Ryan air F/O Pay, can a actual Ryanair pilot please answer
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Facts and figures
Here are some facts and figures for Virginpilot and anyone else who's interested:
I'm an FO on a Brookfield contract and I'm based in the UK at one base - ie I'm not a floating base pilot going from one base to another each week.
I'm flying around 95 to 100 scheduled block hours per month so earn BEFORE tax around 7100 Euros per month. If you have less than 500 hours on JAR25 aircraft you'd earn around 5200 euros per month before tax.
I have a friend at Stansted who earns around two thirds of these figures because he's not rostered for anything like as many hours per month (ie he's flying 60 to 70 hours per month). You seem to work more at smaller bases such as Prestwick, Bristol, Luton etc.
If you're flying a lot, the money is great but as others have mentioned, if you go on annual leave or are off sick you get nothing.
Please, no PMs asking about interview advice or below the belt remarks saying how dreadful it is at Ryanair. It's not great but it's okay to live with it for a year or two.
I'm an FO on a Brookfield contract and I'm based in the UK at one base - ie I'm not a floating base pilot going from one base to another each week.
I'm flying around 95 to 100 scheduled block hours per month so earn BEFORE tax around 7100 Euros per month. If you have less than 500 hours on JAR25 aircraft you'd earn around 5200 euros per month before tax.
I have a friend at Stansted who earns around two thirds of these figures because he's not rostered for anything like as many hours per month (ie he's flying 60 to 70 hours per month). You seem to work more at smaller bases such as Prestwick, Bristol, Luton etc.
If you're flying a lot, the money is great but as others have mentioned, if you go on annual leave or are off sick you get nothing.
Please, no PMs asking about interview advice or below the belt remarks saying how dreadful it is at Ryanair. It's not great but it's okay to live with it for a year or two.
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You seem to work more at smaller bases such as Prestwick, Bristol, Luton etc.
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Some usefull information come out of this now, Thanks
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From what I hear people are right that they fly your ass off during line training, but thats not because your cheap, thats to finish your line training!
if you flew less you could be 4months on the €1000 pay,, but instead you are a little over 2months then onto Brookfield contracts now. not the best but better than spending forever on line training pay.
Ok, so say I only do 60 Hours in a month = €3000 before tax or £2350. take of Tax and NI down to £1700, and takes me about 7months to get over the 500 hour pay increase
I am really going to be annoyed that I earnt £1700 for less than a year getting F/O Experiance on a 738 that I am not bonded to for 5years, or would I prefer to sit on pprune moaning that there are no decent jobs or have been unfortunate to be in a holding pool for over a year letting ratings expire!!!!
Thanks for the info guys, I think ill take the 737 time over earning less than that as a Manager for McDonnalds.
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From what I hear people are right that they fly your ass off during line training, but thats not because your cheap, thats to finish your line training!
if you flew less you could be 4months on the €1000 pay,, but instead you are a little over 2months then onto Brookfield contracts now. not the best but better than spending forever on line training pay.
Ok, so say I only do 60 Hours in a month = €3000 before tax or £2350. take of Tax and NI down to £1700, and takes me about 7months to get over the 500 hour pay increase
I am really going to be annoyed that I earnt £1700 for less than a year getting F/O Experiance on a 738 that I am not bonded to for 5years, or would I prefer to sit on pprune moaning that there are no decent jobs or have been unfortunate to be in a holding pool for over a year letting ratings expire!!!!
Thanks for the info guys, I think ill take the 737 time over earning less than that as a Manager for McDonnalds.
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VirginPilot will be the guy down the pub telling you how he knows it all. And that he WILL be a Captain in 2 years and that he is the best aviator ever.
In fact, let´s not worry about giving him advice. He seems to know it all already.
In fact, I wish I knew what he knows. I would be so much better than I am.
In fact there´s stuff that he already knows that I will never know. He´s the best. Ever.
Wally.
In fact, let´s not worry about giving him advice. He seems to know it all already.
In fact, I wish I knew what he knows. I would be so much better than I am.
In fact there´s stuff that he already knows that I will never know. He´s the best. Ever.
Wally.
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lol,, well I see it did not take long for an ear bashing on PPrune after just asking for some information, I said thanks to the guys that posted what I was and again thanks very much for having half a brain and taking the time to answer
as to the last couple of posters and others like you, what the f is your problem, guys like you not only give pilots a bad name but people in general, I am so sorry that myself and other people on here have to put up with people like you.
why do you feel the need to verbally abuse people on a forum, do you not have anything else in your life but to sit and think of witty one liners to post on here to feel superior? I on the other hand dont think I am the best pilot and will be captain in 2years and all the other sh-t, I just cant belive that someone would take the time to post that on a forum! I must be right somewhere along the lines that you really are no where in aviation and probably never will be so feel the need to be Mr Negative on here and pull down other peoples hopes and dreams. you must have got the wrong idea of me from my posts in that you belive I think I own this thread, I realise its an open forum and welcome that, but there are tons of threads on here for people to go bashing who ever and what ever company they like so why just delibretly come on a post that asked 1 simple question and have a slagging match? go play in Jet Blast or somewhere else.
I have the info I was after now so thanks very much and I will no retire this post before it gets out of hand due to certain individuals.
Thanks again
as to the last couple of posters and others like you, what the f is your problem, guys like you not only give pilots a bad name but people in general, I am so sorry that myself and other people on here have to put up with people like you.
why do you feel the need to verbally abuse people on a forum, do you not have anything else in your life but to sit and think of witty one liners to post on here to feel superior? I on the other hand dont think I am the best pilot and will be captain in 2years and all the other sh-t, I just cant belive that someone would take the time to post that on a forum! I must be right somewhere along the lines that you really are no where in aviation and probably never will be so feel the need to be Mr Negative on here and pull down other peoples hopes and dreams. you must have got the wrong idea of me from my posts in that you belive I think I own this thread, I realise its an open forum and welcome that, but there are tons of threads on here for people to go bashing who ever and what ever company they like so why just delibretly come on a post that asked 1 simple question and have a slagging match? go play in Jet Blast or somewhere else.
I have the info I was after now so thanks very much and I will no retire this post before it gets out of hand due to certain individuals.
Thanks again
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Virgin, the only other financial point to add is that on Brookfield you will be expected, even with a fixed base, to commit up to 20% of your flying year at other bases to cover holidays, sickness, demand etc. When you are away from home base you are paid an additional 20 euro per sched block hour. On most occasions this will be of financial benefit to you. During my last stint at another UK base, on a 39 hour flying week, the additional 780 euros against the total travel and accomodation costs of £155.00, was well worth it. But please note this is a particularly good example.
Also you are only contracted for 11 months of the year plus an additional two weeks leave.
What continues to baffle my simple brain is the number of people on here who have respectively invested in their own businesses, (self funded training) knowingly, in a highly competitive, increasingly lo-cost market and then expect instant high profits (big wages). Perhaps many dont actually view this as their own business venture, rather foolish when you have thrown 50k+ into the industry!!!
Well done on researching the facts and figures.
At thirty plus you could well be looking in the right direction for your circs.
Guys in their early twenties have plenty of time to sit around, moan, miss the boat and wait for the next recruitment boom in 7-8 yrs time.
Good luck.
Also you are only contracted for 11 months of the year plus an additional two weeks leave.
What continues to baffle my simple brain is the number of people on here who have respectively invested in their own businesses, (self funded training) knowingly, in a highly competitive, increasingly lo-cost market and then expect instant high profits (big wages). Perhaps many dont actually view this as their own business venture, rather foolish when you have thrown 50k+ into the industry!!!
Well done on researching the facts and figures.
At thirty plus you could well be looking in the right direction for your circs.
Guys in their early twenties have plenty of time to sit around, moan, miss the boat and wait for the next recruitment boom in 7-8 yrs time.
Good luck.
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Contract template
Hi,
I am investigating and trying to understand what will be my pay in RYN so if someone have contract template it will be nice to read it.
At the moment I have 1100TT and 850 hours on ATR42 (ice machine)
I would like to speak with some RYN F/O about their experience. I am ready to work max hours and will try to get some base like Rome or Pisa.
Thanks,
Mario
I am investigating and trying to understand what will be my pay in RYN so if someone have contract template it will be nice to read it.
At the moment I have 1100TT and 850 hours on ATR42 (ice machine)
I would like to speak with some RYN F/O about their experience. I am ready to work max hours and will try to get some base like Rome or Pisa.
Thanks,
Mario
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Brookfield pay is 'per scheduled block hour' i.e. not the actual flight time nor your time at work. Its the individual times the company schedule for the sectors, off block to on block. Usually you will be back at base with a few minutes to spare and enough time to complete the shutdown and paperwork.
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Cloud Bunny and Flying Clara - what I said is based on personal experience. When I was at Luton I flew 98 hours in my first month and 75 in my second month, as a based pilot. Maybe others are not so lucky but that's what I did.
Yes, I am now flying 95 to 100 hours a month, every month (I'm not just quoting my best months). Friends in Girona and Pisa are flying the same amounts. Of course this means you would get to your 900 hours in 9 months but you have to take annual leave into account some months, the odd week or so here and there in the sim doing recurrent training, LPC/OPC and things like VNAV training etc and on top of that under the Broofield contract you have to nominate one calendar month in which you do not work - ie you don't get paid at all - so more or less I'll do 900 hours in about 11 to 12 months.
I'm not saying this is good or bad - just putting down my own experiences so others can read them.
Yes, I am now flying 95 to 100 hours a month, every month (I'm not just quoting my best months). Friends in Girona and Pisa are flying the same amounts. Of course this means you would get to your 900 hours in 9 months but you have to take annual leave into account some months, the odd week or so here and there in the sim doing recurrent training, LPC/OPC and things like VNAV training etc and on top of that under the Broofield contract you have to nominate one calendar month in which you do not work - ie you don't get paid at all - so more or less I'll do 900 hours in about 11 to 12 months.
I'm not saying this is good or bad - just putting down my own experiences so others can read them.
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SkyFlyer737,
I am interested in RYN, I have 850 on ATR turboprop, I will need to get TR for 737, do you know am I paying TR costs directly to SAS or it is agreed with Ryanair?
Another question is about pay. I have 1100TT and 850on ATR type, am I considered to be in a group above 500 hours on JAR-25 aircraft or not? (as I do not have 737 TR).
I am interested in RYN, I have 850 on ATR turboprop, I will need to get TR for 737, do you know am I paying TR costs directly to SAS or it is agreed with Ryanair?
Another question is about pay. I have 1100TT and 850on ATR type, am I considered to be in a group above 500 hours on JAR-25 aircraft or not? (as I do not have 737 TR).
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You pay the training organisation in their currency for your training in advance. you also pay for all other expenses ie accomodation etc. would recommend if you are really that keen on ryan air
that you use a currency firm e.g, currencies direct who can save you a lot of money on the transfer. good luck
that you use a currency firm e.g, currencies direct who can save you a lot of money on the transfer. good luck
