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Old 11th Nov 2010, 13:14
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''My research tells me only 2 will arrive with the rest being sub-leased out, due first class seat not being available!''

VS have never had a first class. J (In VS speak - Upper Class) has always been their premier product.
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Old 12th Nov 2010, 15:26
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..just got the email for the a/c. Has anybody an idea what can be expected @ the test and interview?
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Old 14th Nov 2010, 18:14
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Has anybody heard if there is going to be a numerical/verbal reasoning test?

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Old 18th Nov 2010, 19:50
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Hi guys, anyone hear anything about the interview? Is it any different to the old interview? I hear that there is likely to be some recruitment next year so be good to get some info in advance (if indeed i actually get an interview...).. Good luck to those attending at the moment....
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Old 18th Nov 2010, 20:25
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I think it's an HR led, touchy feely, lovefest. Without the love.

VAA used to be cool.

Not anymore I suspect.
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 08:07
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Are Virgin a long term choice?

With no connections to other big operators I have withdrawn my hat from the Virgin pool. I am not confident that they will be in existance in 10 years. I hope I am wrong and wish you all well in your interviews.
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 10:46
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I joined in 2006 and left in 2009 under voluntary redundancy. I was asked if I'd like to reapply for my old job (mistakenly, I thought I'd just be told "hi, how are you? how was that management Command you held down whilst you've been away from our stumbling business? Let's not make this chat too quick, HR may be suspicious, have another biscuit etc, OK that's long enough, welcome back")

So, I thought that perhaps I may go back, but then it became obvious that I'd have to undergo a load of psycho babble and touchy feely stuff.

Not for me thanks, I was meant to attend for assessment a day or two ago. I wrote on a day before saying thanks, but no thanks.

Remember, I'd already done the job for them and had an A340 rating, oh I also have an A330 rating too - but I'd better be put through the mill just in case.

I've no idea if they'll be about in 10 years time, but I'm not prepared to be treated like a total novice forever.

There is absolutely NO chance of a quick Command in Virgin Atlantic. If you're happy with that and like the idea of lonely bullet trips and constant jet lag, then I hope you get my place.

Good luck to everyone - but be aware what you're signing up for.

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Old 19th Nov 2010, 14:49
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Hey Stan - Ever thought that they might not want you back !!!!

FTR- All Ex VS Pilots who took redundancy and new hires will be required to Pass a SIM check + On line Tech & Psychometric test, before being invited for interview. (An Airbus Rating is a must).

Good luck with your management role at WIZZ.
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 15:22
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I think I'm with Stan on this one.

Playing Devils Advocate here.

Is taking redundancy fairly recently and then wanting back, any different to
an unpaid sabbatical for 3 years or a career break for 4 years (baby producing for eg).
I'd be extremely ticked off to have to go through all the irrelevant crap that some HR nomark deems relevant from their " manual on how things should be done so VS dont get sued".

Years working for said Co. previously, thousands of hours and a type rating only requires a quick glance at Bloggs training record and a bit of dial-a-mate before a PFO or welcome back letter hits the mat!
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 15:31
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I've always wondered why interviews are held for experienced pilots. We're such a small community in the UK that I would have thought that 3 phone calls would get you all the reliable info you'd want
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 16:11
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Holer Moler:

I don't really think that VAA would go to the bother of inviting people to an extended assessment just to reject them for no reason. If they didn't have any interest, I would have been told no thanks before that waste of time and money.

So, with that in mind it seems irrelevant whether they did or didn't want me back doesn't it? I didn't think it was worth the effort - or the lack of opportunities - or the risk of failing a set of tests that I don't have time to prepare properly for. And make no mistake you should be prepared!!

People can look down their noses at Wizz all you they like. Bottom line: its been good for me; Captain, management role, project work......on it goes. And who says it's my career? It could be for a year or two, then who knows? They, like anyone, could be bust, or world beaters!!

Future at Virgin? RHS for ages.

At least I can pick and choose whether I give up my Command. I can always be an FO again. Any time. But, it's not so easy to go the other way.

Good luck in the future. It just wasn't for me. That's why I left in 2009, I shouldn't have even considered going back. I hated the job, but not the people.

As I say, good luck for the years ahead.

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Old 19th Nov 2010, 16:44
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Stan. Have you become a management pilot? Also a Captain? Well done!
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 16:58
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Only by chance. Honestly.

I really do honestly think that for the right person, the job at VAA is hard to beat.

I never felt that I was that person. So, I never really felt happy. I couldn't cope with the anxiety of being 1000's of miles away in Japan for instance.

What's important is that VAA keeps going, keeps offering good terms & conditions and keeps being, on the whole (but not for everyone) an employer of choice. Without such companies our industry is f?cked.

My post isn't aimed at saying VAA is bad. Quite the opposite, just for me it didn't work.

My life was complicated by a couple of unfortunate occurrences whilst there. I don't think I could go back and not forget that unfortunately. But, that's more about me than them..........

Good luck all!!
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Old 21st Nov 2010, 08:05
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Anyone who has been on their selection day yet care to give a brief low down about the day.
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Old 21st Nov 2010, 19:31
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It would seem not, Brian Fontana...Maybe they're all out celebrating!!?
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Old 21st Nov 2010, 22:01
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.....or waiting for a contract to sign.........
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 21:16
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No news until after all interviews are complete at the end of this week.
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Old 25th Nov 2010, 14:53
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watching the letterbox intently at the moment
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Old 26th Nov 2010, 08:36
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Out of interest.. Can anyone give a breakdown of extra's to Salary? I see that the basic is 48+ but i expect there are a few, substantial, allowances to add to that?.... What would a new F/O expect to take home on an ave month and are there annual increments, etc...? This info isn't really published anywhere...or is it? Thanks in advance, fella's.
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Old 26th Nov 2010, 10:43
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Frank I belive ppjn is up to date on pay for VS but this is what I understand from speaking to people.
48K basic
18.5 per flying hour contracted to 750 hrs per year so just under 14000 per year if you fly all your hours.
$600-$1000 USD down route allowances on the average month mostly spent.
Year one expect anywhere between 3200 and 4000 per month take home. Increments are 2000 on your basic salary every year. I maybe wrong but I think there are 14 or 16 FO increments. The union are currently trying for a payrise of 15%, on what I don't know and in reality will they get it?
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