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Dear Atlanta747
I would suggest that you read the associated post where comments where made again carefully. Perhaps you will find that a few notes about spending too long in the JED sun apply to crew too, certainly applied to me.
Most ops where very nice to work with, KUL and the original lot in DXB. Unfortunately DXB changed when certain TCAS showed up.
However few in OPS that where in JED during my tenure there changed with their percieved growing power over crews, you really have none, you do realise that don't you.
Comments like " I will have you travel on a train and then plane and then on a car to operare a flight with minimum rest" when one is on an off day. Well it is how you guys put things. It was the could you do us a favour and when you did your favour was never returned and next week you where in the s.hits for refusing to do a flight when you had not had sufficient rest. My beef really was with Blandon from the rock and his cohorts as well as the way with some of the OPS ended up kissing the station managers hide so badly that it really made me sick.
Airport ops guys where all ok as far as I was concerned, felt sorry for them for sitting at the office there all day and covering flights with less than minim crew. Dimitri certainly was good fun. Abbas and others great to work with, splendid job with limited resources. No probs there nor with the loadmasters. I heard Rose left. What a pity, great loadmaster and worked all hours of day never a word of complaint.
I would suggest that you read the associated post where comments where made again carefully. Perhaps you will find that a few notes about spending too long in the JED sun apply to crew too, certainly applied to me.
Most ops where very nice to work with, KUL and the original lot in DXB. Unfortunately DXB changed when certain TCAS showed up.
However few in OPS that where in JED during my tenure there changed with their percieved growing power over crews, you really have none, you do realise that don't you.
Comments like " I will have you travel on a train and then plane and then on a car to operare a flight with minimum rest" when one is on an off day. Well it is how you guys put things. It was the could you do us a favour and when you did your favour was never returned and next week you where in the s.hits for refusing to do a flight when you had not had sufficient rest. My beef really was with Blandon from the rock and his cohorts as well as the way with some of the OPS ended up kissing the station managers hide so badly that it really made me sick.
Airport ops guys where all ok as far as I was concerned, felt sorry for them for sitting at the office there all day and covering flights with less than minim crew. Dimitri certainly was good fun. Abbas and others great to work with, splendid job with limited resources. No probs there nor with the loadmasters. I heard Rose left. What a pity, great loadmaster and worked all hours of day never a word of complaint.
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Dear Atlanta-Driver and 18-Wheeler,
I would like to appologise for my blast at all of you, it just appears that people are quick to shoot us down when in hind sight we are only the courier pigeons for you guys from the powers that be.
Again please accept my appologies for my out burst and i wish you all happy flying...
Best regards,
atlanta747
I would like to appologise for my blast at all of you, it just appears that people are quick to shoot us down when in hind sight we are only the courier pigeons for you guys from the powers that be.
Again please accept my appologies for my out burst and i wish you all happy flying...
Best regards,
atlanta747
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TF-ARS was up for sale for $3M USD, they probably got $8M when a/c distroyed in DAC. I wouldn't call that a loss. They paid $11M for freighter destroyed in SHY it was insured for $18M. AAI and AVELON have announced that they have jointly ordered $400M worth of a/c, I would say they are doing pretty good
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What makes you sad, the way AAI has been screwing their expat crews for several years, or maybe the way AAI pocketed the crew per-diem they received from IBERIA for 4 years, or maybe the way they have cancelled all expat base contracts in Kuala Lumpur and put junior Icelandics in their place, or maybe it's the new contracts that will come out reducing crew pay and per-diem by 10%. Or maybe it's the news posted on AAI website that they along with parent company AVELON GROUP have ordered $400M USD worth of aircraft. OH I know why you are sad, it's because all the great guys who made this company all their millions have been let go and replaced by junior guys, that must be it. You obviously have not worked for AAI to make such a stupid statement as you did by saying you are sad.
What makes you sad, the way AAI has been screwing their expat crews for several years, or maybe the way AAI pocketed the crew per-diem they received from IBERIA for 4 years, or maybe the way they have cancelled all expat base contracts in Kuala Lumpur and put junior Icelandics in their place, or maybe it's the new contracts that will come out reducing crew pay and per-diem by 10%. Or maybe it's the news posted on AAI website that they along with parent company AVELON GROUP have ordered $400M USD worth of aircraft. OH I know why you are sad, it's because all the great guys who made this company all their millions have been let go and replaced by junior guys, that must be it. You obviously have not worked for AAI to make such a stupid statement as you did by saying you are sad.
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I have recently sought legal representation and will very soon be posting results with contact info on who to contact for successful action. As it turns out, it is against the law, and I mean International law to lay off people without using seniority. If you downsize you must adhere to the law, or you have a case as I did for wrongful dismissal. Something AAI has ignored, everybody including the legal firms know who is pulling the strings within Direct and Aerborne, it's blaitant
I have recently sought legal representation and will very soon be posting results with contact info on who to contact for successful action. As it turns out, it is against the law, and I mean International law to lay off people without using seniority. If you downsize you must adhere to the law, or you have a case as I did for wrongful dismissal. Something AAI has ignored, everybody including the legal firms know who is pulling the strings within Direct and Aerborne, it's blaitant
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I would recommend you get a second opinion on this
before commencing litigation.
I reckon you're on a hiding to nothing and it may cost you a heap of money!
Secondly, AAI are a good mob to work for if you :
1. Don't get pushed around.
2. Don't take life too seriously
As it turns out, it is against the law, and I mean International law to lay off people without using seniority. If you downsize you must adhere to the law, or you have a case as I did for wrongful dismissal.
I reckon you're on a hiding to nothing and it may cost you a heap of money!
Secondly, AAI are a good mob to work for if you :
1. Don't get pushed around.
2. Don't take life too seriously
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As it turns out, it is against the law, and I mean International law to lay off people without using seniority.
Not a problem, atlanta747 - I figured you had me confused with someone else when you said, "i thought whilst you were in JED earlier this year that you were a true gentlemen."
I knew immediately that wasn't me, for both reasons.
I knew immediately that wasn't me, for both reasons.
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Now now 18wheeler. I thought I recognized myself there but the being a gent and all that would also be much misplaced with me. Good to hear that you are happy with the San Antonio Sewerpipe 
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18-Wheeler,
Thanks for the understanding, for some reason i forgot we had moved on to 2009.... It must be the JED Sun!!! haha.
Does anyone know where this $400 million aircraft has appeared from or where it is published??
Thanks for the understanding, for some reason i forgot we had moved on to 2009.... It must be the JED Sun!!! haha.
Does anyone know where this $400 million aircraft has appeared from or where it is published??
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Hi Guys,
Am home on ULV and this is all very depressing stuff. Miss having beers with all of you on night stops. I really hope things get moving soon as I know all of you have families to take care of and bills to pay. 18 Wheeler how's the car racing going these days
Well chaps I think I am heading to Bangsar to have a beer or 10. Cheers and I hope everything works out for all of us.
Cheers,
Pete.
Am home on ULV and this is all very depressing stuff. Miss having beers with all of you on night stops. I really hope things get moving soon as I know all of you have families to take care of and bills to pay. 18 Wheeler how's the car racing going these days
Well chaps I think I am heading to Bangsar to have a beer or 10. Cheers and I hope everything works out for all of us.
Cheers,
Pete.
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18 Wheeler how's the car recing going these days
How ya going matey?
The car stuff is going okay but I can't afford to do anything with them anymore, GA in Aus doesn't pay enough so they're sitting around collecting dust. Say gidday to Melvin if you see him.
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Hi 18 Wheeler and Lexxie 747,
Great to hear from both of you. Back to the old pencil mate !! Now that's a slippery turboprop and I remember you had a lot of time in that machine previously. I really hope you are having fun and enjoying life back home in Oz. Do keep in touch as one day in the not too distant future we will no doubt be in the same bar sucking on a cold stubbie. My shout.
Alex my buddy you finally found my door you devil you. Hope all is well and that you are keeping well. If I get to AMS will give you a shout and we can check out a few breweries. You guys take care and remember that good things happen to good people. At first it may look bleak and tough but after a while the cards fall into place and we will all look back and wonder what all the fuss was about. And you guys are the best.
Keep in touch and happy landings,
Pete.
Great to hear from both of you. Back to the old pencil mate !! Now that's a slippery turboprop and I remember you had a lot of time in that machine previously. I really hope you are having fun and enjoying life back home in Oz. Do keep in touch as one day in the not too distant future we will no doubt be in the same bar sucking on a cold stubbie. My shout.
Alex my buddy you finally found my door you devil you. Hope all is well and that you are keeping well. If I get to AMS will give you a shout and we can check out a few breweries. You guys take care and remember that good things happen to good people. At first it may look bleak and tough but after a while the cards fall into place and we will all look back and wonder what all the fuss was about. And you guys are the best.
Keep in touch and happy landings,
Pete.
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podunk said
FIA (aka FFF) still NOT happy with results .... but are much safer from the Icelandic tax man, now that their immediate nuclear families have all departed to the out-bases. I guess you can't tax someone you can't get back into the country to put in jail.
Well done, Boge! a veritable coup ! (Is Helgi even talking to you these days?)
Seeing and hearing this quite alot now these days. Do you guys really think that the "Codheads" arenīt paying tax since after they moved out on fixed base?
FIA (aka FFF) still NOT happy with results .... but are much safer from the Icelandic tax man, now that their immediate nuclear families have all departed to the out-bases. I guess you can't tax someone you can't get back into the country to put in jail.
Well done, Boge! a veritable coup ! (Is Helgi even talking to you these days?)Seeing and hearing this quite alot now these days. Do you guys really think that the "Codheads" arenīt paying tax since after they moved out on fixed base?