Ryanair exodus, what is the plan?
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Ryanair Pilots ! Join the debate about your future on your website !!
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Thats right, join REPA, the greatest leadership void on earth.
Pointless, gutless, disorganised plantation slaves bitching about how unfair life is. For heaven's sake DO something. This airline advances only on the presumption of continued PILOT goodwill. Remove that, and see how the tyrant jumps.
Blue Flu, sickoffs, call them what you will. Even one day a week. Let's say Wednesdays, when all those charming base captains are in the office. Knock on effects will effectively disrupt the operation for the business end of the week. DO SOMETHING. How many more suicides will it take?
Pointless, gutless, disorganised plantation slaves bitching about how unfair life is. For heaven's sake DO something. This airline advances only on the presumption of continued PILOT goodwill. Remove that, and see how the tyrant jumps.
Blue Flu, sickoffs, call them what you will. Even one day a week. Let's say Wednesdays, when all those charming base captains are in the office. Knock on effects will effectively disrupt the operation for the business end of the week. DO SOMETHING. How many more suicides will it take?
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I believe the likes of Emirates do have a preference towards Ryanair products because they are used to extremely rigid SOP's and use of automation always everywhere.
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I believe the likes of Emirates do have a preference towards Ryanair products because they are used to extremely rigid SOP's and use of automation always everywhere.
I hope Emirates reads this too. I flew with a captain who admitted he was not able to actually fly the plane anymore if push came to shove.
Said he was too used of automation to feel comfortable taking the yoke. Loved VNAV. I admire the fact he was able to admit this. And believe me he was serious.
I also believe there are many more just like him who won't admit it.
Edited to say that it was not meant as a bashing note to d105, even though it reads like it might be...
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From: Enroute to sand.
Jet fuel addict, you have a point! There is a thread running on too much automation somewhere else on pprune! Can we take the debate there! Automation is certainly not soley a Ryanair way of doing things and your point relates to most modern airliners!
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Approach philosophy?
working montpellier the other day and FR was asked if they would like a shortcut into Beziers - they replied that they would like to do the full procedure!
Why - training - hours or company orders.
cloud one octa - base 5000ft vis 40 miles.
working montpellier the other day and FR was asked if they would like a shortcut into Beziers - they replied that they would like to do the full procedure!
Why - training - hours or company orders.
cloud one octa - base 5000ft vis 40 miles.
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Thread drift I know, but similar thing last week at LPL, FR coming in from the west offered 09 but ILS is out, opted for procedure on 27 instead of a straight in visual approach to 09, WX was 8/8 blue sky no wind, could have been any number of reasons I suppose, I just thought it odd to opt for the long way in.
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Strange but in the grand scheme of things there could be a whole load of reasons.
Perhaps just very high on the profile or very SOP minded and not wanting to hold to fully brief a visual approach which had not been previously mentioned.
Or is there a more sinister motive at work here? Deliberately flying in an inefficient manner?
Perhaps just very high on the profile or very SOP minded and not wanting to hold to fully brief a visual approach which had not been previously mentioned.
Or is there a more sinister motive at work here? Deliberately flying in an inefficient manner?
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@bigdaviet
Think yours is likely the correct answer, high on profile and approach not briefed, so more prudent and less exciting to go for the planned option, havent heard of deliberate fuel wasting online as yet, would not be my choice. We are professionals after all, even if we are not treated as such.
Think yours is likely the correct answer, high on profile and approach not briefed, so more prudent and less exciting to go for the planned option, havent heard of deliberate fuel wasting online as yet, would not be my choice. We are professionals after all, even if we are not treated as such.
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From: UK
"Of course.... But an F/O with less than 500hrs is not authorised to do a visual"
solution = "I have control". Simples
solution = "I have control". Simples