Ryanair exodus, what is the plan?
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Lads, 95+ RYR aircraft grounded this winter. I know it for sure and from the reliable source. That is one third of the Ryanair fleet. They do not have crews to operate. That shows you the resignations scale.
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From: Planet Earth for a short visit
Well ground the rest of the fleet over the winter, whilst you are quiet and not going to be earning much anyway.
Show O'Leary,Ryan,Dooney etc where the real power lies.
Short term pain, long term gain.
Show O'Leary,Ryan,Dooney etc where the real power lies.
Short term pain, long term gain.
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On a side note if you are leaving the company there is an important thread and contact details on REPAweb for Brk pilots, if you follow that thread you might leave ryanair with far more money in your pocket. What are Ryanair going to do if you do not pay the "fine"? Sue your company? Which they forced you to setup and forced you to use their accountants, does anyone believe they want that to make it to court?
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Leeds 65:
It's not legal to give a sh1tty reference. The worst they can do is say you worked there and then left, and as for "flagging you up" as a future passenger? What are you going on about? What would they do? Offload you? Beat you up? Don't be so ridiculous.
VJW: Interesting point that, but remember you SHOULD tell your licensing CAA if you are off sick for 21 or more days.
It's not legal to give a sh1tty reference. The worst they can do is say you worked there and then left, and as for "flagging you up" as a future passenger? What are you going on about? What would they do? Offload you? Beat you up? Don't be so ridiculous.
VJW: Interesting point that, but remember you SHOULD tell your licensing CAA if you are off sick for 21 or more days.
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From: UK
Narrow runway- glad someone noticed, and liked my idea - even if I was joking a bit.
Of course if you're sick for more then 21 days in a row then you should notify your CAA. However, you're not sick for 21 days in a row, just those 5 days out of every 9 (if you're on a 5/4 roster) for 3 months that you are required to work your notice. They like a doctors note for 3 days or more, but you don't have to do it. Not only are you leaving, you no longer worry about an 'unauthorised absence' on your file!
Just a thought, but maybe worth doing it in the final month of the notice period, as they would probably not pay you anyway (for reasons mentioned above), so once paid on the 2nd month call sick the whole of the last month ahaha
Of course if you're sick for more then 21 days in a row then you should notify your CAA. However, you're not sick for 21 days in a row, just those 5 days out of every 9 (if you're on a 5/4 roster) for 3 months that you are required to work your notice. They like a doctors note for 3 days or more, but you don't have to do it. Not only are you leaving, you no longer worry about an 'unauthorised absence' on your file!
Just a thought, but maybe worth doing it in the final month of the notice period, as they would probably not pay you anyway (for reasons mentioned above), so once paid on the 2nd month call sick the whole of the last month ahaha
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It's not legal to give a sh1tty reference.
(I've learnt a lot about aviation from this site, so I have to give something back where I can.
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An employer or ex employer can say pretty much anything about you in a referance, so long as it is true. If however untruths are said in the referance, purly in attempt to harm your future employment it would be considered to be a "criminal offence" and this could carry unlimited damages, and would probably be a lot easier and cheaper to fight, than that of defamation.
Because of this, I doubt if any employer would give a false referance.
They don't have to make anything sound nice though!
Because of this, I doubt if any employer would give a false referance.
They don't have to make anything sound nice though!
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From: ...............
No ....because a new type rating is an IR and license renewal its included in your 30K+ euro fee to Ryanair. You will have to give the IAA another €360 for the privilege of them issuing you with the valid paperwork when you pass...but what you should do is join Balpa/Ialpa and join REPA. Get educated, get protected. Forget about a quick command( 3-4 years) as expansion will have stopped by then. If Emirates have stopped hiring you maybe be stuck with them for awhile.
...Might as well know what you are letting yourself in for ...and try be a little more prudent where you post your queries 
....Oh hang on I see you are Belgian 
...Might as well know what you are letting yourself in for ...and try be a little more prudent where you post your queries ....Oh hang on I see you are Belgian
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400 sounds about right. Whats interesting is most of these guy's who were F/O's ready for command upgrade. Now they are gone there is a hole in the company's roster for the summer. Look at the 'Storm McGinley' DEC and Non type rated DEC advertisement. Look at the sprint to Budapest to 'rescue' the Malev pilots. If rumours are to be believed an approach was made to Air Baltic for their skippers only to be rebuffed (I think they were told to F**k off by chief pilot
) Allegedly no command upgrade courses in East Mids from Nov to Jan. ..Anyway bottom line not enough bums for LHS in Summer. Now watch them blame grounded airplanes on the pilots it will be 'our' fault. Don't sign new contracts , sign the unity pledge , stop working days off and changing shifts to facilitate the compant that never facilitates you !. It could be great but its gonna cost them and us in the short term !
) Allegedly no command upgrade courses in East Mids from Nov to Jan. ..Anyway bottom line not enough bums for LHS in Summer. Now watch them blame grounded airplanes on the pilots it will be 'our' fault. Don't sign new contracts , sign the unity pledge , stop working days off and changing shifts to facilitate the compant that never facilitates you !. It could be great but its gonna cost them and us in the short term !
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From: UK
They have also hired 400 cadets in the same period.
Admittedly some of those left will have been Capts, but they have upgraded a few FO's also. Plus there were quite a few Capts on part time who can be called upon again for full time in the summer. I would not bank on them struggling this summer as much as some of us are expecting
Admittedly some of those left will have been Capts, but they have upgraded a few FO's also. Plus there were quite a few Capts on part time who can be called upon again for full time in the summer. I would not bank on them struggling this summer as much as some of us are expecting
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450 new typerating courses, at 30000 euro, with a 50% profit... (50% depending on how the calculate the costs)
The FR training department make a greater profit than many airlines !!!
funny thing is. they are now training so many cadets they have capacity problems training new instructors...
The FR training department make a greater profit than many airlines !!!
funny thing is. they are now training so many cadets they have capacity problems training new instructors...