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Old 18th September 2011 | 12:18
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A small base would only have one or 2 aircraft like Perugia
Perugia is not a base. Did you mean Pescara?
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Old 18th September 2011 | 15:16
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Yeah hold my hands up my mistake, don't know much about the Italian bases as live the 'easy' life in the UK, and by easy mean not commuting to get to a base abroard
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Old 19th September 2011 | 10:07
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And you need to pay for your medical and simulator for OPCs
I had already taken the RST/OPC/LPC costs into account in my figures because they are deducted before you get paid. The cost of the medical each year is a minor cost compared with everything else: My accountant steals more than that each month...
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Old 20th September 2011 | 10:10
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Any truth in the rumour that Ryanair is to stop doing CPL/ATPL upgrades to stop people from leaving?
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Old 20th September 2011 | 10:29
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I very much doubt it. Any employer would surely take someone in those circumstance and unfreeze them at next LPC or even beforehand. It's not as though it's a big deal.

Anyway, as far as I know FR are encouraging unfreezing to get people ready for the command course.
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Old 20th September 2011 | 16:29
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Can someone please tell me what Ryanair pays for TRI/TRE?
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Old 20th September 2011 | 16:42
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Rhino,

Can I ask why? Just curiosity........

FYI, no DEC currently. Also, apart from small minority, many TRI were SFI first and then TRE (tis the preference). Finally, mucho competition for the TRE positions that do come up, so a newbie coming in will have slim chance of the above.....
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Old 20th September 2011 | 17:42
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Just looking at some options....
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Old 20th September 2011 | 18:36
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jason, could you explain the difference between SFI and TRI, I thought they were the same thing.

thx
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Old 20th September 2011 | 20:42
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sfi=synthetic flight instructor (simulator instructor)

tri=type rating instructor
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Old 21st September 2011 | 07:56
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Not all TRE's are ex-SFI's, far from that. I know a couple who were DEC when they joined. The minimum qualification to apply for TRE position is LTC iirc.

But maybe the Training Department makes everybody believe it's the 'prefered option' in order to fill the SFI vacancies??.... A lot of ex-SFI are not even selected to become LTC. And remember, after upgrade the SFI is not used as TRI by the company (there might be exceptions of course). So it's more a qualification 'on paper'...
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Old 21st September 2011 | 11:28
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Putting SFI/TRI etc to one side and that DECs are not being recruited at the moment can someone tell me what a TRI/TRE gets at Ryanair. Thanks in anticipation.
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Old 21st September 2011 | 11:50
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well done smith, but that doesn't really answer the question, I have SFI on my licence, but does that allow me to work as a TRI?

What does a TRI do that the SFI cannot and is there even a payscale at RYR for TRI?

AFAIA, you need SFI on the licence before you can be a TRE, but you can get both at the same time as I did excactly that at a previous company.

once again, can someone tell me what a TRI does at RYR? and is there a payscale?
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Old 21st September 2011 | 12:56
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Slightly off topic, but for info, the SFI is a company authorisation issued by the national authority. It isn't a rating that follows you if you leave the company. Once you leave, you no longer have the SFI. The TRI is a rating endorsed on the ratings page of the licence, and valid for 3 years like the TRE authorisation, that stays in the licence even if you leave the company who you were a TRI for.

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Old 21st September 2011 | 13:40
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Thanks VJW

well I would really like to know what SFI's get paid or not! When you say authority I am assuming you are refering to the IAA?

I think I am getting the picture....so what do TRE's get
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Old 24th September 2011 | 19:51
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Terminate BRK contract without Notice Period

I would like to know if anyone has terminated his/her BRK contract without giving the Notice Period. By contract if you want to terminate with immediate effect your contract, you have to pay Brookfield 5000e, so what happens if you are not willing to pay them, do they prosecute you?
In the instance I pass some screenings I am even thinking of paying the 5000e fine to leave asap, but if they don't start court proceedings, what's the point in paying them??

Thanks in advance!
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Old 24th September 2011 | 20:57
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You signed the contract.

Do one of the options written in the contract.

option 1 - Hand in resignation letter to BRK and work the 3 months notice.

option 2 - Hand in the resignation letter along with 5000 euro and leave ASAP

Do not just leave and pay nothing.I have 'heard' they chase you and in the unlucky event of traveling on a Ryanair flight in the future - you will be flagged up.

They may also be nasty enough to somehow contact the place you are going or give you a bad reference if you need one.

I know you don't have to tell them where you are going,but you never know - your next employer might ring Ryanair up to 'enquire' about you out of the blue.Then your bunched

Its very difficult - but just play the game and give them a crocodile smile as you leave.Most of us will be in this position some day if things don't improve significantly in the interim.
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Old 24th September 2011 | 23:04
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Most decent airlines don't care what Ryr have to say about you anyway, if you've passed their assessments etc, they'd probably think they are able to judge your character well enough.

Hand you're notice in for 3 months, and just call sick the whole 3 months.....what can they do about that?
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Old 25th September 2011 | 00:34
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I and many of my present colleagues have left RYR in the last 6 months. Some of us worked zero notice, some of us worked all of it but they always came up with some excuse to demand some money from us, 3 months notice, OCC course etc. Personally I told them to keep my next 'wage' towards the leaving penalty and I haven't heard anything since. It certainly didn't cover the €5000 they were expecting. To clarify, I and all of my other colleagues were Brookfield slaves not RYR employees. Also, our current employer was well aware that we were breaking the 3 month notice period and were not in the slightest put off by that - as stated at interview I was self-employed and available immediately. I don't for one minute think Brookfield/RYR would want to see there outrageous contract scrutinised in a court so wouldn't expect any legal proceedings. Brookfield were slow in providing 'date references' for the ID but did do so after some pressure from my current employers, failing that I believe that a letter from your crooked accountant would be acceptable for the issue of an ID. Hope that helps.
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Old 25th September 2011 | 11:56
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Lads, 95+ RYR aircraft grounded this winter. I know it for sure and from the reliable source. That is one third of the Ryanair fleet. They do not have crews to operate. That shows you the resignations scale.
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