EasyJet Holding Pool
Joined: Jan 2002
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From: UK
Regarding holiday airline crews temping for Easy, i think this is rubbish as once again the companys intentions are stated on our balpa newsletter.
Joined: Dec 2002
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From: UK
I thought the two options had been put out to ballot - why do postings in this thread seem to have decided on the outcome already?
The ballot paper also doesn't allow you to reject both options does it or have I missed something?
On another EZY thread a posting suggests that thousands of American pilots swap from left to right seats every Sept.
The ballot paper also doesn't allow you to reject both options does it or have I missed something?
On another EZY thread a posting suggests that thousands of American pilots swap from left to right seats every Sept.
Joined: Dec 2006
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From: Glasgow
Originally Posted by World of Tweed
Apologies for repeating if already stated but there is a VERY strong rumor that a very large Holiday Airline will be sending Temps to EZ for the forthcoming year.
Duration Unknown - though likely no more that 9 months due parent carriers requirement.
Fleet Unknown - though likely the NG as airline in question has surplus on fleet.
Deal is currently being negotiated or release to parent company pilots within 3weeks.
Duration Unknown - though likely no more that 9 months due parent carriers requirement.
Fleet Unknown - though likely the NG as airline in question has surplus on fleet.
Deal is currently being negotiated or release to parent company pilots within 3weeks.
L Met
Joined: Jul 2006
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From: Around the block
The company has now twice and 2 years in a row promised BALPA not to take in any more contract pilots.
And its happening again. Sweet.
Worthless and unacceptable.
Paycuts for all of us and the management goes through with all their bonus.
This is totally rubbish.
And its happening again. Sweet.
Worthless and unacceptable.
Paycuts for all of us and the management goes through with all their bonus.
This is totally rubbish.
Joined: Mar 2005
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From: uk
You guys amaze me sometimes. Would you rather accept what appears to be a poor deal for the pilots yes still have jobs in years to come or would you push for the deal you see as correct in your eyes and all be on the dole queue sooner than you thought? I know which option I would go for......have a word with an ex Excel pilot who is now probably in some far flung country (if he can get another job) trying to earn a crust. Whatever deal for contract pilots comes out (and it might not) it's got to be better than signing on. Alternatively, get a stronger CC!
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Up high
So how far would you take that argument then. In the West we are obviously massively better off than the vast majority of people on this planet. Does this mean we should all accept working for a bowl of rice. The fact is some companies are going against the wall but others are benefiting from this crisis. Easyjet is among the latter and still making a profit. Management is collecting a massive bonus year on year but we should just hand over the vaseline and be glad that we do not work for Excel, live in Chad or have to walk ten miles a day to collect fresh water? The fact is our concesions go straight into the bonus of our management not to put money on the pilot providence fund.Tell you what, when Easyjet management refuses to collect their multimillion pound bonus I will seriously consider some concessions on our Terms and Conditions. Fair?
Joined: Mar 2005
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From: uk
Management bonuses and high salaries are an area which some agree with and others hate. For my part I don't actually begrudge them the extortionate wages......why? Because as long as they continue to keep a company in profit and me in a job then that's ok with me.
We just have to accept it's a fact of life that some people at the top of companies get paid a boot full of cash each year..that's life. I'd much rather have that than have some no hoper in charge on a minimum wage salary and the company goes t**s up within a few months. Of course you can quote me the banking sector bosses (i.e. paid millions for cocking up a massive organisation), but then you get bad pennies in all walks of life.
We just have to accept it's a fact of life that some people at the top of companies get paid a boot full of cash each year..that's life. I'd much rather have that than have some no hoper in charge on a minimum wage salary and the company goes t**s up within a few months. Of course you can quote me the banking sector bosses (i.e. paid millions for cocking up a massive organisation), but then you get bad pennies in all walks of life.
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Up high
I don´t begrudge large bonuses when they are due either. What I do begrudge is been asked to give up elements of my contracted benefits so someone else can get a massive bonus.
But what happened to your argument of tighten your belt so you don´t end up unemployed, etc Does that not apply to managers then?
But what happened to your argument of tighten your belt so you don´t end up unemployed, etc Does that not apply to managers then?
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: Grrrr
Bad news for those of you in the hold pool waiting for easyJet employment. Update from the company as per today:
There is now no planned permanent recruitment for summer 2009 and the FOs needed will come from CTC flexi programme.
Recruitment for the hold pool has ceased as well.
Sorry.
There is now no planned permanent recruitment for summer 2009 and the FOs needed will come from CTC flexi programme.
Recruitment for the hold pool has ceased as well.
Sorry.
Joined: Mar 2005
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From: uk
Like it or loathe it, managers tend not to be considered as employees in the same context as us ordinary chaps. They'll do their job and get paid their massive salaries and then either get sacked or move onto another company.
Don't get me wrong I don't like the management pay situation anymore than u do, I just put up with it and accept it as long as they are doing a good job. I don't work for your company so I really can't comment and what might be imposed on you all.
But of E & C I do agree with you and can empathise with your situation
Don't get me wrong I don't like the management pay situation anymore than u do, I just put up with it and accept it as long as they are doing a good job. I don't work for your company so I really can't comment and what might be imposed on you all.
But of E & C I do agree with you and can empathise with your situation
Joined: Jun 2001
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From: UK
unsubstantiated rumour alert!
I have heard that some of the M/A 60 odd that were made redundant, actually received their redundancy package and were then awarded / promoted to a new position. In other words like the pilot sacrifices, the Co. are not being wholly truthful with the numbers. It's spin, yes people were made redundant, however it would appear that the role was deleted. In accordance with UK employment law however, they were offered a similar opportunity. Thus the net change is not 60 odd. These management traits are demonstrated by what E+C highlights. A manager/s will get a bonus based on "Cost savings achieved in pilot group". Not saying measures are not required, but we need to be mindful of how pilot T+C's changes feather the nest for the management.
FPC
FPC
Joined: Oct 2007
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From: Salford Lads Club
Bit of frustration now, why the hell are/were Ezy running recruitment sessions for TRSS at least up until late last year when there is no need for those guys! I dont mean this to read like I doubt what ReallyAnnoyed has said, far from it, I'm sure that's the truth of the matter.
Just frustrated. I guess its them hedging their bets I suppose.
Just frustrated. I guess its them hedging their bets I suppose.
Joined: Apr 2002
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From: Put out to graze
At a training meeting some weeks ago there was talk of 170 F/O's for summer 09, and that may of doubled if the pairings/roster optimizer didn't work.
Seems an awfully efficient system if it saves that many pilots from being recruited. Lets hope they are not over ambitious with the systems capabilities.
So yes, I think they were hedging their bets.
Seems an awfully efficient system if it saves that many pilots from being recruited. Lets hope they are not over ambitious with the systems capabilities.
So yes, I think they were hedging their bets.
