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Ryanair exodus, what is the plan?

Old 13th Sep 2011, 22:21
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I will be forever thankful that I turned down Ryanair when I was unemployed and between contracts. At the time I said .. I would rather eat worms .. and it still holds true.
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Old 14th Sep 2011, 07:47
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widered, you are a dreamer mate. The actual facts is that you will get nothing at all. Ryanair does NOT recognize any union. If you try, you will fail and as a consequence you'll be sent out to Kaunas to do unpaid airport standbys all the year. Remember that you are responsible of all this aviation crap because you and your friends were once dyeing to join. Now it's too late for crying. You knew everything before and you agreed!

Save your money, save your energy, and try BA


Some great routes out of Kaunas, life is cheap, and girls are lovely



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Old 14th Sep 2011, 09:40
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wind check, methinks thou doth protest too much........
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Old 14th Sep 2011, 09:46
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You got what you deserved sucka's!!!!!! Ha ha ha ha ha

That is mature.
Did Paul get what he deserved?
Dignity and respect.
Everyone reading these posts will see who diplays this, and who doesn't.
MOL and W/C your flags are now up the pole, so to speak.
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Old 14th Sep 2011, 09:57
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Listen wind check,well done pat on the back but I really couldn't give 2 f**ks if you got into BA or not ok.

Yes we know Ryanair are a horrible bunch.When I joined it was bad,but it keeps getting worse.

Your correct in some respects - a union cannot achieve miracles,and might not negotiate fantastic increases overnight(over time Yes). But at a minimum it will prevent further declines in T and C's.

Long term this place could be great with a union,we just have to stop the rot first.
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Old 14th Sep 2011, 12:31
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Windcheck you can't send us all to Kaunus I don't think 2000 of us can fit there!
Reality is when there are planes on the ground you will be dragged to the negotiating table with your tail between your legs !

I am not a dreamer and I have no doubt it will work! Why would Ryanair put so much money into preventing us from doing so ?
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Old 14th Sep 2011, 13:43
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Wally

I worked out 650 hours (my usual yearly hours) at my rate of 70.5 after sim, and deducted the 3% for the accountants = 44,450 euro gross, Ģ38k sterling, and factor in the fact I have to pay for everything and it's about 15k less than any other 737 FO in Europe. Look at ppjn the usual salary is Ģ48/49 sterling without flight pay pension etc....
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Old 16th Sep 2011, 21:59
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ppjn

speaking of ppjn, now that it's requiring people to register you can see that there are more than 6 times as many ryanair pilots registered as easyjet pilots! Speaks for itself
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Old 17th Sep 2011, 15:07
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I logged onto ppjn and it asked or a cv and I wasn't particularly keen on given a cv to a website that I have no way of verifying who runs it and what they are doing with my cv.

Did anyone else feel like that?
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Old 17th Sep 2011, 15:32
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just logged in myself, had to give it a load of details, i just uploaded a blank doc for the CV as your right who the F77K are they to ask for a CV

anyway, the website seems useless now, all I could do was see who else had logged in and click advert banners? whats the point in that,, there used to be some good info on there,,,, if this is the relaunch then they should not have bothered.
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Old 17th Sep 2011, 20:01
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Hi there!
Yes ppjn is crap. It used to be a great website a few years ago, but lately it was updated every 2 months and now it's even more crap.

Anyway... I was speaking to a friend in Ryanair he told me he's got a 5/3 roster and is very tired. I though you guyas had 5/4 roster, but according to my friend the new deals tend to overall a 5/3 crapy rythm. I thought also the FO salary was 5000 euros/month, but my friend told me he got 2200 euros last month after irish tax, and still has to pay for private health insurance, pension, meals at work (11 hours duty).

Where do people go after Ryanair?
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Old 17th Sep 2011, 21:00
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5/3 roster are for the small bases, and the pay depends on how many hours you have for which pay scale (per hour rate) then depends on how many hours you work, busy months you can take up to around 7500 euros pre tax, hope that helps
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Old 17th Sep 2011, 21:38
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Danger Where do people go after Ryanair?

Directly to hell as they have relevant experience, or McDonalds for a pay rise and a better public perception of their choice of employer would be my best guess.
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Old 17th Sep 2011, 21:52
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What do you call small base?
He told me that his captains make 6500 euros/month (take home) working like hell...
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Old 17th Sep 2011, 23:36
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A small base would only have one or 2 aircraft like Perugia, select bases are 5/3 but not sure exactly which ones, I am on an older payscale, with over 1500 hours I'm on 80.5 euro an hour, so you get a month with 100 hours, sure you can do the maths, pre tax, and I am self employed so not using their accountants, the captains could be on a Ryanair salery contract so will be different
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Old 17th Sep 2011, 23:59
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I looked at my pay slip this month. I cannot believe how happy I am that I never took the "opportunity" to work for RYR!

You might think that you're the best paid out there. I'll bet my payslip against yours that that ain't the truth.

Good luck to all of you who are fighting and joining REPA, you have my utmost respect. For those who aren't, well, all I can say is you're stupider than I can possibly describe in print!

O'Leary is a smart fella, no matter what you think of him. Anyone who thinks they can win on their own is fooling themselves.

Oh and just to add. I know 15 RYR skippers who are working their notice at the moment. That's out of a total of 16 RYR skippers I can call friends. Make of that what you will... The sandpit is getting rather congested with Irish accents at the moment.
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Old 18th Sep 2011, 08:02
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I have to assume Teddy Robinson works for, or has worked for, Ryanair to be able to assert such things. How's the working roster at McDonalds then Teddy?
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Old 18th Sep 2011, 08:50
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I'm afraid Nick14 is right, the FO pay at Ryanair is pretty poor by industry standards. Probably 48,000e gross before deductions and tax. And you don't get any benefits whatsoever.

Say you fly a good summer month of 90 hours and earn 7000e. After Ryanair, the Accountants and the Irish Taxman take their slices for doing next to nothing, the money transferred to your bank account will be well under 4000e. That's equivalent to paying over 40% tax.

And it goes without saying that you don't do 90 hours every month, winter hours are half that.
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Old 18th Sep 2011, 09:08
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And it goes without saying that you don't do 90 hours every month, winter hours are half that.
and donīt forget you have one month OFF totaly unpaid (it means 0000 € before or after tax, as you wish). And you need to pay for your medical and simulator for OPCs.

This company is only for sucka's
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Old 18th Sep 2011, 10:47
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We work 10 months of the year.

1 month unpaid 'unavailability' and 10 days 'additional unavailability'.

If you don't want the 10 days extra,it doesn't matter - they are allocated anyway,anywhere throughout the year at there behest.

These 10 extra days of unpaid leave are usually divided into 5 days and 5 days.
Yeah - 5 'on' days.

So basically you finish your 5 days of work and then - 4 days off,5 days leave,4 days off ! 5 days leave is actually 13 days off ( or half the month). Your 5 on 4 off pattern stays the same.

As an FO with more the 1500 on type I take home 3500 euro per month (averaged over 12 months ). It looks ok,but thats it only cash.

No package whatsoever - pension,LOL,sims,hotels at sim,id's,car park,food,health care,staff travel,no additional off day money(your rate stays the same - i don't work them) etc etc etc
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