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Old 24th Mar 2011, 04:57
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Air Baltic

Hi All,

I'm an experienced FO wishing to know current salary on the 737 with Air Baltic please?

Thanks all, safe flights.
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 05:27
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check it out on Nordic forum.
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 13:41
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Air Baltic 737 FO Salary

Hi Cefey,

Appreciate the reply, searched around 30 pages in Nordic forum but still couldn't find indication of FO salary for 737.

Any ideas from memory or recomended thread please?

Thanks again.
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 17:08
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Im not sure. I think I saw it somewhere.
But you will get answer much sooner there.
but here is some info on estonian company. So it should be something like that:
Estonian Air A/S jobs, payscales and entry requirements.
Avion Express jobs, payscales and entry requirements.
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 20:35
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I don't know exactly, as I was in the other seat, and a contractor, but I think take home was about 2000-2500e. Probably NOT what you want to hear , but I think that was about the correct figure.
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 22:55
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If you've got time on the 73, surely they will not give you year one FO salary. I know I wouldn't accept it. If i would clear a minimum of 3 I could accept it due to the really low cost of living there.

Anyone any thoughts on this? I mean they seem to be really trying to get people there due to the high volume of leavers. This puts you in a good bargaining position during the interview, especially if you have alternatives. Play hardball, it's a shitty business.
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 01:17
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@ Capt Maverick / Cefey

Thanks for the info. I've 1500TT so other oppurtunities are double the salary.

How was the Roster / Days off for home visits / Standard?

Thanks again, Safe flights.
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 09:37
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the actual salary for a B737 f/o is 2880 euros
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 09:54
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cmdivini, see my posts # 754/725 on airB thread in Nordic forum , it explains how the Days Off/Roster situation is.

drfaust, I am not so sure of your assertion that it is "cheap" to live there.

If you want a decent appartment, rents are not far short of European norm, restaurant prices likewise.

Supermarkets/shopping in general, a little cheaper, but just a "little". Fuel for your car, same as rest of Europe. Nightlife ? slightly cheaper, depending on where you go

It has changed a lot since they became EEC, and will change more for the worse when they finally adopt the I am sure.

The only thing that hasn't changed is the salaries, the locals in most jobs are earning very little, compared to costs. Most cabin crew for example, were living way out of town and needing to take 2/3 buses trams to get to/from work as they couldn't afford the rent to live anywhere in the centre.

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Old 25th Mar 2011, 10:27
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Hi captplaystation.

I was comparing the cost of living in Riga to my current place of residence, which is probably one of the more expensive places to live in Europe. In this respect Riga would be a welcome change. You can rent an apartment in the old part of town, which is renovated and around 60m2, for 550-600 euro's every month. Where I am you can add a thousand to that figure.

Admittedly, the rest of the living expenses I can't really compare as I haven't ever been in riga, but if I was an experienced 737 driver I would ask for more money in the interview.
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 10:39
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Yep, you are correct for rental prices, I was comparing with a modest sized city elsewhere, rather than a European capital

Don't know about asking for more money though, I doubt they would bite on that one

During Summer they can have experience in the left seat via contractors, in the RHS they are not too worried about the experience level & there are any number of keen young lads willing to pay for TR's to get a job. Even if airB had to foot the bill, it is all done in house as they are a TRTO, so doesn't in reality cost that much.

Sure you can always ask to be slotted in on a higher payscale. . . . but

Well, I wish you luck if you try, but I suspect they will merely take someone else instead who accepts what they offer.
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Well I'm going to try. I've got another job offer but honestly would prefer checking out Riga, just not at any cost. If I would get 3K clean in the pocket (after tax), then we're in business.


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faust
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 18:36
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Just had an email today from a colleague still there. He told me that recruitment policy had changed, and all new non type rated applicants have to pay for both the type rating AND line training.
Line Tng on 737 is currently 70/Hr for 300hr

Now that they have started to see crew as a revenue source (like so many other companies) I am even less optimistic of the chances of anyone squeezing more money from them.

Why pay more, when you can have someone else pay YOU more
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 21:26
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Hey captplaystation,

Do you know if the above is true for new Q400 FOs, paying for line training
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 21:38
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WTF !!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 21:47
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They must be joking ;-).

Honestly, I would rather file for bankrupcy.
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Old 26th Mar 2011, 07:58
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SuperStall1,

Don't know, I will try to find out.
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Old 26th Mar 2011, 08:40
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It's for the whole fleet. Even experienced pilots working in the company for years have to sign a bond when they change type.


Be warned that you have to pay 10% dividend tax yourself over your "nett" salary...
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Old 27th Mar 2011, 09:43
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Do you get Air Miles with that?

It would be cheaper to buy a ticket.
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Old 28th Mar 2011, 09:28
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For entire fleet?? Even for the Q400 or F50 which are almost non-existant elsewhere??

Disgraceful.
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