £150 interview levy, etc.,
within 3 weeks of 9/11, to milk the hundreds of qualified and current pilots
out of work and on their ars*s.
That is the reality.
MOL bought a 6k euro cab licence for his limo so that he could use the
bus lanes in Dublin to avoid the plebs in rush hour traffic.
Normal protest about anything is unlikely to work with this man, and
don`t forget, he introduced the £50 c.v. levy, £150 interview levy, etc.,
within 3 weeks of 9/11, to milk the hundreds of qualified and current pilots
out of work and on their ars*s.
That is the reality.