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Are they really? In situations like this, where the solution is an obvious if expensive one. Then a management team would be opening themselves up massively if they acknowledge a problem and then don't do everything in their power to solve it as fast as possible.......
Let's put it this way, you wouldn't even need a good lawyer to get a huge payout if you had been badly affected by a fumes event in this case. You'd need to prove that it was the cause of any health issues, but again even Lionel Hutz could do that.
So how is not fixing this problem going to help the company? You constantly state that there isn't a "big" problem, but I will ask you what you think is. Do a certain number of your colleagues need to be hospitalised per year? Is it a fallacy until you find yourself with breathing problems or psychological issues after years of exposure to the nasties that have been proven to come out of these engines? Define when something like this becomes "serious".
You may not care about your own health, but others do care about theirs.
Fumes are the big issue that could seriously damage this whole industry if not tackled sensibly and so far most management teams seem to have put their collective fingers in their ears and are running around shouting "La La La I'm not listening" whilst hoping no-one notices it.
Yep, that'll fix it.........
Let's put it this way, you wouldn't even need a good lawyer to get a huge payout if you had been badly affected by a fumes event in this case. You'd need to prove that it was the cause of any health issues, but again even Lionel Hutz could do that.
So how is not fixing this problem going to help the company? You constantly state that there isn't a "big" problem, but I will ask you what you think is. Do a certain number of your colleagues need to be hospitalised per year? Is it a fallacy until you find yourself with breathing problems or psychological issues after years of exposure to the nasties that have been proven to come out of these engines? Define when something like this becomes "serious".
You may not care about your own health, but others do care about theirs.
Fumes are the big issue that could seriously damage this whole industry if not tackled sensibly and so far most management teams seem to have put their collective fingers in their ears and are running around shouting "La La La I'm not listening" whilst hoping no-one notices it.
Yep, that'll fix it.........
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Management keeps saying they are working hard to fix the problem but there are two limitations to this working hard!
1 its not allowed to cost any money
2 its not allowed to cost any sectors
Neil
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where are the sniffer units? they should have been placed onboard in april!
1 its not allowed to cost any money
2 its not allowed to cost any sectors
Neil
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where are the sniffer units? they should have been placed onboard in april!
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Not to mention Boeing, and more importantly, Rolls Royce´s complicity in all of this. These engines are now over 25 years old and they are not a whole lot better than the day they were built, design-wise, and a whole lot worse than when they were built due to wear and tear. While not excusing DHL for their cavalier approach to the issue re: the oil overfillings and allowing the situation to develop whereby spares and maintenance have been allowed to dip to the current farce, is it not largely the responsibility of the manufacturer to ensure the product was properly built in the first place?
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I very much doubt the AOC would be suspended, as there isn't anything to base that decision on. Poisoning your crews is not a matter the CAA would want to go near. If the paperwork was hooky, then they'd be interested, but this. I don't think so.
The last company to have its AOC suspended was Emerald and that took years of blatant breaches before the FOI actually did something. Unless of course after that debacle the FOI have finally got some teeth!
The last company to have its AOC suspended was Emerald and that took years of blatant breaches before the FOI actually did something. Unless of course after that debacle the FOI have finally got some teeth!
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Finally, the winers are silencted!
I kept saying it was hysteria and now it's all quiet because its petered out.
Many of the drama queens gone and real pilots anxcius to do a good days (nights
) work are happy to have there jobs.
QED
I kept saying it was hysteria and now it's all quiet because its petered out.
Many of the drama queens gone and real pilots anxcius to do a good days (nights
) work are happy to have there jobs.QED
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SQP1
Well done for bringing the thread back to the top!
Who did win, one spelling mistake and it could be those that won or those that whinge.........................................
I think it best you let this thread die off myself.
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Who did win, one spelling mistake and it could be those that won or those that whinge.........................................
I think it best you let this thread die off myself.
Bored
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SQP1,
For your Interest.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...4/nbook124.xml
And also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW6lx6h6XAQ
For your Interest.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...4/nbook124.xml
And also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW6lx6h6XAQ
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RAFAT,
They can still be held accountable.
Especially MW & JC. In 2000 the CAA were on the verge of grounding the whole of the UK's 146 fleets after some serious fume events, with the aforementioned 2 clowns only paying lip service to their recommendations.
Our crews are still ending up in hospital on a regular basis and still nothing is being done. Flybe are just merely keeping their fingers crossed that there is not a fatality whilst they phase out the 146 and replace them (Slowly) with the Jungle Jet.
I would not like to be down in INN or CMF during an Event that's for sure. The luck will run out one day.
They can still be held accountable.
Especially MW & JC. In 2000 the CAA were on the verge of grounding the whole of the UK's 146 fleets after some serious fume events, with the aforementioned 2 clowns only paying lip service to their recommendations.
Our crews are still ending up in hospital on a regular basis and still nothing is being done. Flybe are just merely keeping their fingers crossed that there is not a fatality whilst they phase out the 146 and replace them (Slowly) with the Jungle Jet.
I would not like to be down in INN or CMF during an Event that's for sure. The luck will run out one day.
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BOREDCOUNTER.
All you have are spelling corections. NO SUBSTANCE!
I'll do believe you want me to drop it, though!
Time has proven me correct and there are plenty coming to replace the WHINERS!
All you have are spelling corections. NO SUBSTANCE!
I'll do believe you want me to drop it, though!
Time has proven me correct and there are plenty coming to replace the WHINERS!
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I love this thread it keps going and going!
Got a Aircraft fumes meeting this week in which our "non exsisting" problem wil be discussed.
Please keep replying SQP1 as i would like to keep this thread on top.
Neil
Got a Aircraft fumes meeting this week in which our "non exsisting" problem wil be discussed.
Please keep replying SQP1 as i would like to keep this thread on top.
Neil
