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Michael O'Leary talking about pilots

Old 21st Jan 2012, 10:04
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Michael O'Leary talking about pilots

Michael O'Leary talking about pilots!

Watch from about 26 mins onward:-

RTE Late Late Show - Michael O'Leary

Like the way he says pilots only work 18 hours per week - I wish!!
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 10:12
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Lies, damn lies and statistics.

900 hours per annum (the legal limit) divided by 52 = 17.3

No mention of standby time, reporting time, vacation time etc etc etc

Typical O'Leary twisting the facts for headlines
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 10:16
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BT, I don't want to argue about MOL but 900 divided by 52 gives me about 17, not 117...

Have another beer
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 10:28
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what about dividing your duty hours by 48, since most people enjoy about 4 weeks leave, then the result is closer to 40 hours a week than 17.
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 10:37
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MOL hates pilots, staff, aviation authorities, politicians and customers. But he's entertaining.

Peacocks. That's a good one.
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 10:46
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Ryanair pilots; join IALPA and then let the battle lines be drawn.
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 10:56
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A free ticket for everyone in the audience!!!!!!!

A few years ago, at the company annual dinner I won 2 free tickets on Ryanair.

With the cost of phone calls to Dublin to book and airport taxes etc. the total cost was about 70 pounds. I could have bought the tickets for less.

MoL gives nothing away!!!

However he's right that Ryanair have brought the cost of flying down so that almost any body can now afford to fly.
Unfortunately that includes a lot of undesirable and rude people.

I only fly Ryanair if I have no other choice.
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 10:59
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You have to admit that he's a brilliant orator and self-publicist. There are of course precedents, other people in history of whom one could say the same.
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 11:00
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Reminds me of the fact that if I (or Mr. O'Leary) screw up in the workplace nobody gets hurt.
However those "lazy" pilots have to have a slightly(!) more attentive to detail work ethic....
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 11:04
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Grrr

Last year I did 800hrs (F/O). Add on the 45mins prior (official, but 1hr 15m in reality) and 30mins after, gives me 1800hrs duty with no allocated breaks or lunch period. I am then forced to take 6 weeks a year hols. Meaning the average working year (due to our roster pattern) means I work 10 months and one week.

We work normally 3 weeks a month (again due to the roster pattern). Meaning my average working week is 58hrs. ..........not counting standby's and extra duty for delays, cancellations, etc.

I normally get €80.5 per hour for my 800hrs. But when you factor in the extra (official) report times then I am actually only earning the equivalent of €35 per hour for my total time at the 'office'.
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 11:06
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Hes an idiot. What his staff say about him is much worse. Roll on IALPA.
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 11:26
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The worst thing to have happened to aviation was this ....thing.Has made hundreds and hundreds of millions for himself and the Ryans whilst screwing his staff with all his low life scumbag ways.Still the only company in Ireland that isn't bankrupt so must be a genius.A shining example of 80s management theory gone wrong.
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 11:33
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"Like the way he says pilots only work 18 hours per week - I wish!!"

It is a legal requirement to keep a record of annual duty hours of all pilots. Thus this claim can be easily challenged, and the correct data published, under a freedom of information request to IAA. If IALPA was so minded it might have a good PR moment against RYR. It could then ask the open question of "if they are telling porkies about this, what else might they be telling porkies about?" That's politics.
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 11:38
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His disdain for what should be amonsgt the most valued of his employees is the best advert for IALPA yet. If RYR pilots don't join, they deserve what they get!
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 12:05
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Angel Ryanair Pilots

MOL has a great way of motivating the pilots by comparing them to glorified taxi drivers.
I can see why a lot of the guys at the pointy end are brassed off.
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 12:15
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Showing such disrespect for your own workforce will turn against you on the long run.
What is MOL trying to achieve?
A massive walkout?
A strike?
Everyone joining IALPA? (they should)

I agree. This is the best free advert that IALPA could have only dreamt about.
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 12:25
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The guy clearly has done something right to make Ryanair in to what they are today.

I'd have thought the business be more successful if he had the pilots on their side and not using slating them as glorified taxi drivers on a complex taxi.

The excuse as to why they charge 50 euros for the job application was dreadful and just another shitty way of getting money out of the would-be's who are going to jump and pay for it.

Got a few mates at Ryanair now who say after the novelty wearing off of the jet flying they regret making the move to go there. Each of them trying to go to the sandpit now because they're fed up with the lifestyle working for MOL.

Did make me laugh tho with the customer comments and reasons for wanting to take out the toilets because "the London underground is safe to stand on"
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 12:53
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Folks, you are pissing and moaning on the wrong forum. MOL has made this claim many a time over the past 5 years. Many a pilot on PPRuNe are aware that MOL is equivalent to a floating turd in a punch bowl. It's time to fight back... words with words.

Why not petition RTE for equal TV time? The little gnome own RTE? Provide charts indicating flight and duty times. Leave emotions out of the presentation and stick only to the facts and keep it strictly business. Don't sink to that little pissant's level. It's the best way to get the message out to the public. You guys should counter each claim made that that putz in every media available to the FR pilots.

I doubt the FR pilot would come close to being fired. You think FR would want to risk another retribution law suit?

Good luck and go get him.

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Old 21st Jan 2012, 13:35
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And when O'leary moves on what then?

I would be surprised if his replacement also thinks more of his horses than he does of his own workforce.

He is a one man band!
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Old 21st Jan 2012, 14:09
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Medias Attention

If you have nothing to do then watch the man.... Entertainment with no substance. The Media who gives him too much attention is as well guilty that the BS he is distributing makes alot of waves. So counteract and invite the Media also to a Press Conference held at..... any place you want and you get the same attention as he. IALPA does nót help you, take your destiny in your own hands.
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