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Never mind 'Leonardo', I hear that 'Hutcho' has turned down BA RHS 747 + guaranteed management job for the dee-eff-ohship at Silverjet. Remarkable from both the individual and the corporate perspective. Mind you, I'd love to know how his redundancy package compared with a line pilot!
Oh, and BTW (customer report):
In early June ’07 I was scheduled to on Silverjet from EWR to LTN and return a few days later. On the morning of my outbound flight I went to Silverjet's website to check my flight’s status - it said cancelled due to mechanical problem. I immediately called Silverjet and the agent informed me that she would call me back within a half hour. After 45 minutes with no call I called Silverjet again. The agent informed me that she could get me an economy class seat on a Virgin flight a few hours after Silverjet's scheduled departure. I told her that wouldn't do - I wanted a business class seat since that is what I paid for, and I needed an earlier flight or else I would miss my first meeting in London. The Silverjet agent told me that the Virgin economy class seat on the flight she offered me was all she could do for me - effectively telling me take it or leave it. I left it. I cancelled my Silverjet ticket and got a full refund. I then booked a last minute ticket on BA. I found Silverjet's "mechanical problems" excuse suspect. A few days before the flight I logged in to change my seat and noted the flight was only one quarter full. Though I don't know, I'm inclined to believe that when flights are not sufficiently full and it is uneconomic for it to operate the flight, Silverjet cancels the flight, tells customers it is for mechanical reasons and offers them an economy class seat on another airline. I will not give Silverjet another chance. Not only did I not appreciate being left in the lurch by Silverjet, I was left with the very unpleasant feeling that I'd been scammed.
'Hutcho' will feel at home here.......
Oh, and BTW (customer report):
In early June ’07 I was scheduled to on Silverjet from EWR to LTN and return a few days later. On the morning of my outbound flight I went to Silverjet's website to check my flight’s status - it said cancelled due to mechanical problem. I immediately called Silverjet and the agent informed me that she would call me back within a half hour. After 45 minutes with no call I called Silverjet again. The agent informed me that she could get me an economy class seat on a Virgin flight a few hours after Silverjet's scheduled departure. I told her that wouldn't do - I wanted a business class seat since that is what I paid for, and I needed an earlier flight or else I would miss my first meeting in London. The Silverjet agent told me that the Virgin economy class seat on the flight she offered me was all she could do for me - effectively telling me take it or leave it. I left it. I cancelled my Silverjet ticket and got a full refund. I then booked a last minute ticket on BA. I found Silverjet's "mechanical problems" excuse suspect. A few days before the flight I logged in to change my seat and noted the flight was only one quarter full. Though I don't know, I'm inclined to believe that when flights are not sufficiently full and it is uneconomic for it to operate the flight, Silverjet cancels the flight, tells customers it is for mechanical reasons and offers them an economy class seat on another airline. I will not give Silverjet another chance. Not only did I not appreciate being left in the lurch by Silverjet, I was left with the very unpleasant feeling that I'd been scammed.
'Hutcho' will feel at home here.......
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If you are correct about PH, perhaps he won't be out of the BA 'fold' for very long!!
Watch this space for the next BA franchise??
Purely hypothetical of course.
If you are correct about PH, perhaps he won't be out of the BA 'fold' for very long!!
Watch this space for the next BA franchise??
Purely hypothetical of course.
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Further thoughts re Bacon and Flybe
In the past,any Budget InterEuropean Airline taken over or part taken over by BA European Div,makes for an Ideal Direct Entry Command on the RJ85 or 100,,or if you like the 195,by Retired @55 Mainline Captains on low Salaries,since they have already their full Final salary BA Pension.Any one thought of that before.In a past life we called them KLINGONS,and watched for them off the starboard bow.In spite of management denials,they soon became full TRI/TRE or the then equivalent,and installed the BA BxxlSxxt.It meant poor SFOs had even more time to wait,and reduced LH seaters to even more waiting for proper jet salaries.,and Training Captains had to put up with it.With regard to Flybe,you only have to look at who is running it to find a very ruthless individual.His history at his previous Airline left a lot to be desired,when Jets were put into Leeds;the pax figures were adjusted and all seats were found to be full when they were not,and surprise, Jersey European got the business.We lost the Jets at Leeds, and then the Exeter Base and then ALL the Channel Island business.Certain complicit management left to join him,and now Flybe is the result.I would beware of that as well,for the future.
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Well its not very often I agree with The Little Prince, however this time he's hit the nail squarely on the head. Did forget one bit though. CP can't fly worth a ****. Anyone remember the Barbie Jet incident when he got his astronauts wings?
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CityFlyer scheme at FTE
Does anyone here have any inside info about how many places will be available on the latest FTE scheme?
Also, to anyone who has been through the selection in the past, what is involved in the final stage interview? Are there any group exercises etc?
Thanks for any pointers
Also, to anyone who has been through the selection in the past, what is involved in the final stage interview? Are there any group exercises etc?
Thanks for any pointers
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RJ85 on the way
The much awaited RJ85 are now due Q1/2008
Aircraft are Blue1's OH-SAH and OH-SAI. Aircraft returning to Bae and then to be leased to BACF
Also new advertising campaign to start to promote LCY to leisure aswell as business pax
Aircraft are Blue1's OH-SAH and OH-SAI. Aircraft returning to Bae and then to be leased to BACF
Also new advertising campaign to start to promote LCY to leisure aswell as business pax
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Just found this thread after a while away - It was dire then and it is clearly dire now- why oh why does BA not put this sad operation out of its misery? is it some sort of gentleman's club or a
masons lodge?
CP , the stuffy PH and that silly DD should be made at last to walk the plank!
AA xx
Little Prince - maybe we could celebrate in the pub with a small sherry afterwards?
masons lodge?
CP , the stuffy PH and that silly DD should be made at last to walk the plank!
AA xx
Little Prince - maybe we could celebrate in the pub with a small sherry afterwards?
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In order to centralise all the BA Cityflyer info, I'll make a small summary of the latest developments. Please post further replies concerning the company in this thread, whenever possible.
What I'd like to add.
Aircraft wise:
- 2 x RJ85 from Blue1. 1st one will arrive in February, second one in June of 2008. My guess is theyll be used on the longer runs óut of LCY where our RJ100's are more restricted. (MAD/WAW)
- 2 RJ100's, (AR/AS) will remain in the fleet bringing the total number or a/c to 12.(includes the 2 RJ85's)
Destinations:
- BACF from LCY will drop Milan and raise ZRH from 4 to 5 daily. Furthermore there will be 4 new destinations added to the network from LCY. Thus going from 7 to 10 destinations. Being;
LCY - AMS, from 6th may 2008 4x daily (+ KLM 6x daily and VLM 12x daily)
LCY - WAW, from 6th may 2008 daily
LCY - BCN, from 6th may 2008 daily
LCY - NCE, from 6th march daily
Release here: http://www.flightline.co.uk/travelne...es-new-routes/
-AMS and ZRH are gonna be nightstops.
Crew:
- Flightcrew based in EDI and GLA. (pilots from GLA area are given choice to operate flights out of GLA, incl the nightstops, as their preference)
- Cabincrew base also in LCY
- Still cabin and flightdeck training in progress. Flightdeck wise I think the next class will start in Jan 2008. More info is welcome...
- Recruitment lately? Anyone?
Pay/contract/bond wise:
- I haven't got a clue of what's going on right now. So if anyone can fill us in, please do so. (keep it constructive pls, no bashing
)
Future:
- Well, who knows. The aircraft are getting older. Don't think we'll ever merge fully into BA mainline as I don't think BA (unions) will allow our aircraft (100+ seats) to be base in London area, same with our crew force. My thought is that BACF will base the 2 RJ85's in LCY once there's space available. The're below 100 seats so mainline can't refuse that. (right?!)
- Expansion is a welcome sight and a promising note of how BA mainline sees BA Citflyer.
- New/improved catering concept on domestic and international flights offered in Club and Traveller. Together with the cabin enhancements brought in from BA mainline.
- Lot's of rumors about new aircraft to replace the current RJ's. But that's life and nobody knows anything constructive. So keep speculating...
If I forgot anything, or you disagree, then feel free to respond. But as said before, keep it constrcutive and
free.
What I'd like to add.
Aircraft wise:
- 2 x RJ85 from Blue1. 1st one will arrive in February, second one in June of 2008. My guess is theyll be used on the longer runs óut of LCY where our RJ100's are more restricted. (MAD/WAW)
- 2 RJ100's, (AR/AS) will remain in the fleet bringing the total number or a/c to 12.(includes the 2 RJ85's)
Destinations:
- BACF from LCY will drop Milan and raise ZRH from 4 to 5 daily. Furthermore there will be 4 new destinations added to the network from LCY. Thus going from 7 to 10 destinations. Being;
LCY - AMS, from 6th may 2008 4x daily (+ KLM 6x daily and VLM 12x daily)
LCY - WAW, from 6th may 2008 daily
LCY - BCN, from 6th may 2008 daily
LCY - NCE, from 6th march daily
Release here: http://www.flightline.co.uk/travelne...es-new-routes/
-AMS and ZRH are gonna be nightstops.
Crew:
- Flightcrew based in EDI and GLA. (pilots from GLA area are given choice to operate flights out of GLA, incl the nightstops, as their preference)
- Cabincrew base also in LCY
- Still cabin and flightdeck training in progress. Flightdeck wise I think the next class will start in Jan 2008. More info is welcome...
- Recruitment lately? Anyone?
Pay/contract/bond wise:
- I haven't got a clue of what's going on right now. So if anyone can fill us in, please do so. (keep it constructive pls, no bashing
)Future:
- Well, who knows. The aircraft are getting older. Don't think we'll ever merge fully into BA mainline as I don't think BA (unions) will allow our aircraft (100+ seats) to be base in London area, same with our crew force. My thought is that BACF will base the 2 RJ85's in LCY once there's space available. The're below 100 seats so mainline can't refuse that. (right?!)
- Expansion is a welcome sight and a promising note of how BA mainline sees BA Citflyer.
- New/improved catering concept on domestic and international flights offered in Club and Traveller. Together with the cabin enhancements brought in from BA mainline.
- Lot's of rumors about new aircraft to replace the current RJ's. But that's life and nobody knows anything constructive. So keep speculating...
If I forgot anything, or you disagree, then feel free to respond. But as said before, keep it constrcutive and
free.
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He FlatBroke,
We are still reqruiting F/O's at the moment as far as I'm aware. We currently have more f/o's than captains but the numbers are getting more equal as we speak. There are a couple of new f/o classes starting next year for sure.
The future looks bright. BA's investing and is positively involved, we're expanding and things like the Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games and LCY expanding surely help. The routes are doing well also.
Good luck with the applying!
We are still reqruiting F/O's at the moment as far as I'm aware. We currently have more f/o's than captains but the numbers are getting more equal as we speak. There are a couple of new f/o classes starting next year for sure.
The future looks bright. BA's investing and is positively involved, we're expanding and things like the Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games and LCY expanding surely help. The routes are doing well also.
Good luck with the applying!
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I think that all the flightcrew are based in EDI. They can ,If their trip starts with a positioning or operating sector out of GLA, start there.I believe crewing will allow people that, but officially everyone is still in EDI to the best of my knowledge.
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Thanks for the info. Im based within 45 mins of both EDI and GLW so just wondering if theyre interested in local guys at all. I've got my fATPL(modular) but a little low on hours(just short of 400)
