Jet2 Recruiting now
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From: this green & pleasant land
Well, it looks like jet2 missed the boat with the TCX seasonal guys who have now been offered permanent 100% contracts.
However, it gives an advantage to the people who remain interested in a position. In my interview last week I made it clear that I would only be interested in a 100% roster, something at the time the interviewer was not willing to offer. Maybe in the light of this news jet2 will wake up to the fact they can no longer take advantage of the employment market: Maybe a tipping point has been reached?
Good luck to all & don't sell yourself short.
However, it gives an advantage to the people who remain interested in a position. In my interview last week I made it clear that I would only be interested in a 100% roster, something at the time the interviewer was not willing to offer. Maybe in the light of this news jet2 will wake up to the fact they can no longer take advantage of the employment market: Maybe a tipping point has been reached?
Good luck to all & don't sell yourself short.
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From: SW London
Hi Minty,
In answer to your question, I discussed this with a guy on my open day and we came to the following conclusion .... can't see how they would enforce the £4,500 if you never started training with them as it was explained the bond was to cover "initial sims and line training". If you never got to that stage then I don't see how they could enforce it. It would take a clever lawyer to argue that case.
i.e. If another airline hires people in the interim and Jet2 lose out on someone they wanted then they have only themselves to blame for penny pinching for a few months and not offering a 100% contract up front.
It would appear that TCX has recognised that come April finding a qualified pool of pilots eager to sign up for 7 months will be harder now that the sandpit and companies like Jet2 are scooping up people just now in their droves. The pool is being overfished.
I genuinely hope this is the first nail in the coffin of P2F, line training bonds, 70% contracts etc.
In answer to your question, I discussed this with a guy on my open day and we came to the following conclusion .... can't see how they would enforce the £4,500 if you never started training with them as it was explained the bond was to cover "initial sims and line training". If you never got to that stage then I don't see how they could enforce it. It would take a clever lawyer to argue that case.
i.e. If another airline hires people in the interim and Jet2 lose out on someone they wanted then they have only themselves to blame for penny pinching for a few months and not offering a 100% contract up front.
It would appear that TCX has recognised that come April finding a qualified pool of pilots eager to sign up for 7 months will be harder now that the sandpit and companies like Jet2 are scooping up people just now in their droves. The pool is being overfished.
I genuinely hope this is the first nail in the coffin of P2F, line training bonds, 70% contracts etc.
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From: Damn Foggy Isle
I'm afraid I think you'll find that Jet2 are under the impression that pilots are still in cheap plentiful supply. They are telling us that they have had overwhelming interest from applicants at all levels, even from those in the sandpit wishing to return to the UK. The end of p2f no where in sight yet I fear. As for the £4500 bond, I would think it depends what you sign for - ask a solicitor.
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From: SW London
I'm afraid I think you'll find that Jet2 are under the impression that pilots are still in cheap plentiful supply
HR Departments and the management pilots at all low T&C airlines will have a rough idea of who has applied as Emirates send for references before interviews. They will also be aware that BA and Virgin will open recruitment soon and DHL are starting too.
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From: Behind you all the way!
A colleague of mine has just told me Jet2 have got a half page ad' in this weeks Flight' looking for B737/757, Capts & F/O's T/R'd, Non T/R'd, Experienced, Non-Experienced, ANY base.
If this is correct, does this mean, they aren't getting anybodies or does it mean they realise the whole debarkle has been a bloody shambles & they're starting again?
Answers on a post card to.....
If this is correct, does this mean, they aren't getting anybodies or does it mean they realise the whole debarkle has been a bloody shambles & they're starting again?
Answers on a post card to.....
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From: SW London
I'm more inclined to think that they have interviewed around 120+ in the past week for 100+ jobs. Within that they will find that some are not suitable, some currently employed who went to Leeds to see if "the grass was greener on the other side" and some not willing to accept their T&C's despite being fully briefed before going attending.
When you combine that with a start in about 4 months they surely know that a number they select will be snapped up in the intervening few months by a host of other airlines who seem to be growing their pilot workforce then an extra advert seems to make sense.
They may also have a higher attrition rate than projected over the winter from current employees.
When you combine that with a start in about 4 months they surely know that a number they select will be snapped up in the intervening few months by a host of other airlines who seem to be growing their pilot workforce then an extra advert seems to make sense.
They may also have a higher attrition rate than projected over the winter from current employees.
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From: wherever I lay my hat
At interview you will be asked for your base preference, and also if there is a base or bases that you will not accept; final allocation of places is based on the company requirements and it would be up to you to accept or decline the offer.
At the moment we don't have a 757 in BFS.
At the moment we don't have a 757 in BFS.
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From: SW London
I gave up trying to second guess Jet2 at 5pm yesterday, felt I was wasting too much of my limited and already diminishing cells to do so. I feel you need a PhD in Chaos Theory and a Masters in Quantum Physics to even get close to an idea of what they are up to.
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From: London
Good post, Split. Coming in at the tail end and having not read all of the foregoing, did the Company keep any of this Summers temps on ?
I have to say that it is just a bloody market place & both sides, us, as pilots and them, employers, will respond to the prevailing conditions. I do think that we have done this to ourselves, BUT, wholly understandable. There will always be a group who will always do ANYTHING in order to advance. That group will be preyed on by commercial operators. All of this history but J2 will learn that if you prey too hard, quality will suffer.
For those fortunate enough, walk away from this dreadful mess. For those scambling for a foothold, at any price, grab what you can & move on, quickly. Be loyal to your Licence & professionalism. Not what is painted on the side of your aeroplane.
I have to say that it is just a bloody market place & both sides, us, as pilots and them, employers, will respond to the prevailing conditions. I do think that we have done this to ourselves, BUT, wholly understandable. There will always be a group who will always do ANYTHING in order to advance. That group will be preyed on by commercial operators. All of this history but J2 will learn that if you prey too hard, quality will suffer.
For those fortunate enough, walk away from this dreadful mess. For those scambling for a foothold, at any price, grab what you can & move on, quickly. Be loyal to your Licence & professionalism. Not what is painted on the side of your aeroplane.
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From: Inside the roster matrix
I do hope that Cameron’s excessive cutbacks don’t set off a double dip.
If we go ahead with paying for the TR (and I am finding it hard to get it anyway) what happens if we are laid off having paid the money?
No insurance will cover the loss....
If I can acquire the capital, I hope that Oxford don't expect it all upfront - daily payments only in this climate me thinks.
And sod paying 20% Vat
If we go ahead with paying for the TR (and I am finding it hard to get it anyway) what happens if we are laid off having paid the money?
No insurance will cover the loss....
If I can acquire the capital, I hope that Oxford don't expect it all upfront - daily payments only in this climate me thinks.
And sod paying 20% Vat