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Old 31st March 2008 | 12:39
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Attached is further evidence of a general slowdown in their operations. Are they asking for volunteers for this or will it just appear on your roster and you will be expected to up ship.

http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/about...ease&sec=LEASE
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Old 31st March 2008 | 12:57
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That information regarding wet leasing has been there well before all the latest round of hysteria.
Its incredible to think what started as speculation on the REPA site of a pay cut has led to all this.
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Old 31st March 2008 | 15:19
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very worrying.hysteria and speculation,what is even more incredible is that the pilots in ryanair cannot see the need for independent,free of interference democratic representation.
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Old 8th April 2008 | 10:10
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purely for decoration.

Ryanair does not wet lease.

I tried to get an aircraft of theirs for a flight and the lady on the phone said they did not charter aircraft. On the other had she did not know what a wet lease was and if I wanted help with anything else.

Fax does not work and no reply on email...
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Old 8th April 2008 | 16:58
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Poor wee Irish lassy, you asked her for a wet lease.
She probably thought you were some kind of perv. . . . .
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Old 22nd June 2008 | 12:47
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ryanair anti pilot company

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4188626.ece

interesting story about how ryanair treats its pilots.before the lcc apologists start with their usual bs,this is the norm and not the exception.
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Old 22nd June 2008 | 13:56
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Just add this to the list of why RYR is such a shameful, vile and unfriendly "organisation" it really is.

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Old 22nd June 2008 | 14:29
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When an airline sacks an employee, that employee must surrender his security passes. I would think that, by backdating a P45 and allowing the pilot to continue to operate, FR have committed an offense here.
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Old 22nd June 2008 | 14:35
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Every time I read http://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/ryan.htm it never ceased to amaze me why people fly with this airline.

It seems the workforce aren't treated any better either.

I saw that O'Leary interview - quite astonishing.
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Old 22nd June 2008 | 15:02
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Last week O’Leary found himself on front pages after his comments at a press conference in Germany. He said Ryanair’s new transatlantic service would offer “beds and blowjobs” to those paying €5,000.
What a class act, with that kind of thinking it is no wonder the management pi$$es on the pilots!.

Thank goodness for corporate flying and the BBJ or else I might have gone down the airline path and been at the mercy of pi!!ocks like O'leary.
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Old 22nd June 2008 | 15:12
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http://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/ryan.htm


That ^^^ site makes interesting reading. I particularly liked the post about the Italian Ryanair employee on the 'helpline' saying (in Italian) "I wonder how long the English will hang on?" only to cut the caller off when he/she replied in Italian.

How any company that consistently shows such utter contempt for its customers and employees survives is beyond me. Needless to say I would never pay to travel with them.
 
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Old 22nd June 2008 | 15:12
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Perhaps even more surprising is the fact that the airline 'management' are actually pleased that the interview has received so much publicity....

This is clear from their website's news page.
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Old 22nd June 2008 | 16:53
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People cant get june, july , august, and there grounding aircraft over the winter! are you all that stupid to think thats anything other than a smart move by FR!??!!

People fly more in summer (FACT!) so more aircraft needed and more crew! people fly less in Winter (FACT) so less aircraft needed less crew needed!

so my thoughts are, they can afford for so many aircraft from certian bases to sit on the ground in the quite period over winter, dublin and stansted I belive, people will fly less over those months and maybe even get a whole month off, then be back to max flying duties over summer,

bank some cash dont spend it all on strippers, its a good wage, enjoy the time off, after all what other job gives you 28 days hoilday plus a month plus 4days off after a 5day week, I think you will find none!

other option is they have less planes in total and run them 24/7 all year with less routes and less jobs and more pilots in the dole que! if you dont want to fly for them then fine there are other people to fly for, but with 200h TT I dont think you will get anywhere with such good T&C's!

if you are alredy with an airline and got thousends of jet hours,, then yea, save your 25k and carry on the normal ladder to bigger and better worlds, for me to pay my way in and get experiance on a superb ship and earn back very decent money was a good and smart move,, I have 35years now to do what I like in the aviation world.
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Old 22nd June 2008 | 17:10
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You think Ryanair are nasty to their pilots??

Have a look http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...ht=grotehaasje
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Old 23rd June 2008 | 08:51
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my new training position!!!!!

they need to be instructed on what a proper BJ is!!!!

and the best way to make sure there is no residue left in the seats!!!!
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Old 23rd June 2008 | 09:09
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CIPO - Just because you're a nobody who never made it as a pilot dont take it out on everyone else...Wake up and smell the coffee...
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Old 23rd June 2008 | 10:12
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2600hrs jet time buddy. You can continue to lick the milk from your saucer now............ Meeoooow.......
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Old 23rd June 2008 | 17:10
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As someone who has a shiny new fATPL, just over 300 hrs TT and is seriously considering going down the FR pay-to-fly route, I would honestly appreciate some 'how it is' stories from serving FR pilots, especially FOs. Is it really as bad working for the company as this thread and many more would suggest? What's there to like about the company? Some good news stories would make some refreshing reading.....

HW
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Old 23rd June 2008 | 17:29
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the good news is that like hundreds to date and most working there,you can always leave.maybe not if you are up to your eyeballs in debt.
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Old 23rd June 2008 | 18:36
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CIPO - Good to hear mate, but Im sorry to tell you that Microsoft Flight Simulator 2007 does'nt count .
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