Any advice if you're laid off
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Any advice if you're laid off
Since none of us can be assured of our jobs, it gets me thinking to what to do if lay-offs happen in my company. The pilot job market has been through this before (I haven't). Any wise advice form those who have had the unfortunate experience of having to go back searching the limited job market or are currently going through the financial gloom (Zoom, XL etc)?
Immediate actions?
Financial security (how to pay the mortgage, or what help is available)
etc etc
I'll start with polishing your CV. Any more ideas/advice.........?
Immediate actions?
Financial security (how to pay the mortgage, or what help is available)
etc etc
I'll start with polishing your CV. Any more ideas/advice.........?
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Hi ,
it also happened to me some years ago.
Was low hour fo with only little chances on the market.
Maybe it sounds too simple,but what helped me a lot was to do a lot of sport (reduces the stress) and to study AC tech details ( to be fit for any interviev coming up).
Parallel I checked all the job offers from the agencies.
(But at the end I was hired direct by an airline.had been lucky.)
All the best!!!
it also happened to me some years ago.
Was low hour fo with only little chances on the market.
Maybe it sounds too simple,but what helped me a lot was to do a lot of sport (reduces the stress) and to study AC tech details ( to be fit for any interviev coming up).
Parallel I checked all the job offers from the agencies.
(But at the end I was hired direct by an airline.had been lucky.)
All the best!!!
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Stop spending, save. Ditch as much debt as possible. If you feel under threat, AND your thoughts are rational, do this now. Keep a good lookout for a suitable job, don't confine yourself to flying. Prepare your CV now, while your still employed and in good spirits.
If it does happen, keep yourself occupied and keep to some form of routine. Divide your day up into job search, gardening, sport (keeps body and mind fit). and at least one activity that gets you out of the house to meet people (not the pub, sorry). Don't be afraid to tell friends, you do not have a disease, you just need a job. They may help.
Just my penny worth, I have been through it more than once.
If it does happen, keep yourself occupied and keep to some form of routine. Divide your day up into job search, gardening, sport (keeps body and mind fit). and at least one activity that gets you out of the house to meet people (not the pub, sorry). Don't be afraid to tell friends, you do not have a disease, you just need a job. They may help.
Just my penny worth, I have been through it more than once.
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I joined Zoom from another company just after they started flying in 2007, after taking the view that as they were new to the UK I had to have contingency plan.
That plan consisted of saving my pennies and putting together a plan of action should things go south..so to speak.
FWIW, when I joined I'd just bought a house, an addition to the H1 household was on the way, and yet, being frugal meant that when things did go pop, I had 7 months financial grace in which to get further employment.
Along the way my plan "B" developed, I made contacts at various airlines, contract agencies, and corporate operators so that should the worst happen..I'd be ahead of the game.
Now 3 weeks after losing my job at Zoom, I've got a nice little number already signed sealed and delivered.
My biggest problem is now trying to get a P45 out of the company receivers!
This industry is cyclical and will be thus, for as long as I'm in it. Zoom was the 3rd time I've lost my job thanks to a company falling over, and yet, I'm confident that I'll never be out of work for any extended period as I intend to have a plan.
I'd advise everyone to have a plan "b" and "c" right now.
That plan consisted of saving my pennies and putting together a plan of action should things go south..so to speak.
FWIW, when I joined I'd just bought a house, an addition to the H1 household was on the way, and yet, being frugal meant that when things did go pop, I had 7 months financial grace in which to get further employment.
Along the way my plan "B" developed, I made contacts at various airlines, contract agencies, and corporate operators so that should the worst happen..I'd be ahead of the game.
Now 3 weeks after losing my job at Zoom, I've got a nice little number already signed sealed and delivered.
My biggest problem is now trying to get a P45 out of the company receivers!
This industry is cyclical and will be thus, for as long as I'm in it. Zoom was the 3rd time I've lost my job thanks to a company falling over, and yet, I'm confident that I'll never be out of work for any extended period as I intend to have a plan.
I'd advise everyone to have a plan "b" and "c" right now.
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Tell everyone; your family, your bank, your building society, your kids.
Go to the job centre and sign on, TODAY, NOW, NOT TOMORROW.
Claim for everything you can think of...they will help you find out what you are entitled to. council tax etc.
Stop spending.............on everything.
Prioritise your outgoings.
Pay what you can to those that MUST be paid.
Try to re-arrange your mortgage payments.
Pay your power/water etc. bills monthly or even weekly.
Shop weekly only for what you really need, not what you want.
Make lists. Stick to them.
After you've given up sending CVs to every airline in the world, get out and keep busy.
Lock the car in the garage or sell it if you can. Walk everywhere, if you can.
If you can find work, ANY work, take it. Drive a cab or a bus, gardening, supermarket work...anything. Don't be too proud to take money from anyone.
If you see someone worse off than you, give them a hand.
Keep smiling and if your partner sticks with you, all will be well...eventually.
Go to the job centre and sign on, TODAY, NOW, NOT TOMORROW.
Claim for everything you can think of...they will help you find out what you are entitled to. council tax etc.
Stop spending.............on everything.
Prioritise your outgoings.
Pay what you can to those that MUST be paid.
Try to re-arrange your mortgage payments.
Pay your power/water etc. bills monthly or even weekly.
Shop weekly only for what you really need, not what you want.
Make lists. Stick to them.
After you've given up sending CVs to every airline in the world, get out and keep busy.
Lock the car in the garage or sell it if you can. Walk everywhere, if you can.
If you can find work, ANY work, take it. Drive a cab or a bus, gardening, supermarket work...anything. Don't be too proud to take money from anyone.
If you see someone worse off than you, give them a hand.
Keep smiling and if your partner sticks with you, all will be well...eventually.
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Take any job to keep cashflow, visit jobcentre plus online and scan local papers for anything, will provide more income than the dole anyway as DSS dont pay mortgage interest for a set period, be prepared to work/fly any location!
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Try to have a house (with a clear titleor no costs) to live in
save to have a buffer quarters expense in all fields and costs for One recurrency/ reissue of licence.
Get the missus to take a job (if at home)
Try to study while employed to be better qualified in other fields as well
Maybe try to get an open rating..
When Laid off/furloughed
1. Ask you Ex employer for a Reference/ testimonials.
2. Ask for what likely dues will be paid and by when?
3. Ask to be given preferences over direct joiners should the trend reverse
4. Ask whether they could arrange your recurrent training , (incase the company owns the sim) or get you prefrential pricing for recurrent training on your airline type.
5.Tell every one It helps you cope with the loss plus puts your needs to people who might be able to help you go through. esp any body in upper levels of management.
6,Try your hand at teaching Flying to anyone wanting to learn. will enable you to keep skills up to mark and Licences current. ( I would do this even for free.. just ask the guy to keep my licence current) This is where the open rating helps.
7.Shape up your resume to One Page and email to all airlines and agencies in the world., especially the bush operators. More Demanding than ILS to ILS flights but good money as well.
8.Keep in touch with your ex company lot even if the people change vis if Ryan laid you off, keep in regular touch with HR even if the guy who worked when you were there has been replaced.
9. Stay out of trouble and be legal at all times. Difficult it may seem but keep cheer with the things which could have been worse but are not.
And if it is the pits,
Then things can only improve...
save to have a buffer quarters expense in all fields and costs for One recurrency/ reissue of licence.
Get the missus to take a job (if at home)
Try to study while employed to be better qualified in other fields as well
Maybe try to get an open rating..
When Laid off/furloughed
1. Ask you Ex employer for a Reference/ testimonials.
2. Ask for what likely dues will be paid and by when?
3. Ask to be given preferences over direct joiners should the trend reverse
4. Ask whether they could arrange your recurrent training , (incase the company owns the sim) or get you prefrential pricing for recurrent training on your airline type.
5.Tell every one It helps you cope with the loss plus puts your needs to people who might be able to help you go through. esp any body in upper levels of management.
6,Try your hand at teaching Flying to anyone wanting to learn. will enable you to keep skills up to mark and Licences current. ( I would do this even for free.. just ask the guy to keep my licence current) This is where the open rating helps.
7.Shape up your resume to One Page and email to all airlines and agencies in the world., especially the bush operators. More Demanding than ILS to ILS flights but good money as well.
8.Keep in touch with your ex company lot even if the people change vis if Ryan laid you off, keep in regular touch with HR even if the guy who worked when you were there has been replaced.
9. Stay out of trouble and be legal at all times. Difficult it may seem but keep cheer with the things which could have been worse but are not.
And if it is the pits,
Then things can only improve...
