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Well, as of 15 April......
Fresh"ish" from the rock.........
There is currently no plan to rehire ANY of the ex-pat crewmembers who were "Terminated " in the January Putsch.
Crew Planning has been rotating some of those who were sent home on ULV but no recall is planned.
Any rehiring/recall will be only for those with 744 rating because AAI is doing all they can to replace the Classics with the 744.
Looks like a large number of FIA "dues paying crewmembers" ... the Icelandic Flight Engineers.....have been wasting their time. .... Unless, of course, they wish to finish their pilot's licenses or become Cabin Attendants.
As they say... "Oh Dear, this will only end in tears."
Fresh"ish" from the rock.........
There is currently no plan to rehire ANY of the ex-pat crewmembers who were "Terminated " in the January Putsch.
Crew Planning has been rotating some of those who were sent home on ULV but no recall is planned.
Any rehiring/recall will be only for those with 744 rating because AAI is doing all they can to replace the Classics with the 744.
Looks like a large number of FIA "dues paying crewmembers" ... the Icelandic Flight Engineers.....have been wasting their time. .... Unless, of course, they wish to finish their pilot's licenses or become Cabin Attendants.
As they say... "Oh Dear, this will only end in tears."
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Yes I heard this the other week speaking to a friend in K.L. who was at a gathering there where this was mentioned to my friend.
It seems that the contract will not be renewed, as AAI does not it seems have made any effort to protect its position or has any idea how to do business in Asia except of the same stupid codhead mentality of shooting the messengers.
Until a couple of years ago Oli Smith before his death was the station manager, who knew exactly how to look after the goose that was laying the golden eggs and ability on how to deal with Asians.
The new station manager is as skilled as the one in JED in being able to line their own pockets with the spoils with great skill, greed and corruption...after all of the same ilk.
Its a pity, they just don't get it, they just rape and corrupt everything they touch and then its to late, I also hear there is a couple or so classics parked in JB waiting to pounce on an opportunity.
Same outfit that got some Hajj work this last one passed as somehow AAI screwed that up also, figures so its down to SV, yep I believe it would be hanging by a thin thread what else.
It seems that the contract will not be renewed, as AAI does not it seems have made any effort to protect its position or has any idea how to do business in Asia except of the same stupid codhead mentality of shooting the messengers.
Until a couple of years ago Oli Smith before his death was the station manager, who knew exactly how to look after the goose that was laying the golden eggs and ability on how to deal with Asians.
The new station manager is as skilled as the one in JED in being able to line their own pockets with the spoils with great skill, greed and corruption...after all of the same ilk.
Its a pity, they just don't get it, they just rape and corrupt everything they touch and then its to late, I also hear there is a couple or so classics parked in JB waiting to pounce on an opportunity.
Same outfit that got some Hajj work this last one passed as somehow AAI screwed that up also, figures so its down to SV, yep I believe it would be hanging by a thin thread what else.
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Sorry if this is old news...it's new to me...
Is it true the Icelandics are now getting $255 perdiem? That's a damned fine payrise at the expense of all the ex-pat crews they let go !
That's more per day than I was making as an F/O in year 4!!!!!!!!!!!!! You guys oughta be ashamed.....................
Is it true the Icelandics are now getting $255 perdiem? That's a damned fine payrise at the expense of all the ex-pat crews they let go !
That's more per day than I was making as an F/O in year 4!!!!!!!!!!!!! You guys oughta be ashamed.....................
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Haha bunch of w*****s
Ive been sitting here and laughing at your comments.
First of all there is not one single truth in any of your comments on this forum.
It is obvious that you have to much time off. Your imagination is running your lifes. I happen to be a Icelander and you call us all kind of names.
If we are so bad and treat you badly. Turn in your validations if you dont have a proper licence and work in your own country. There are people lined up to take over your positions. I dont know any european country who is so kind to you non europeans and give you validations year after year. Why are U still here? Its because nobody else wants you.
Get a life.
First of all there is not one single truth in any of your comments on this forum.
It is obvious that you have to much time off. Your imagination is running your lifes. I happen to be a Icelander and you call us all kind of names.
If we are so bad and treat you badly. Turn in your validations if you dont have a proper licence and work in your own country. There are people lined up to take over your positions. I dont know any european country who is so kind to you non europeans and give you validations year after year. Why are U still here? Its because nobody else wants you.
Get a life.
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Oh, PLEASE excuse me Nightcargo, my last post was posed as a question, or don't you understand European and American punctuation? This lttle fella (?) at the end of a sentence denotes an interrogative (that's asking a question, fool.)
FYI, "this" particular non-Icelander has NEVER used a vallidation from the ICAA.... never needed to, I have a real license, as well as the JAR. You seem to think that all non-CODs are from the US or Canada. Do you understand the term Wan_ ker?
A lot of very professional pilots and F/Es were released in January, Guys who, even you will have to admit (if you're honest) YOU have learned MUCH from, so don't take a haughty tone. Good people are on the street because of your UNION. They have a life, it's just a bit harder to pay for essentials now. Don't expect a large positive reaction to recalls when the ICAA realizes you cant run the business without ex-pats.
Perhaps, Helgi & Hannes should change the name of the company to FIAir Atlanta? Oops, there it (?) is again, certainly would not wish to confuse you as well.
FYI, "this" particular non-Icelander has NEVER used a vallidation from the ICAA.... never needed to, I have a real license, as well as the JAR. You seem to think that all non-CODs are from the US or Canada. Do you understand the term Wan_ ker?
A lot of very professional pilots and F/Es were released in January, Guys who, even you will have to admit (if you're honest) YOU have learned MUCH from, so don't take a haughty tone. Good people are on the street because of your UNION. They have a life, it's just a bit harder to pay for essentials now. Don't expect a large positive reaction to recalls when the ICAA realizes you cant run the business without ex-pats.
Perhaps, Helgi & Hannes should change the name of the company to FIAir Atlanta? Oops, there it (?) is again, certainly would not wish to confuse you as well.
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Paladini you need a life.
There is a treatment for this.
Take a vacation. It is a good start.
Also if you are not happy go somewhere else.
If you are one of those fired or failed the sim. Get a life.
Thats what normal people do.
Take a vacation. It is a good start.
Also if you are not happy go somewhere else.
If you are one of those fired or failed the sim. Get a life.
Thats what normal people do.
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Night Cargo
I have just hooked a piece of cod!
Validations. Well it just proves the Icelandic CAA are in the pocket of AAI. The validation system has been abused for years by these outfits, with continued employment of individuals who are incapable of getting the licence or too damned lazy.
Failed the simulator? Don'T you mean crashed the sim, like a local "Captain" managed to do twice I am reliability informed, in one session? (Question) Let me repeat. He did not FAIL the sim, he simply CRASHED it, twice! That said, AAI can be very thankful they operate Boeing A/C for e.g., as anything else less forgiving, would have resulted in at least one bad crash.
"If it ain't Boeing, then I'm not going"
I have just hooked a piece of cod!
Validations. Well it just proves the Icelandic CAA are in the pocket of AAI. The validation system has been abused for years by these outfits, with continued employment of individuals who are incapable of getting the licence or too damned lazy.
Failed the simulator? Don'T you mean crashed the sim, like a local "Captain" managed to do twice I am reliability informed, in one session? (Question) Let me repeat. He did not FAIL the sim, he simply CRASHED it, twice! That said, AAI can be very thankful they operate Boeing A/C for e.g., as anything else less forgiving, would have resulted in at least one bad crash.
"If it ain't Boeing, then I'm not going"
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Give this outfit a mail : www.alwafeeair.com. Itīs a start-up but contracts have already been signed and aircraft shoud arrive in time for the forthcomming HAJJ and from what I hear they will be the final nail in the AAI coffin and might even help them fianacing brand new fishing boats. Life away from AAI is fantastic.
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try emailing them at [email protected] or try Alwafeer Air Homepage or try one of the three or more threads talking about Al Wafeer
good luck in getting an answer
good luck in getting an answer
Try this link Alwafeer Air Homepage
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Mutt, I think Znote was referring to the impending loss of non-SV Hadj contracts flown by AAI. AAI is trying to switch to an all -400 fleet, with exception of the cargo ops.
Last year, Garuda refused to accept TF-ARS, a -300, due to the fact the cabin fixtures are unsuitable for transport of humans. So AAI had NO aircraft for the Indonesian Hadj. They operated a few aircraft for SV into Jakarta but nothing for Garuda. As far as I know, that aircraft is still mouldering away in Merana, and is unlikely to be accepted anywhere except Africa.
Al Wafeer Air will probably not be a "nail-in-the coffin" so to speak, but unless AAI sharpens up their act, they will find it difficult to operate from anywhere except Saudi Arabia and Nigeria. Garuda drew the line on QUALITY ... AAI is still ignoring there is a problem.
Last year, Garuda refused to accept TF-ARS, a -300, due to the fact the cabin fixtures are unsuitable for transport of humans. So AAI had NO aircraft for the Indonesian Hadj. They operated a few aircraft for SV into Jakarta but nothing for Garuda. As far as I know, that aircraft is still mouldering away in Merana, and is unlikely to be accepted anywhere except Africa.
Al Wafeer Air will probably not be a "nail-in-the coffin" so to speak, but unless AAI sharpens up their act, they will find it difficult to operate from anywhere except Saudi Arabia and Nigeria. Garuda drew the line on QUALITY ... AAI is still ignoring there is a problem.
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You will find that ARS ended up being toasted in DAC a few years back so it would not have been available for last hajj season, unless one wanted to fly on a wing and a half and 3 engines.