RYANAIR thoughts
Leo -you are one funny dude-you and your buddy Adolf are correct :the A380 is a horrible looking aeroplane and the 787 will never fly.
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Leo,
There are /have been, times that I may have had some differences of opinion with you, (although I believe we see in the murky waters the self same reality) but please , accept a Gold Star for Hitlers 787.
Truly, you are wasted in your current position . . . Ooh Er
There are /have been, times that I may have had some differences of opinion with you, (although I believe we see in the murky waters the self same reality) but please , accept a Gold Star for Hitlers 787.
Truly, you are wasted in your current position . . . Ooh Er
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Leo,
Does this mean that things have loosened up re recruitment again.
I got a "No assessment thank you" both direct and via BKF but that was in the middle if the `unrest` and the freeze.
Or was because I`m an old sod? `Cos I ticked all the boxes several times over!
Does this mean that things have loosened up re recruitment again.
I got a "No assessment thank you" both direct and via BKF but that was in the middle if the `unrest` and the freeze.
Or was because I`m an old sod? `Cos I ticked all the boxes several times over!
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Self-employed?
There has been a bit of chat here about contract pilots being self employed for tax purposes.
If you are at all involved in this I draw your attention to the thread I started yesterday.
There has been some feedback but I was hoping to hear more from `the horses mouth` as it were.
If you are at all involved in this I draw your attention to the thread I started yesterday.
There has been some feedback but I was hoping to hear more from `the horses mouth` as it were.
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New UK Base
Is this likely? Are there rumours doing the rounds that we will open at LGW?
Just announced :-
Yorkshire evening post
Published Date: 11 August 2009
Low-cost airline Ryanair today announced it is to set up a base at Leeds Bradford International Airport creating hundreds of new jobs.
Ryanair boss Michael O'Leary was at the airport to make the announcement, which the Dublin-based airline said would have a "significant impact" on the Yorkshire region.
Bit of a U turn considering the banner headlines from Ryanair.com on 23rd June, announcing no more expansion in the UK !
BROWN'S £10 TOURIST TAX RESULTS IN UK GROWTH FREEZE
Does MOL say one thing but mean another ? surely not .......
Seems like you got it wrong (again) LEO
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Seems like you got it wrong (again) LEO
I can't see any post where Leo quite clearly states that LGW will be the new base.
Fairly obvious to those of us with any commercial sense that either LBA or MME / NCL would be higher up the pecking order. Chance are that the first base in the frozen North East will be MME as it is geographically better placed to exploit the catchment area being at the southern end of the conurbation in comparison to NCL on the northern side.
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Completely off topic I guess, But thanks Leo, that link is some of the funniest **** i've seen for ages. Passed my night down route just nicely. Guys, don't just stop at the boeing video, check out all of Hitler's others. Especially the "wrong bike" I'm still pissing my pants.....
my tupence worth.......
makes you laugh UK freeze....for at least 2 weeks...what a joke!
day_dreamer no idea what base you re at but the vast majority of FO friends around the ryr network flew around the 700 hours mark last year, only now in July and August is it picking up but ofcourse will die off again in the winter.
Gatwick is an obvious choice more flights going in there plus the chance to have another pop at Lingus..it ll be a base sooner rather than later.
makes you laugh UK freeze....for at least 2 weeks...what a joke!
day_dreamer no idea what base you re at but the vast majority of FO friends around the ryr network flew around the 700 hours mark last year, only now in July and August is it picking up but ofcourse will die off again in the winter.
Gatwick is an obvious choice more flights going in there plus the chance to have another pop at Lingus..it ll be a base sooner rather than later.
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A Customer's Thoughts on RYR
It seems that word is getting around about the "customer service" at RYR. Read it here: The Spectator
Last chance for Krakow.
‘Last chance for Krakow. Krakow only. Sir, I am not interested in Belfast. When I DECIDE to be interested in Belfast I will inform you. Until then wait your turn and rejoin the queue. Step aside Madam, if you will.’ Robert pointed to a woman with two small children. ‘You’re not listening. I am aware of the fact everyone here wants to board. I understand your concerns, but I am currently processing Krakow. Krakow ONLY. Now, step back behind the barrier and wait patiently.’ Poor guy. He must have known he was asking the impossible. Robert was Ryanair’s Messenger of Doom — a role I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. Looking down at his clipboard and wiping the sweat from his brow he barked out another destination I’d never heard of.
‘Listen up. Final call for Toss-off. Toss-off only.’ A rush of demented passengers pushed aside three surgically masked Japanese tourists before bravely squaring up to him.
‘We’ve been queuing for over three hours,’ spat the elected ringleader with undisguised and furious contempt. ‘Our flight to Toulon leaves in under five minutes. We haven’t even checked in. What kind of a joke airline is this?’
Robert had no answer. He just shrugged helplessly and turned his attention back to Krakow. Toulon was beyond his control. Belfast was beyond his control. Actually, if truth be told, pretty much everything was beyond his control at Stansted airport last Saturday afternoon.
Trust me it was a special form of hell.
Personally, I’m staggered Michael O’Leary still bothers to employ pilots to fly his aircraft. He’s successfully managed to eliminate virtually every other form of service — failing only in his attempt to charge for in-flight access to the lavatories — so why he decided to draw the line at pilots is a mystery to me. Ryanair takes no-frills flying to new depths. This is not no frills — this is frayed, fraught and deeply flawed flying.
This is an airline that has the arrogance, audacity and breathtaking inefficiency to see fit to open only 11 check-in ‘bag drops’ to deal with 255 flights on 1 August — traditionally the busiest travel day of the year — to ‘process’ (God forbid Ryanair ever employs the word ‘service’) thousands of passengers. The scene at Stansted made the madness one encounters at Mumbai looked controlled. It was sheer mayhem. Passengers were grid-locked and grim-faced as flight after flight took off without ever being announced. One gentleman gamely shoved through the crowds, jumped up on to an empty desk and made an impassioned speech imploring Ryanair to take control. His pleas fell on deaf ears.
I’m a great advocate and consumer of no-frills, economic travel. I can’t afford not to be. Needs must. I don’t ever expect to be pampered, spoilt or even comfortable when travelling on a bargain airline. I understand the concept behind ‘getting exactly what you pay for’ and don’t have a problem with it. My mantra has always been, it’s not where you start your journey — it’s where you end up on holiday that really counts. Hundreds of passengers last Saturday were not even given that opportunity. The disorganisation, ineptitude and lack of compassion shown by Ryanair was truly shameful.
I did manage to check in, but only just and only by default. Our house guests weren’t so lucky. Never again. I’m checking out.
‘Last chance for Krakow. Krakow only. Sir, I am not interested in Belfast. When I DECIDE to be interested in Belfast I will inform you. Until then wait your turn and rejoin the queue. Step aside Madam, if you will.’ Robert pointed to a woman with two small children. ‘You’re not listening. I am aware of the fact everyone here wants to board. I understand your concerns, but I am currently processing Krakow. Krakow ONLY. Now, step back behind the barrier and wait patiently.’ Poor guy. He must have known he was asking the impossible. Robert was Ryanair’s Messenger of Doom — a role I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. Looking down at his clipboard and wiping the sweat from his brow he barked out another destination I’d never heard of.
‘Listen up. Final call for Toss-off. Toss-off only.’ A rush of demented passengers pushed aside three surgically masked Japanese tourists before bravely squaring up to him.
‘We’ve been queuing for over three hours,’ spat the elected ringleader with undisguised and furious contempt. ‘Our flight to Toulon leaves in under five minutes. We haven’t even checked in. What kind of a joke airline is this?’
Robert had no answer. He just shrugged helplessly and turned his attention back to Krakow. Toulon was beyond his control. Belfast was beyond his control. Actually, if truth be told, pretty much everything was beyond his control at Stansted airport last Saturday afternoon.
Trust me it was a special form of hell.
Personally, I’m staggered Michael O’Leary still bothers to employ pilots to fly his aircraft. He’s successfully managed to eliminate virtually every other form of service — failing only in his attempt to charge for in-flight access to the lavatories — so why he decided to draw the line at pilots is a mystery to me. Ryanair takes no-frills flying to new depths. This is not no frills — this is frayed, fraught and deeply flawed flying.
This is an airline that has the arrogance, audacity and breathtaking inefficiency to see fit to open only 11 check-in ‘bag drops’ to deal with 255 flights on 1 August — traditionally the busiest travel day of the year — to ‘process’ (God forbid Ryanair ever employs the word ‘service’) thousands of passengers. The scene at Stansted made the madness one encounters at Mumbai looked controlled. It was sheer mayhem. Passengers were grid-locked and grim-faced as flight after flight took off without ever being announced. One gentleman gamely shoved through the crowds, jumped up on to an empty desk and made an impassioned speech imploring Ryanair to take control. His pleas fell on deaf ears.
I’m a great advocate and consumer of no-frills, economic travel. I can’t afford not to be. Needs must. I don’t ever expect to be pampered, spoilt or even comfortable when travelling on a bargain airline. I understand the concept behind ‘getting exactly what you pay for’ and don’t have a problem with it. My mantra has always been, it’s not where you start your journey — it’s where you end up on holiday that really counts. Hundreds of passengers last Saturday were not even given that opportunity. The disorganisation, ineptitude and lack of compassion shown by Ryanair was truly shameful.
I did manage to check in, but only just and only by default. Our house guests weren’t so lucky. Never again. I’m checking out.
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Could this be the ruse RYR uses to force everyone to check-in online? OK if you're going away for only a couple of days with hand baggage only. In August for the summer hols you're likely to have more than shorts & a T-shirt. It doesn't matter how expensive he makes the baggage charge, he'll never eliminate the need for a suitcase for some people. However, what he will do is drive customers to the competitors who do not charge rediculous amounts for normal accessories. If you compare just ej & RYR and take into account the baggage allowance + hand bag allowance, the FINAL cost (which to you & me = ticket price) can be cheaper on the 'more' expensive airlines. Throw in the majors for comparison and often they are cheaper than LoCo's at the end of the day, and with more flights at more convenient times and to more convenient places.
If you arrive at the suggested -2.00hrs and cannot checkin on time and miss your flight, who's fault is it and what compensation is there? If RYR cancels flts they have fixed rules, but if they do not given you ample enough chance to even get on the flight surely they could be claimed against. However, proving it might be difficult. For some business travellers, or those with on going flt connections, the cost of missing the flt could be serious.
If you arrive at the suggested -2.00hrs and cannot checkin on time and miss your flight, who's fault is it and what compensation is there? If RYR cancels flts they have fixed rules, but if they do not given you ample enough chance to even get on the flight surely they could be claimed against. However, proving it might be difficult. For some business travellers, or those with on going flt connections, the cost of missing the flt could be serious.
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Could this be the ruse RYR uses to force everyone to check-in online?
Fact is that when you have finally navigated your way past all the nearly disguised charges and then get the £10 per person (not per transaction) card charge you are pretty cheesed off. I reckon that if there was a box at the bottom with a tick option entitled "pisstake charge £5, tick here to complete transaction or go back to square one" most people would tick the bloody box just to be shot of the whole thing!
And guess what? MOL knows it!!!
This is how he was able to predict all those years ago that there would be a point in the foreseeable future when he would offer the `seat` for free.
However, on the subject of taking the pxxs, how can the majors justify the extraordinary hike in fares from business to first? Even I cant drink that much `poo / fine wine / armagnac, on one flight! (I know `cos I`ve tried!!)
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Traditionally First and Business have been the revenue generators for carriers, however, with the retraction in the economy firt and business yields are down and it's y class that has bums on seats.
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From an economic standpoint, they seem to be doing an ok job of it..
it's a commercial environment. that is, customers have the choice to fly FR, they are not forced by any government dictum, nor is MOL standing over anyone, whip in hand, as they surf the internet looking for lift between x and y.
They are free to choose FR, EZ, BA, KLM, Air France, Big Bertha's Air Taxi and Flying school, whoever.
it's a commercial environment. that is, customers have the choice to fly FR, they are not forced by any government dictum, nor is MOL standing over anyone, whip in hand, as they surf the internet looking for lift between x and y.
They are free to choose FR, EZ, BA, KLM, Air France, Big Bertha's Air Taxi and Flying school, whoever.
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McBruce is right, most guys at my base(myself included) are doing 50-60 hours pr month. And we`re talking summmer months here, the coming winter season is gonna be cold og very, very dark....
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As Bruce Wayne rightly pointed out - no one is making the 67 odd million passengers fly with Ryanair. They have so much other choice if they so desire. One thing about our species - we love to hate. Nothing makes us feel better about ourselves than a good whine about issues we know nothing about. this can be regularly advertised on pprune.
Regarding the atrocious scenes at STN, i agree it was a terrible situation. However I was lead to believe that RYR had no groundstaff - swissport look after all things blue+yellow at STN so surely they were the ones not to open the bag drop-off points?? Unless at STN they have their own ryanair bag drop off points, run by ryanair employees - i fail to see how this is indeed ryanairs fault?
Also yes I believe it depends on the base as to your flying hours per year.
Regarding the atrocious scenes at STN, i agree it was a terrible situation. However I was lead to believe that RYR had no groundstaff - swissport look after all things blue+yellow at STN so surely they were the ones not to open the bag drop-off points?? Unless at STN they have their own ryanair bag drop off points, run by ryanair employees - i fail to see how this is indeed ryanairs fault?
Also yes I believe it depends on the base as to your flying hours per year.