Ryanair exodus, what is the plan?
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The cost is an issue to me because I've spent most of the past 4 months on almost permanent standby wondering how Im going to pay the mortgage. With a Scottish Disclosure fee on top of the ID itself it works out to be £50. Even offsetting it against tax its still going to cost you £30 for an ID that isn't going to be accepted anywhere other than Southern Spain.
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Mikehotel,
I think the problem lies in the second sentence of the letter - "contractual obligation". In other words, if you can't operate out of base X, Y or Z when rostered then you'll be in breach of your contract.
Now they could afford to bin a couple of FOs from BRK to encourage the others, but could they bin everybody?
I think the problem lies in the second sentence of the letter - "contractual obligation". In other words, if you can't operate out of base X, Y or Z when rostered then you'll be in breach of your contract.
Now they could afford to bin a couple of FOs from BRK to encourage the others, but could they bin everybody?
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If you read the read on screwdock then it states that if you are moving to be based at one of the selected bases, therefore would that include if you are working the odd week from there? I really don't want to bend down and pull my trousers down to pay for yet another ID!!
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It's the bloody cheek of it that gets to me. What next? It wouldn't cost them a great deal to sort it out if they need to, it's only to cover up for people leaving!!
Take a stand!
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This is just another money maker for them. Imagine around 1500 pilots pay around 30£ each to a company which is owned by Ryanair (not talking about all the cabin crew which are based in Spanish bases and need one of these useless plastic cards as well). It should be clear if they want you to have a company ID than they should give you one and if you cannot operate without one it's more their problem than ours.....
I have already voted with my feet so if they take me off the roster at least I can spend some quality time with my family instead of dragging myself to work for another 3 months....
I have already voted with my feet so if they take me off the roster at least I can spend some quality time with my family instead of dragging myself to work for another 3 months....
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I cannot believe that I'm reading that people are only considering not paying for these I.D's, to say that RYR are taking the proverbial is somewhat of an understatement.
Everytime I read RYR threads on here, I get more and more depressed.
If you lot don't sort yourselves out, then you should hang your heads in shame for being the most spineless and easily manipulated bunch of slaves since the last lot of people that built pyramids...
Seriously, paying for I.D's... WTF? How is that even a point for discussion?
Everytime I read RYR threads on here, I get more and more depressed.
If you lot don't sort yourselves out, then you should hang your heads in shame for being the most spineless and easily manipulated bunch of slaves since the last lot of people that built pyramids...
Seriously, paying for I.D's... WTF? How is that even a point for discussion?
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Why are some of you guys so pushy on the REPA website etc?
great idea, one issue- will management speak with you? no?
Also I believe guys have issue with the fact on sign up to the website you take name/email address etc. Wouldnt take alot for that list to get to manegement.
Also I stand to be corrected on fact BRK contract is broken if your a union member?
great idea, one issue- will management speak with you? no?
Also I believe guys have issue with the fact on sign up to the website you take name/email address etc. Wouldnt take alot for that list to get to manegement.
Also I stand to be corrected on fact BRK contract is broken if your a union member?
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If that's in the contract, then it immediately nullifies it. You cannot be stopped from joining a union in the EU if you wish. No contract can countermand that basic right.
Dont take my word for it though, just ask anyone with more than 10 seconds of legal or HR training.
Are you guys that dumb as to believe that that sort of thing is in the contract?
I really, really hope not.
Dont take my word for it though, just ask anyone with more than 10 seconds of legal or HR training.
Are you guys that dumb as to believe that that sort of thing is in the contract?
I really, really hope not.
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Why are some of you guys so pushy on the REPA website etc?
great idea, one issue- will management speak with you? no?
Also I believe guys have issue with the fact on sign up to the website you take name/email address etc. Wouldnt take alot for that list to get to manegement.
Also I stand to be corrected on fact BRK contract is broken if your a union member?
great idea, one issue- will management speak with you? no?
Also I believe guys have issue with the fact on sign up to the website you take name/email address etc. Wouldnt take alot for that list to get to manegement.
Also I stand to be corrected on fact BRK contract is broken if your a union member?
That says it all about how "dangerous" being a member is....
There is an active and very interesting discussion on the REPA forum that I suggest you guys join.
P.S.: REPA is not a union
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I've got a few friends working in Spanish bases. On of them suggested I make a high resolution scan of his ID card and then just forge one using photoshop.
Not a bad idea and easily done. Problem solved?
Not a bad idea and easily done. Problem solved?
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I have just checked my contract and it doesn't specify anywhere that I have to get several IDs at my own expense, yes 'cause so far I have a few already!
Another very important thing about this is that we ALL did have to go through a security screening when we joined and we have already paid for it!
They already have all the required documentation.
Another very important thing about this is that we ALL did have to go through a security screening when we joined and we have already paid for it!
They already have all the required documentation.
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I agree this whole thing is a scam. I have three ID's already including this new one and only been here just less than 2 years. What a bunch of thieves.
As for joining REPA, I am sure they have good intentions, but at the end of the day, we on BRK signed a contract. I know what I actually signed, and its bollocks. But it says you need to be able to operate from any 'Client' base so then you have to!! Personally I don't think we have any legal come back in refusing to get one?!
I know I signed a terrible contract, so I intent to up sticks, like many others when I am able to. In the mean time I have developed a very square jaw... taking all this **** on the chin. - oh yea and deep pockets.
As for joining REPA, I am sure they have good intentions, but at the end of the day, we on BRK signed a contract. I know what I actually signed, and its bollocks. But it says you need to be able to operate from any 'Client' base so then you have to!! Personally I don't think we have any legal come back in refusing to get one?!
I know I signed a terrible contract, so I intent to up sticks, like many others when I am able to. In the mean time I have developed a very square jaw... taking all this **** on the chin. - oh yea and deep pockets.
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You do realise that contracts can be changed?
It requires agreement, but if enough of you decide to say "get stuffed" then things might happen.
Putting up with this sort of thing is so weak as to almost make me not care about RYR pilots as you obviously don't deserve any sympathy.
Maybe people will think twice about signing atrocious contracts in the future.
"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."
It requires agreement, but if enough of you decide to say "get stuffed" then things might happen.
Putting up with this sort of thing is so weak as to almost make me not care about RYR pilots as you obviously don't deserve any sympathy.
Maybe people will think twice about signing atrocious contracts in the future.
"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."
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Check this recent Boeing Video ! Not that Boeing actually give a S*&(, but its obvious that no body has told them, MOL and his gang of thugs are running out of people to fly their machines
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Little birdie told me;
New 8000 Euro bond for Command bond if you leave in first year. Once given a base, no transfer request allowed for 1st year.
As much as it pisses me off, I'm kinda not surprised they are doing this. Disguised announcement things are getting tight.
Like many, I have the hours for CU, no way am I going if this is the 'rewarded contract' for your hard work and extra responsibility. Interview lined up for a another carrier, and boy am I studying hard for it.
New 8000 Euro bond for Command bond if you leave in first year. Once given a base, no transfer request allowed for 1st year.
As much as it pisses me off, I'm kinda not surprised they are doing this. Disguised announcement things are getting tight.
Like many, I have the hours for CU, no way am I going if this is the 'rewarded contract' for your hard work and extra responsibility. Interview lined up for a another carrier, and boy am I studying hard for it.
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New 8000 Euro bond for Command bond if you leave in first year. Once given a base, no transfer request allowed for 1st year.
Studying hard for my interviews too!!
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I thought it used to be 5000 euros?
In other news, has anyone heard about about the BRK annual leave requests yet? Last time I checked, they are still working on the April 2011 requests as a matter of urgency. Shame the April roster is already out then.
In other news, has anyone heard about about the BRK annual leave requests yet? Last time I checked, they are still working on the April 2011 requests as a matter of urgency. Shame the April roster is already out then.